I've always thought PETA was a little overzealous in thier ways. But I never believed they were the nutjobs some made them out to be....until now. Read this article, it's sickening what they will do to push thier philisophy onto others.

http://news.bostonherald.com//localRegional/localRegional.bg?articleid=593

Doesn't sound to bad yet?? Well then take a look at the flier they'll be handing out to little kids.

http://www.peta.org/

If someone tried to hand this to one of my kids, they'd see some real life violence. To the point it would take a surgeon to get by leg out of thier bumm. This is sick.

MTD

PETA has "been" nuts for years. This "comic" just goes to show what people are willing to do to further thier cause. How a group or individual can justify traumatizing children in the name of saving animals is beyond me. Lets hope they get plenty of media coverage.

M.

Yup! I don't know if they will be doing anything down here in Tampa, but I'm trying to start a local e-mail campaign. AS a lover of the constitution, I believe they have right to support what-ever cause they like, but this is really going to far. If anyone wants their say you can e-mail them at info@peta.org . They claim to read every e-mail, so if enough parents scream and holler.....

MTD

If you are a "lover of the constitution as you say then why should this bother you? I mean I have gotten flyers from neo-nazis advocating the slaughter of Jews and African Americans and although I certainly don't agree with them their odious views are protected speech. It's funny how people support free speech as long as they agree with what's being said.

I don't recall ever hearing of a PETA group in my part of the world....Cause where I live road kill could be dinner. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> No joke my H hit a squirrel with his truck, stopped and picked it up, skinned it and put it in the freezer. YES!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> He is an avid hunter, and NO!!!!!!!!!!! I don't eat most of what he kills, but he does.

We live on what we trap, catch, raise and kill. If you don't eat it you don't kill it. But beware we also wear what we can. Aligators are in bountiful supply here and a major problem in bayous. Mink is a rodant that destroys crops and water supply lines. Fox are preditors and extrememly vicious. Nuirtra is a HUGE RAT with large teeth. They destroy everything. They have been known to kill livestock and bite hard enough to break bones and they sever fingers etc.

In the deap south if you're not careful you are killed, eaten, skinned and worn. Animals provide a function at our farm or they don't stay around. Our cats eat mice, beef and lamb for the nurishment of our bodies and the dog is there to scare off the coyotes. Yes, coyotes in packs large enough to kill all our live stock and small children if you wonder off in the dark. I have no sentiment for PETA, when their views are tainted from aparent pampered lives. I don't believe animals should be abuse or mistreated. But I do know where to draw the line.

Get real. This was too funny to me.

TMD, your missing the point. You want your kids to see this? You want someone to tell your kid that mommy is skinning bunnies in the kitchen? Demonstrating and holding signs is one thing, but they ARE TARGETING KIDS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!! You have to be a complete idiot for thinking this is in any way acceptable. And yes I do love the constitution. It provides us the right to peacefully assemble, SO LONG AS IT DOES NOT INFRINGE UPON THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS. I have a right to protect my kids from this type of traumatizing propoganda.

MTD

Gee now I am a complete idiot because I don't agree with you LOL! You just proved my point yep free speech is okay as long as you agree with what' being said.

Nobody said you don't have the right to protect your children. GAG You have the right to protect your children and they have their right to free speech. You see it works both way you only want things your way.

I don't feel that protecting children trumps free speech that's my view. I don't belong to PETA either by the way.

YOu'll find as you grow up that there are going to be people that don't agree with you hard to believe but true, so it's something you need to get used too. Also calling people names who don't agree with you; very immature you might want to lose that habit if you want to be a part of the adult world.

<small>[ December 19, 2003, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: TMD ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> If anyone wants their say you can e-mail them at info@peta.org . They claim to read every e-mail, so if enough parents scream and holler..... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">They'd love that. They love attention, even the negative kind. That's why they do this ridiculous stuff.

I forgot to add in the original post that I object to the subject line. It implies that PETA was sane at some previous time. I've been told by former members in Norfolk that this group poisons feral cat colonies and euthanizes every pit bull that goes into their shelter. I guess they're mostly for the rights of vegetarian animals.

<small>[ December 19, 2003, 08:12 PM: Message edited by: Dobie ]</small>

TMD, I take it you don't have any kids. So what you are saying is, and I'm just paraphrasing from what you've said, is that if you did have kids, and someone gave this to one of your kids, you wouldn't be upset, right? People disagreeing with me is fine. It's great in fact. It's part of what makes America great and in fact I enjoy a good debate with someone who doesn't agree with me. You appearently just don't get it. To give small children this sort of graphic material that contains cruel lies about their own mothers is worse than despicable, In fact, I'd say that giving these fliers to children is so beyond the pale that I would be surprised if it DIDN'T lead to fistfights. All people of conscience should condemn this sort of behavior. If they have a point to make, they do it like every body else. They can hold up signs, and go to the ballot boxes.

very immature you might want to lose that habit if you want to be a part of the adult world.

Hello pot, this is the kettle, you're black....

You say I only want things my way, and that protecting my children does not trump free speech. Obviously you are not looking at the facts. They are not just practicing free speach, they are not even simply cramming their views down our throats. They are cramming thier views down OUR CHILDREN'S THROATS!!! And yes, as a parent protecting my children trumps everything.

MTD

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by madly_truly_deeply:
<strong> Yup! I don't know if they will be doing anything down here in Tampa, but I'm trying to start a local e-mail campaign. AS a lover of the constitution, I believe they have right to support what-ever cause they like, but this is really going to far. If anyone wants their say you can e-mail them at info@peta.org . They claim to read every e-mail, so if enough parents scream and holler.....

MTD </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hhaha... hey if you want help with the email campaign let me know. I sent the link to "Schnitt" a couple days ago... wonder if he did anything with it.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by TMD:
<strong> Gee now I am a complete idiot because I don't agree with you LOL! You just proved my point yep free speech is okay as long as you agree with what' being said.

Nobody said you don't have the right to protect your children. GAG You have the right to protect your children and they have their right to free speech. You see it works both way you only want things your way.

I don't feel that protecting children trumps free speech that's my view. I don't belong to PETA either by the way.

YOu'll find as you grow up that there are going to be people that don't agree with you hard to believe but true, so it's something you need to get used too. Also calling people names who don't agree with you; very immature you might want to lose that habit if you want to be a part of the adult world. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Free speech is one thing. It is not about harming children which is exactly what they intend to do, even if they are stupid enough to believe otherwise. Hey, as a matter of fact.. I do not have the right to bust the wrist of the first PETA puke that attempts to hand that "comic" to one of my kids either... but it would happen. My kids come first, not liberally convenient views on free speech.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by TMD:
<strong>

I don't feel that protecting children trumps free speech that's my view. I don't belong to PETA either by the way.

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Say what? And trulymadlydeeply doesn't also have free speech rights? PETA does not have "free speech rights" to indocrinate children with sicko garbage without the parent's permission. Do you think folks can pass out pornography to children too?

TrulyMadlyDeeply can most certainly take steps to stop them from passing out this crap to her children. Free Speech rights only preclude CONGRESS from stopping speech,[unless its personally expedient for Congress, but thats another subject] obviously trulymadlydeeply is not congress.

See, here's the thing TMD. Think about it this way. If this were depicted in a movie, it would be rated R and the kids couldn't see without a parent. If it were in a video game, it would be rated M, and the kids couldn't see it without the parents. If it were described in a song, it would be rated M and the kids couldn't buy it without the parents. Free speech extends to the parents only, because the responsibility falls on the parents protect the kids. Not to mention the flier tells lies about the kids mothers, which is slander, which is illeagal. They want to hand this to adults fine. Distasteful, but fine. Handing it to kids crosses the line, and is NOT protected by free speech.

MTD

BTW, Mortimer, LOL...I sent it to Schnitt also <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
You live in the Tampa area, or are you in an affiliate area?

What in the world is a Schnitt ???? A new breed of Pit Bull?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

I live in Tampa (not for long though, thankfully, I need a little cold once in awhile. I'd even pay for snow!).

Schnitt's a radio show host out of WFLA in St Petersburg FL. He moved in afer Glenn Beck went bigger bigtimeish.