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Yes she is taking me back again......I hope i got all my eggs in one basket.....got note from doctor saying i can't work more then 4 to 6 hrs aday.....she works in a new job making more money.ect....Is there any Ideals for help....

<small>[ February 10, 2005, 07:56 PM: Message edited by: frankd ]</small>

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Maybe you s/b prepared to show the horrors you and Megan have had to experience since the last court appearance. Let them know that you question IF the $$ she is requesting w/b spent in bahalf of the child or for 'other questionable purposes'. Let them know you provided your child with a cell phone which the mother confiscates for who knows what other use......basically let them know you question her intentions.

Be prepared. Write stuff down.

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Yes I do have a copy of the new cell phone bill....and OM used it to call information while Meagan was in school, and there was two other calls made on the 20th to his cell phone.Each for a minute....The only ones I can see.....I will take the phone bills......I can put a lock on phone with a pin #4 digits long...I asked meagan about that and I agree that we will see what other phone bill looks like.......but I will bring it up and show phone bill...

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Um hope you have a lawyer. They'd give you the best advice and know how to save you a buck or two. Kinda late now, but if you start ASAP maybe you can find someone who could at least ask for an extension to review your case.

Would you go into surgery without a doctor? Don't go into a court house with out a lawyer.

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I don't know where Frank lives, but in Ohio, you don't go before a judge, you go before a referee type person that works for the child support enforcment agency, they don't "argue" anything, they look at the facts, and they make a decision.

They don't take into account, I spend this much in rent or any of that stuff....they look at how much the custodial parent makes, how much the non-custodial parent makes, they factor in who pays health insurance and child care and then they make a decision based on those things.

I don't know that a lawyer would help at this particular event. I assume this is a temporary child support hearing, and that when you go to court for the divorce the judge would finalize things <--------Have a lawyer for that...LOL

Frank, did you say b4 that your wife is pregnant? Again, I can only speak for Ohio, but you can't get divorced in Ohio if the woman is pregnant. It is presumed the baby is the husbands, and until a DNA test would prove the paternity, they will not grant the divorce.

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Australia has a national child support agency which sounds a lot like the Ohio one.

If its before an agency I cna only suggest dont ever stretch the truth with your income details with them..... they will be ruthless then...but same goes with your WW .... they hate to be played.

So if you have the various bits of evidence to show affecting $$$ then show it, suspect they wont be interested in the custody side unless it s before a judge.

Good luck

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You are all right......I do have a lawyer and you do go before a ref....they do not want to hear about anything but who makes what andwho has the child....I have meagan 44.1% of the time and WW has Meagan 55.9 % of the time.....I am making less money then last time and WW makes more....They do not take in account of OM's income.........They do take in account the ammount my morgage is, because it is alot.......I have copies of everything I pay out....including the cell phone......I can tell them the reason I got the cell phone....but everything else is for a coustody hearing....I live in Pennsylvania.....

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Frank, how did the hearing go?

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yes we went now I have to pay $610.00 a month instead of $ 299.00...Isn't that nice..I have to pay for the child care........or day care....she had a lawyer there and I did not.......My lawyer stopped by and asked if I need him and I said no...and he agreed....I told him I will use him if I appeal.....guess what I am appealing.....I met a ladie tonight that is single at the laundry mat.....she is 39 and her 16 yr old daughter was the.....We started talking and I was telling my problems and she started telling me hers and we ended up talking for an hour.......she asked me OM's name and I told her .....Her 16 yr old daughter said I know him..........She seen him at a party this fall.....Well when I got home this lady called me and we talked...for 45 more minutes.....Then while we were talking she said " Frank, my daughter told me that she had met OM at a party she went to 4 months ago and he tryed nto have sex with her.....( WW has been with OM for just over a year)Now this lady's daughter knew his age and discribed him to a "T"....this girl is 16........ should I let WW know about this or let her learn on her own.......

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Frank,
Don't talk to your WW about the sexual advance towards the 16 year old. DO talk to your lawyer about it. The girl is only a few years older than your daughter who lives with him 55% of the time.

Your WW will not believe you anyway. Her house of cards will fall soon enough, stay out of the drama.

What is the progress of your divorce proceedings? I am concerned that your WW will deliver the OM's baby while still legally married to you. More problems to follow... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Why did your WW have an attorney and you did not? You cannot afford to allow her to take the lead here, you are getting a bad deal. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

By the way, be very carreful about getting involved with a woman while you are legally married, it won't look good in court.

PLEASE work towards making a permanent end to this toxic relationship with your WW. You need to work towards a new life for yourself and you daughter.

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Frank,

I agree with Girlgardiner all the way.

I wonder how good your lawyer is. I don't know why he let you go in there alone. He should have known better, shouldn't he have?

Find yourself the nastiest, best divorce child custody lawyer you can find. And do what you need to do to get full custody.

It'll be ugly and it will be mean proving her unfit so you can have full custody, but you have no choice. You can't possibly still feel sorry for her, while she continues to threaten your daughter's happiness, safety and security. And to bring another child into her abusive, disgusting sitch is just unbelievable.

Find a way to afford the BEST lawyer and get moving on this.

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Please Frank, for the love of toast...

Never, EVER go anywhere near a courtroom without a lawyer again.

This lesson is at about the same level as "don't drop the soap in a prison shower."

I hope your appeal goes well. I hope you also realize you got off kinda easy. I've heard stories you would not believe. Please just be careful.

As for your daughter... well, obviously you have a predator on your hands. I wish I new what to tell you about that. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> Obviously if you tell your WW, she will side with OM, but if you don't tell her... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

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No I do have a good lawyer....He did show up as he was in the court house, so he stopped by to ask me if I wanted him in there...I said no I would rather have him if I do not like the out come.....Plus I saved $135,00....she paid $150.00 for hers....for what.....They can't do anything it is all up to the mediater...like my lawyer told me if you don't like the out come then I step in.......I called the mediater yesterday and talked to her for 20 minutes....she told me she does not even take into concideration what the lawyers say .....it was a waste of money for the WW....I told her every thing that is going down there with WW and OM.....she told me to be patient....sonner or later OM is going to screw up and CPS will step in and take DD from WW because of the inviorment dwn there...and guess who ends up with DD ......MEEEEEEEEEE.....she said that she is taking what I say as facts because i do have papers proving everything and ww showed no paper work.......I have heard nothing but good about my lawyer........also I heard from there neighbors (OM's ) and they did call the SPCA about the dog that was ran over last week. but the older lady does not want to testifie against OM because she is scared....The SPCA put OM on a list of people that can't adopt animals.......no body wants to do anything against teflon man.....I am not worried because his day is coming I can just feel it.......I told the neighbor that if I take WW back to court for custody I will be sappinaing all the neighbors to court weather thay want to or not........And I do have quait the list ...........and as for This woman I told her that I am not ready for a relationship right now but she can call if she wants.....Friends only friends...

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Well okay then! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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Y'know...

I just read through a bunch of your posts, Frank. I am left with the unmistakable impression that you are going to be one of the ones who 'makes it'.

John


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