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Wayne & Tamara on "relationship experts"... #1878998 05/19/07 05:26 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,554 M ManInMotion OP Member
OP ManInMotion Member M Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,554	...from their latest "answer": [color:"blue"]"We've mentioned before that the best-selling relationship author of the last 20 years has a "Ph.D" from a school which was shut down by the state of California as a diploma mill. His ex-wife and former business partner is the author of more than a dozen relationship books. Last time we checked she was married to her fifth husband."[/color] Any ideas who they're talking about? ManInMotion =========== (see "MiM's Story" for more details)

Re: Wayne & Tamara on "relationship experts"... ManInMotion #1878999 05/19/07 05:39 PM
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 35,996 Shrek's Swamp P Pepperband Member
Pepperband Member P Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 35,996 Shrek's Swamp	Barbara De Angelis LINK ~~> Carrot/Stick of Plan A LINK ~~> Buyers/Renters/Freeloaders

Re: Wayne & Tamara on "relationship experts"... Pepperband #1879000 05/19/07 05:41 PM
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Pepperband Member P Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 35,996 Shrek's Swamp	and John Gray LINK ~~> Carrot/Stick of Plan A LINK ~~> Buyers/Renters/Freeloaders

Re: Wayne & Tamara on "relationship experts"... Pepperband #1879001 05/19/07 05:43 PM
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Pepperband Member P Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 35,996 Shrek's Swamp	from 2003 this is old news http://www.rickross.com/reference/gray/gray3.html LINK ~~> Carrot/Stick of Plan A LINK ~~> Buyers/Renters/Freeloaders

Re: Wayne & Tamara on "relationship experts"... Pepperband #1879002 05/19/07 05:48 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,554 M ManInMotion OP Member
OP ManInMotion Member M Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,554	The "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus" John Gray? Oh my... ManInMotion =========== (see "MiM's Story" for more details)

Re: Wayne & Tamara on "relationship experts"... ManInMotion #1879003 05/19/07 05:55 PM
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Pepperband Member P Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 35,996 Shrek's Swamp	yep the very same one moneymakers are from Mars LINK ~~> Carrot/Stick of Plan A LINK ~~> Buyers/Renters/Freeloaders

Re: Wayne & Tamara on "relationship experts"... ManInMotion #1879004 05/19/07 05:55 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,554 M ManInMotion OP Member
OP ManInMotion Member M Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,554	Hmm.. seems they even have a page on their website devoted to them: http://www.wayneandtamara.com/barbaradeangelis.htm Note: Wayne & Tamara's "advice" is typically at odds to MB advice too, particularly wrt infidelity. I've never seen them suggest trying to recover a M in the face of infidelity. ManInMotion =========== (see "MiM's Story" for more details)

Re: Wayne & Tamara on "relationship experts"... Pepperband #1879005 05/19/07 06:00 PM
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Pepperband Member P Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 35,996 Shrek's Swamp	this is about the closed school http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/News/cpu.html and a list of their >ahem< "honorable" alumni LINK ~~> Carrot/Stick of Plan A LINK ~~> Buyers/Renters/Freeloaders

Re: Wayne & Tamara on "relationship experts"... ManInMotion #1879006 05/19/07 07:17 PM
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Gimble Member G Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,517	Hi, ManInMotion. I have studied WayneandTamara right down to finding their initial posts on usenet, which evidently were a "test run" of their soon to appear (at the time) advice column(s). Their opinion seems to basically be this; Any situation where the relationship is faltering should be summarily dissolved, because if the love were "real", then there wouldn't be a problem. Can you say "circular logic"? They claim to have "true love". I guess that looks eerily similar to "soul mates". What a pair - of nuts. Gimble -An affair is the embodiment of entitlement, fueled by resentment and lack of respect. -An infidel will remain unreachable so long as their sense of entitlement exceeds their ability to reason.

Re: Wayne & Tamara on "relationship experts"... Gimble #1879007 05/19/07 08:27 PM
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Gimble Member G Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,517	Regarding "Wayne and Tamara". I just want to make sure that I am clear on my opinion of these two. I think that their advice is absolutely irresponsible to the point of being poisonous to anyone unfortunate enough to take it. Gimble -An affair is the embodiment of entitlement, fueled by resentment and lack of respect. -An infidel will remain unreachable so long as their sense of entitlement exceeds their ability to reason.

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