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#242384 01/22/04 06:44 PM
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Umm, I had success doing Atkins Diet for 4 months before Thanksgiving (loss 28 lbs).

But I decided to "relax" and did a somewhat loose form of Atkins (ate more carbs, but considerably less than previous pre-AD). Since Thanksgiving all the way to New Years, I gained 7 lbs which is ok with me.

But I thought I can go back, and it seems easier than said this 2nd time around. I can't seem to remember what motivated me, other than reading about AD here in the MB boards.

Anyway, I want to lose another 22 (15 + the 7 I gained). I already know how much daily carbs I can take to "maintain" my weight.

How are you AD'ers doing?

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30 lbs gone and counting!

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30lbs vanished. At goal weight now and I've increased carbs significantly with no weight gain. I actually eat everything I used to now except sugar and flour. I feel great! Atkins rocks!

Mike

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I've had so much success that I've revised my goals!

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Is there a problem that you can see with the increase in fat content/cholesterol/high blood pressure issues?

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No, actually quite the oppposite. Increasing your natural fat intake and significantly reducing your simple carbohydrate intake is almost guaranteed to reduce both your excess body fat and your blood pressure. Eating foods high in dietary cholesterol (eg. eggs) is not harmful at all.

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Is there a problem that you can see with the increase in fat content/cholesterol/high blood pressure issues?


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I don't think that the doctor would agree that it would be healthy for a person with high blood pressure and high cholesterol should do this diet. All of the stress on the venous system with cholesterol clogging up and the high blood pressure, increasing fat intake sounds like a bad idea!

I wonder if anyone has done a medical study on that! BP will go down if you lose a ton of weight but how you lose that weight I think may be important for folks with CVD hi bp and cholesterol levels.

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WFLOWER... you're in a fog, just like all the other low-fat high-carb followers out there. It's not your fault though, it's what the USDA has been telling us all to do for years with their silly food pyramid. That food pyramid is the surest way to become obese and give yourself a great chance of getting diabetes.

Dramtically reduce your carbs. Increase your fat and protein intake. Take a brisk walk every day. If your blood pressure doesn't drop, I'll send you a box of chocolates.

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I don't think that the doctor would agree that it would be healthy for a person with high blood pressure and high cholesterol should do this diet. All of the stress on the venous system with cholesterol clogging up and the high blood pressure, increasing fat intake sounds like a bad idea!

I wonder if anyone has done a medical study on that! BP will go down if you lose a ton of weight but how you lose that weight I think may be important for folks with CVD hi bp and cholesterol levels.


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WFLOWER:

I suggest you do some research....studies have shown that people who follow the Atkin's diet experience a drop in blood pressure AND lipid levels. For anyone who cares to dispute this and mention studies which were done for the Heart and Stroke Association---just skip it. My friend is a researcher for a nutritional agency---he tells me that the results are ALWAYS in the favour of the company paying for the research.

I have experienced a drop in lipids and the members of the Atkin's message board that I belong to have also experienced it. My family doctor mentioned that I must be doing something right because he hasn't seen lipids drop as significantly as mine, even with drugs such as Lipitor. My blood pressure was always normal--after following Atkin's for 6 months, it dropped to below normal levels---nothing wrong with that!

The book "The Protein Power Plan" does an excellent job of explaining why the absence of carbs and sugar do more to control lipid levels than the absence of fat. The average person doesn't realize that carbohydrates coupled with sugar metabolizes into plaque inside your arteries. For those of you who remember elementary school---when you eat sugar, plaque also forms on your teeth....

Never believe the garbage that government funded institutions feed you. I never learned the key to feeling great and losing weight, unless I researched diets myself. My doctor wouldn't give me his blessing until I insisted that he checked my Post-Atkin's bloodwork---when he read the results, he told me to keep up the good work.

...AND, my last comment---it's healthier to be thin and following a low carb diet, than to be FAT and attempting to eat low fat.....I can't tell you how many of my overweight friends CONTINUE To be overweight because "eating low carb is unhealthy"....RIGHT--but continuously carrying around 100 extra pounds is much better.... [Roll Eyes]

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Sorry to say to you, that I don't need to lose weight. But, the high fat diet concerns me due to the fact the number one killer of Americans is still heart disease. I don't think it is the carbs that are killing them!

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OH--well excuse me---YOU don't think that the carbs are killing people with heart disease.....so, are YOU a cardiologist? Just for your information---Dr. Atkin's was.

You didn't read a word of what I said. Typical--dismissed it. You ARE in a fog, aren't you?

OH--and my sincerest congratulations to you---I found it rather cute how you made sure to tell everyone that you didn't need to lose weight....*clap clap clap*.....

#242395 01/22/04 08:04 PM
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You're making the assumption that EATING fat causes heart disease. That is just not the case.

GETTING fat causes heart disease.

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Sorry to say to you, that I don't need to lose weight. But, the high fat diet concerns me due to the fact the number one killer of Americans is still heart disease. I don't think it is the carbs that are killing them!


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Gee Aeri, I am sorry!

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What are you sorry for, your ignorance of this subject?

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by mike_married:
[QB] You're making the assumption that EATING fat causes heart disease. That is just not the case.

GETTING fat causes heart disease.
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Yes, getting fat does cause heart disease. It is also very much inherited.

Just wondering if anyone knows of a legitimate study, outside of special interest groups, that have some facts about the cholesterol.

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whoops..

[ January 22, 2004, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: *^aeri^* ]

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It's not all high fat that is in Atkin's diet.

It's the reduction of carbs and sugars. This reduction leads to the reduction in your craving for more carbs/sugar foods.

Caffeine stimulates this craving for carbs/sugar, so it is adviced to cut or lower caffeine in the first 2 weeks of induction.

Fatty foods are allowed because it's not carbs. Fatty foods also helps satisfy your body of hunger.

There are food with carbs, but they also have dietary fibers which negates carbs as far as AD. So vegetables are good. Some fruit eventually.

Vitamins which I did not take will help out ease craving. That's probably what I should do tonight.

A high protein, low fat with plenty of fibers is a decent meal, and have low carbs. Ceasar chicken salad, my fav!

It's good to hear great progress, and that's what motivated me. I'll do it! We'll see in 2 months if I lose 22 lbs. [Smile]

I remember it was the first 4 days that was horrible. But after that, my body adjusted to the low carb intake. So long as I understood what my body was feeling, I was OK in continuing with AD.

Also, I asked my doc what he thought. He said it's a good start to lose weight, then I could evaluate how my diet habits changed, and change to something I could maintain.

I checked my ideal weight for my height, and it was exactly how much I weight after boot camp when I joined the U.S. Navy 14 years ago.

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That does make good sense, JM. What I did was to curb the carbs, and drop the fatty foods, and exercise.

Caffeine is a good one to watch. What about alcohol?

Is the South Beach diet similar to this one?

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