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I am new to this forum, but not this website.

I have been a victim of EAs for years. I recently discovered another (3rd) EA that my husband had in a 7 year span with a woman he met at a wedding I was unable to attend with him due to one of our kids being ill. 10 years his senior, they called and texted hundreds of times in a 3 month span. I only became suspicious when he came home with a present from "someone at work" for our son. The investigating began, and sadly, the moment I opened and researched our phone bill, there was a number over and over and over showing up that wasn't recognized by me. Just when I started to earn back his trust and give him back privacy---WHAM---it happened again!

Like any suspicious wife, I grabbed his phone when he wasn't looking and looked up this number I located on the records online. She was coded with a alpha-numeric name. As I dug deeper, I read a few of their texts. Sick to my stomach, I approached him and the truth spewed from his mouth like acid hitting my face and burning me.

This isn't the first time this happened to me, either. This happened after our now 8 year old daughter was a year old with a past co-worker and again when I was pregnant with my our 5 year old son with a girl he dated in high school. There were also instances of him having a profile on adultfriendfinder.com looking for older, married women and conversing with women via email. Who knows what else I don't know? At this point, I'm just tainted and have a hard time believing ANYTHING!

My husband swares all instances were NOT physical. But I really have a hard time believing him. In fact, I assume he was physical with all women I found out about just to soften the blow when the truth eventually surfaces..if it ever does.

I am an attractive woman with a great personality. I'm confident and I feel like I deserve better. But I'm product of a divorced marriage and I SWORE I'd never do this to my kids and that marriage is worth working at no matter what. So I'm fighting for this, and my husband is 100% invested in working on this, too. I swore "the next time this happened" I'd pack up and leave...but it's so hard to do when you have love, time and children invested in someone.

Here's my issues...

#1--When these EAs happen, we work hard at fixing our marriage when the bomb drops, but 3 months later (now) we both fall back into our same routines. He needs ego stroking-I don't give it. I'm working full time and juggling 2 kids alone most of the time due to his 2nd shift schedule and expect him to do more-and he doesn't meet my needs. I read His Needs, Her Needs, and it was great! I applied it to my life. For 3 months. I picked up the book again yesterday to refresh my goals. Husband went to counseling, and stopped. I can tell he is slipping again with his poor habits and lack of enthusiasm to try at this marriage harder.

#2--I CANNOT go through this again. Emotionally and physically, this drained me, and numbed me. AGAIN? I just can't believe it! So, I put a one year expiration date on this marriage. If things don't get better, I will file for separation. Does that sound harsh? Unreasonable?

#3--I find myself trying to look at my husband with respect and love and adoration, but I find myself feeling sickened by him sometimes. Recently, he repeated something he said to the OW in a text and I about barfed. It put me in a rotten, standoff mood all day. Anyone else get like this? How did you get over it?

#4--It's going to be so hard to trust again, if ever. It took me FIVE YEARS to get to the point I was at when this EA was revealed. I don't know that I can do it again. It's exhausting checking email, phones and questioning all of his actions...let alone wanting to snoop through his work phone that I can't access records for. What tips do you have that helped you?

We have planned a trip in July for our 10 year anniversary. I secretly call it the "Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston getaway". Anyone remember when those two called it quits just after they escaped to a tropical island? It's just him and I for 7 days. I have a feeling what happens there will make or break my choice to give it my all or give it up.

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Wow, sorry to hear about what you are going through. If he is on adultfriendfinder your husband is actually looking for sex. If the OW is married it has got to be exposed. I couldnt possibly allow him privacy, this is bad. Privacy encourages deception from the get go. He has bad boundaries.

If he keeps having affairs, what can you do? Plan B or?

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When confronted about aff, he said he was just 'curious'. That was 8 years ago, and I've banned porn and related sites from our pcs. But he continued anyhow. I turned a blind eye and swept it under the rug back then. Naive and dumb!

I don't know for certain if the OW is married. I've heard she's divorced. The last time I exposed the OW she threatened him and he paid her off with money! My husband is a public servant in the law enforcement business. So, I'm leary to contact the OW even though I can on Facebook. I found her on there. Should I confront her? Is that worth it?

He is a terrible "nice guy" who likes attention from women. He is a good looking man, a tad overweight...but a charmer. He has bad boundaries, for certain. I know I can't allow him privacy, and I basically "took away" his cell phone. But he still has his work phone. Good thing I know his boss and I asked him to check for her number! So far, no more have popped up from her.


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If he keeps having affairs, what can you do? Plan B or? [/quote]

I think the big D is my plan if he can't stop affair'ing.


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#4--It's going to be so hard to trust again, if ever. It took me FIVE YEARS to get to the point I was at when this EA was revealed. I don't know that I can do it again. It's exhausting checking email, phones and questioning all of his actions...let alone wanting to snoop through his work phone that I can't access records for. What tips do you have that helped you?

Hi mrsreynolds, welcome to Marriage Builders. I bolded the basic problem above. The reason this keeps happening is because there is too much trust in your marriage, and because of that, extraordinary precautions have never been set in place. Instead of relying on trust, I would set up extraordinary precautions to make sure another affair can't happen. Apparently, your H can't be trusted out of your sight, so I would think of ways to create a completely integrated lifestyle. Maybe that entails starting up a business together. But I would take steps so that it is impossible for him to carry on affair when you are not there.

Does he travel for a living?


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Hi Melody! Thanks for the insight. My husband is a police officer and works the 2nd shift (2pm-10pm). I've begged him to go to day shift for 3 years, but he insists that'd be career suicide since he's worked so hard at earning the title he has on this shift as a tactical officer for gangs/drugs. He also says that I don't respect his job and show no interest in it. This has been an issue for a long time simply b/c I am ALONE so much with our kids and the chores, etc fall on me primarily. So, yes, I do RESENT his shift, not his job. And I was vocal about that for some time til he voiced how much it bothered him.

Trust. Such a small word with such huge meaning. You're right. He needs to be kept accountable for his actions all day, everyday. And he should expect that at this point. I work from home so we are together all day til 1pm when he leaves for work. From then til 10pm, I assumed he was at work...but his overtime can vary, and come up last minute depending on arrests. So I've had calls at 10pm that he won't be home til 1am at the soonest due to an arrest. Was he really there? I never checked. I trusted he was. Ugh, you're totally right. I am way too trusting and let the leash out too far....

Question--regarding the His Needs, Her Needs, how does that need to be done as a marriage in crisis? Do we read it together and go over chapter by chapter as a couple?





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Originally Posted by mrsreynolds4
Hi Melody! Thanks for the insight. My husband is a police officer and works the 2nd shift (2pm-10pm). I've begged him to go to day shift for 3 years, but he insists that'd be career suicide since he's worked so hard at earning the title he has on this shift

MrsReynolds, that is where I would start. Make it a condition that he get another shift that supports your marriage, instead of the other way around. I suspect he has built an entire secret second life by working that shift. So that is the first change I would insist upon. Can you really EVER be safe while he is a police officer? I would ask yourself that honestly, but I wonder if you will be safe unless and until he changes his career.

Whether your marriage ends up with success or failure will depend almost entirely on your husband's willingness and ability to make radical changes. His lifestyle must become absolutely transparent, holding nothing back. He is in no position to negotiate when it comes to extraordinary precautions, because those precautions are designed to prevent another affair and help you feel safe. He must also meet your emotional needs in a way that until now he has failed. Your resentment, defensiveness, and questions regarding the wisdom of staying in your marriage are all very reasonable -- unless your husband makes a 180 degree turn in his approach to what it means to be a husband.

Unless he makes radical, demonstrable change, you are headed for another affair.

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Trust. Such a small word with such huge meaning. You're right. He needs to be kept accountable for his actions all day, everyday. And he should expect that at this point. I work from home so we are together all day til 1pm when he leaves for work. From then til 10pm, I assumed he was at work...but his overtime can vary, and come up last minute depending on arrests. So I've had calls at 10pm that he won't be home til 1am at the soonest due to an arrest. Was he really there? I never checked. I trusted he was. Ugh, you're totally right. I am way too trusting and let the leash out too far....

If you can't hold him accountable with a job like that, you might want to seriously consider asking him to change careers.

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Question--regarding the His Needs, Her Needs, how does that need to be done as a marriage in crisis? Do we read it together and go over chapter by chapter as a couple?

I would get the book Surviving an Affair and go through it together, however, I think your husband is so destructive that it will take professional guidance to change this around.

Until he makes radical changes he is dangerous to you. Have you been checked for STDs?


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Yikes! I've never thought about getting checked for STDs! I was just at my annual and all came up fine, so....geez, I don't even know do I have to ask for a test? I've been with my husband for 17 years of faithful time (on my part). I never had to ask that...*sigh*

You've pointed out some very important things I hadn't thought of before. He has been destructive and this isn't something I can fix alone to avoid affair #4...I've tried. And he begs me not to tell anyone about it b/c he won't ever be able to look at them again b/c of shame. Well, I told his best friend, his best friend's wife, my family and his brother and wife. I won't tell his mom b/c she takes his side and says I need to be medicated...or it's his job...or it's his medication for RA that makes him moody.

I have been finding myself daydreaming about life with a man the complete opposite of my husband lately...wondering if I'm wasting my time and maybe not in love with him any longer. I do love my husband, but I have to be honest, not like I used to. The sun would rise and set for him years ago. Now he's sort of just my sidekick/room mate type. I've totally disconnected from him.




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Originally Posted by mrsreynolds4
Yikes! I've never thought about getting checked for STDs! I was just at my annual and all came up fine, so....geez, I don't even know do I have to ask for a test? I've been with my husband for 17 years of faithful time (on my part). I never had to ask that...*sigh*

Please make an appointment tomorrow and get checked! You could be risking your life. This is why your H's lifestyle is so destructive.

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You've pointed out some very important things I hadn't thought of before. He has been destructive and this isn't something I can fix alone to avoid affair #4...I've tried.

He needs to radically change his lifestyle.

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And he begs me not to tell anyone about it b/c he won't ever be able to look at them again b/c of shame. Well, I told his best friend, his best friend's wife, my family and his brother and wife. I won't tell his mom b/c she takes his side and says I need to be medicated...or it's his job...or it's his medication for RA that makes him moody.

Please reconsider your strategy of keeping his affairs secret. You are harming HIM by doing this. Exposing his affairs wide and far will wake him up. The more people who know about his affairs, the more people to hold him accountable. Exposure is like chemotherapy to cancer. By hiding his affairs for him, he remains in a state of FOG. Exposure lifts the fog that plagues him. It is easier for him to continue under the cloak of darkness this way.

I would tell EVERYONE about his affairs: his mother, your parents, family members, your children, any HUSBANDS of his affair partners, Human Resources at his workplace. The more people who know the safer he is to others.

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My basic approach to life is that radical honesty is valuable on many different dimensions. It keeps us out of trouble, it helps others understand us, and it helps others avoid the same mistakes we have made. Letting your children know the details of your husband's affair would help them in all three areas.

The more your children know about your husband's affair, the more careful he will be to avoid them in the future.
The more your children know about his affair, the more they will understand what you are going through in your recovery (by the way, you are doing very well -- keep up the good work!).

Being radically honest about your husband's affair with your children would also help them avoid affairs themselves. How it happened and how could it have been prevented is a great object lesson for children. I learned that I was vulnerable for an affair when I learned about my grandfather's affairs. The extraordinary precautions I've taken were directly related to what I learned about him.

It's the approach I've always taken, and while it's difficult, especially for the WS, there's much more upside to it than downside.

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[I have been finding myself daydreaming about life with a man the complete opposite of my husband lately...wondering if I'm wasting my time and maybe not in love with him any longer. I do love my husband, but I have to be honest, not like I used to. The sun would rise and set for him years ago. Now he's sort of just my sidekick/room mate type. I've totally disconnected from him.

You probably have fallen out of love with him. I don't see how you could be in love with him after all this. But that can be turned around if he makes radical, meaningful changes in his life. Otherwise, you are just damned to more of the same until you grow to truly hate him.


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I was just at my annual and all came up fine, so....geez, I don't even know do I have to ask for a test? I've been with my husband for 17 years of faithful time (on my part). I never had to ask that...*sigh*
Welcome, Mrs. Reynolds. I'm sorry, but yes, you'll need to go back to your Dr. and explain the situation. Your Dr will need to have certains tests done to confirm any STDs. There is more than one test, and you'll need to decide how many you want to have done. The tests range from testing for chlamydia to AIDS.



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Ok, so, let me ask this...how often are you supposed to talk about "IT"? The MB way says not to ruin a good day by bringing up "IT"...but I think about it nearly hourly, or more! I barely get alone time with my husband, so when we do, I want to mend fences, not tear them down.

Mel-I really do think I'm falling out of love with him. He broke my heart so many times I feel like I'm barely ticking in my chest anymore :o( But I'm trying to find things I love about him again. It's hard. It's VERY hard. His counselor asked him to ask me to make a list of things I like about him b/c he suffers from low self esteem...and it was really hard to make that list. When I finished it and read it, I liked that guy, but he's dead to me now.

I just wish he'd be honest about the EA and the connection he had with the OW (x3). I'm really having a hard time surviving this affair this time. I'm not angry this time, I'm NUMB. I'm conflicted.


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Originally Posted by mrsreynolds4
Ok, so, let me ask this...how often are you supposed to talk about "IT"? The MB way says not to ruin a good day by bringing up "IT"...but I think about it nearly hourly, or more! I barely get alone time with my husband, so when we do, I want to mend fences, not tear them down.

He should tell you the full truth about all of his affairs, answering any and all of your questions to your satisfaction. Once that is done, the subject should be dropped. However, none of this matters unless he makes radical changes in his lifestyle. He is a lifestyle cheater and this is a way of life for him. This will continue until he makes dramatic changes in his life.


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Originally Posted by mrsreynolds4
Mel-I really do think I'm falling out of love with him. He broke my heart so many times I feel like I'm barely ticking in my chest anymore :o( But I'm trying to find things I love about him again. It's hard. It's VERY hard. His counselor asked him to ask me to make a list of things I like about him b/c he suffers from low self esteem...and it was really hard to make that list. When I finished it and read it, I liked that guy, but he's dead to me now.

In order to find things to like about your husband, he needs to ACT in a likable and esteemable manner. Otherwise, how could you like such a destructive person?

And tell the counselor that, of course, he has low self esteem. There is very little to esteem in a liar and a cheater. What is there to esteem about a corrupt individual? Rather than trying to find bizarre, incomprehensive ways to like esteem someone who is unesteemable, he should change his behavior into someone who IS worthy of esteem. The counselor has this all backwards.


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He should tell you the full truth about all of his affairs, answering any and all of your questions to your satisfaction. Once that is done, the subject should be dropped.

He never answers the questions I have about his affairs to my satisfaction. He always answers with I DON'T KNOW (the 10 year old answer) or gets angry with me. This is where I struggle. I never get the answer I feel I'm deserved.


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He should tell you the full truth about all of his affairs, answering any and all of your questions to your satisfaction. Once that is done, the subject should be dropped.

He never answers the questions I have about his affairs to my satisfaction. He always answers with I DON'T KNOW (the 10 year old answer) or gets angry with me. This is where I struggle. I never get the answer I feel I'm deserved.

That won't work. He has to give you all the answers in order to recover your marriage. MrsR, I would set the bar very high and if he doesn't meet those standards, you are not safe with him and would be much better off getting divorced. You are headed for more of the same unless he makes a radical, 180 degree change.

You are going to get divorced anyway if he doesnt change. So you can do it now or you can endure a few more affairs in the future. If he won't make radical changes, this is your future.

I am really concerned that he may have given you an STD.


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I would make a decision here, MrsR, about what you plan on doing with your life. Are you willing to endure some more affairs if he won't change?

If you are not prepared to live like this anymore, I would lay out your conditions for him. He either says yes or no. But you won't have a marriage unless he does these things.


Set him down and explain to him that are not willing to spend any more time with a cheater. It is too dangerous and he has just about killed any remaining love you have for him. You won't live like that anymore. In order to stay in this marriage, he will have to take extraordinary precautions to avoid another affair or you are not interested. EP's are not negotiable. This is what it will take to keep you interested:

1. finding another job that supports your marriage [is not prone to adultery], allows complete transparency, with no overnight travel - until a new job that you BOTH AGREE TO, he agrees to immediately get a shift change

2. complete transparency - cell phone passwords, etc - he must become an open book

3. no more opposite sex friendships

4. complete honesty about past affairs � passing a polygraph

5. commit to a program of recovery that restores the romantic love in your marriage

6. no going out without each other, no overnight travel without each other

Tell him "this is what it will take to keep me in this marriage." Whether your marriage ends up with success or failure will depend almost entirely on your his willingness and ability to make radical changes.

I would also put a GPS on his car along with flexispy on his phone.


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Mel, you're wonderful, thank you for the advice. I have to take the bull by the horns, I've been too complacent in this aftermath. He did have to sleep in the basement for 2 weeks until I could muster up strength to look at him again, but other than that and him fearing divorce papers to show up at the door, I've done no further planning.

I appreciate your guidelines. I've also never heard of flexispy! Hmm, I'll look into that.

Wish me luck with my discussion(s) and thanks again!


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Good luck, MrsR! smile And remember, these conditions are not negotiable. If he doesn't want to do them, you are faced with more affairs.

And be sure and expose his affairs to everyone. Everyone should know. Don't warn him, just start informing everyone, especially the husbands of any OW.


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I am so sorry for all that your H has put you thru....I definitely would have a std test....I found out myself....I have contracted a std from my own H who got it from the first OW he was with....to make matters worse, he then adulterated yet with OW two....his "true love" to whom he so kindly gave a std too...

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I understand about exposing wayward H of his adulteries....However, is there such a thing of telling your teens too much? And...how will that impact them? The reasons why i ask, is first of all, my teens knew before I did that my H was cheating on me....they insisted that i tell them what's going on because they don't want the rug pulled out from underneath them like all of a sudden, we divorce...I did tell them some, but not in any details, though...about our progress/regression about our marriage....
Well...my teens have acted out by experimenting in destructive behavior.....so, please help me to understand more clearly what you mean by exposing my WH affairs to people....

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