Type of death - which would you choose? - Marriage Builders® Forums

If you could predetermine the way you will die, but not the time, would it be,

A. a slow, tortuous death, or
B. a quick painless one.

Please consider that the slow, tortuous death gives you much more opportunity to reflect on your life and REALLY appreciate what you're about to lose, i.e., the final, but likely best growth opportunity.

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[ May 27, 2004, 01:28 PM: Message edited by: worthatry ]

Full metal jacket bullet to the brain.

Thanks for asking...
2Long is going to give you his ice-cream flavor preference... you watch!

Pep

[ May 27, 2004, 01:41 PM: Message edited by: Pepperband ]

Ohhh gosh, this is so hard. Lemme see ....

Man, I'll have to think about this one and get back to you ... cuz yanno, that slow torturous death thing really does have it's opportunities to learn stuff.

Be back later.
Jo

I have some questions regarding the slow torturous death before I give my final answer:

1. Can I also be lied to and abhorently disrespected during it?

2. Will there be deceit and blame too?

3. Any humiliation involved?

Jo

My only preference is B. I am experiencing the ist kind of death now, but I do grow myself and learn a lot.

Vanilla, with Pe-Te's Cajun BBQ sauce on top! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I had a chemistry professor who, when he didn't know the answer 2 a question from one of the s2dents, would say "Five minutes after death, all will be revealed 2 you." So the learning oppor2nity of a slow, painful, tor2uos death would not be for nothing. ...at least for 5 minutes, that is.

-ol' 2long

Quick and painless. I do NOT want to see it coming. I've had enough stress in my life. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

If you're about to die, what good is reflection gonna do you? In a matter of minutes/hours none of it is going to make any difference.

But I guess quick and painless is only better if you're ready to meet your final judgement without a "heads up". <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Lori

[ May 27, 2004, 01:43 PM: Message edited by: at peace ]

3. Any humiliation involved?

Only if YOU choose it.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Pepperband:
 3. Any humiliation involved?

Only if YOU choose it. <hr /></blockquote>Aka "self-inflict" it? lol

Dammit, I so dislike being able to choose to feel stuff. What a inconvenient nusance that is.

A.

I want 2 learn a LOT!

"court martialed, shot, and sent 2 the Russian Front!"
-Colonel Klink, "Hogan's Heroes"

-ol' 2long

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> If you're about to die, what good is reflection gonna do you? In a matter of minutes/hours none of it is going to make any difference <hr /></blockquote>We are all about to die. Even you only have one minute, we can always reflect our life. We need to enjoy every minute GOD give us in this word and reflect HIS glory.

One stroy I heard:

A monk was planting flowers. Someone asked him what he would do if the world is go to be detroed in 15 minutes, he answered: plant flowers.

My instinct, merely cuz it sounds more noble somehow, is to go with the slow tortuous one. Then I thought, as much bravado as I'd like to display, I might risk crying like a five year old girl and wetting my pants. That's not growth. I'd rather keep my illusion of dignity and go fast before I have a chance to fail myself.

The bigger question for me is, what are you dying for. I'd risk a lot for a righteous cause, but if I was to die for the sake of dieing....fast, without soiling myself.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Resilient:
 I have some questions regarding the slow torturous death before I give my final answer:

1. Can I also be lied to and abhorently disrespected during it?

<hr /></blockquote>Sure you can! And that will give you opportunities to develop your powers to detect BS and grow in your ability to nobly rise above the quagmire of lies...

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Great "poll" WAT!

2long - OT here.

Speaking of Hogan's Heros, several years ago we had an au pair from the former East Germany. She was 19 at the time, was 9 when the wall came down. Her english was really good and she learned it only after reunification.

Anyway, she taught me the german translation for phrases I'd frequently need like, "Just a minute, I'll get her" for when her german friends called.

I explained that the only german I knew was what I learned on Hogan's Heros. She had no idea what that was. Eventually, we stumbled on to a re-run on Nick at Night or something and she howled! Couldn't get her away from it!

haha, I can appreciate uh...um...what the heck is the word anyways....parody? as much as the next person. But the question is legitimate.....if our state of mind is a factor in life after death, then the slow torturous one is the more likely choice...in the scheme of eternity, the time to die is of little consequence...but the ramifications are enormous. A secondary (but maybe not applicable for this poll), consideration would be the greater value the folks left behind put on how someone dies.... and could effect some greater good that the dying person feels beneficial as well.

If i choose A...can I still eat and taste?

ARK...I am very serious about that question...

kammie - always wondered what 6318 was in your name? Maybe you should start a poll for us to guess?

absolutely perfect WAT <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Quick!!!! Don't want to know it's coming!!
I figure as long as I am alive and I do my best each and everyday to live by the word of God than I am ok.

Going through the pain that I am right now feels just like a slow and tortuous death!! Would never want to do it again!!

Mmmm, neither today, thank you...

I WOULD like a jumbo jack, curly fries, and large orange drink...

I saw a commercial last night, for Butterfinger, I think, anyway, something crunchy. An old guy is munching away and his toothless wife is looking at him longingly. So, he takes out his upper & lower dentures and hands her the candy bar, she puts the teeth in... I can't remember what the tag line was because I was laughing.

So, I'm ready to go as God wills, but I'd prefer not to have to share teeth with anyone on the way there. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Gosh, WAT, so many variables. Isn't it interesting when you think you're asking a straightforward question such as thing and find out that no one can just answer? And we wonder why we don't communicate well. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

Anyway, since I don't know all the variables, I will make my assumptions and just answer without asking questions. I want to go fast...massive stroke in my sleep when I'm home alone. (If H is home and works fast he could and would turn it into the other one. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> )

I'm preciuos

P.S. You are all welcome for me not getting philosophical about all this. I could on and on and on...just like the energizer bunny. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

BTW,edited to add the "visible" emotion.

[ May 27, 2004, 02:31 PM: Message edited by: i'm precious ]

Worth,

I'm so disappointed. After all isn't this YOUR thread? Didn't you ask this question?

Well,.........................I'm still waiting..........................

NOT once have you responded with a smug superior attitude and given these simple peasants the truth as you see it, by simply " dismissing " any point or example that you your self have not brought up.

However, The main task your neglecting (IMO) is informing the masses what exactly IS "relevant" to a discussion!
Or even more important, what is "irrelevant" in their lives (or to the topic) IF it doesn't fit into your perspective of the issue.

I trust you'll look into this this matter promptly. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> Thank you

BTW, I'm with ark on the food thing. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

the final, but likely best growth opportunity
If it's the "final" growth opportunity, what would one do with this knowledge? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

What is the goal of the death? To move on, or to grow? If the goal of the death is simply death....I'll take the fast death. If the goal of the death is the growth before death.....I'll take the FAST death too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> !!!! LOL

Ark, and I'm Precious
I'm with you, when faced with death, it is all about the food. Let's discuss our last meal. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

I will give my choice to the OM S, she can decide for me. I'm guessing she will choose B, and enjoy it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by top rope:
Worth,

I'm so disappointed. After all isn't this YOUR thread? Didn't you ask this question?

Well,.........................I'm still waiting..........................

NOT once have you responded with a smug superior attitude and given these simple peasants the truth as you see it, by simply " dismissing " any point or example that you your self have not brought up.

However, The main task your neglecting (IMO) is informing the masses what exactly IS "relevant" to a discussion!
Or even more important, what is "irrelevant" in their lives (or to the topic) IF it doesn't fit into your perspective of the issue.

I trust you'll look into this this matter promptly. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> Thank you<hr /></blockquote>Bravo!

Beautifully articulated, TopRope.

Yes2rday's number was 239857623. That's 456790 more than the number for this date a year ago, and about bang on 2 the average for this season.

-ol' 2long

JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE FOOD DAMMIT
!!

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> ark

Hey, wait a minute, WAT (or is that wat a minute, WAIT?)!!

Where am I supposed to cast my vote? In cement?

Now there's a thought. Would donning concrete galoshas and jumping off a pier fall under A, or B?

-Qfwfq

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by lostnhurt:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr /> <hr /></blockquote>We are all about to die. Even you only have one minute, we can always reflect our life. We need to enjoy every minute GOD give us in this word and reflect HIS glory.<hr /></blockquote>I was looking at the meaning of "reflecting" as pondering the would'a/could'a/should'a's of life. No point in wasting time on that. I'm ready to see Jesus as soon as he's ready to see me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Lori

Slow and torturous, of course, because the opportunities for growth are many!

A good method for growth opportunities would be if someone severed one of my arms while I was busy taking care of their needs, but missed one or two that I wasn't aware of. I could prevent my death if I chose not to bleed. If I bled to death, I guess it would be my own stupid fault for choosing to respond that way.

I could work on my growth as the other arm was severed by the same person. If I didn't learn to not respond by bleeding when the first arm was severed, then the person would be helping me by giving me another opportunity to grow.

Hopefully, before both my legs were chopped off, I would have learned that the person with the machete (sp?) was not inflicting harm to me, they were giving me opportunities to grow. I would hope that I would thank them before my last breath.

Also, I would have had the opportunity to learn how to clean up the mess that I caused when I chose to bleed all over the place. If I grew enough during the experience, I would have all the blood cleaned up from one severed limb before the next was chopped off.

After my death the person could just complain about the leftover mess that I couldn't clean up by myself and walk away muttering in disgust that since I didn't make more of my growth opportunity he gave me then I probably wasn't Life Material in the first place.

I'm surprised more people didn't choose slow and torturous--especially if you choose to not respond by bleeding to death you'll get over it and live! If you're Life Material in the first place, that is.

WAT,

Good to see you still have your intelligent sense of humor. A couple of suggestions for your NEXT poll:

Which would you rather be, an unremorseful, self-righteous poster OR an egotistical, pontificating poster? (And please discount the recent evidence that it is entirely possible to be both.)

Which "growth experience" would you rather be sentenced to, twenty years of hard labor or twenty years of being forced to read posts written by SNL?

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Hilariously written by LB:
A good method for growth opportunities would be if someone severed one of my arms while I was busy taking care of their needs, but missed one or two that I wasn't aware of. I could prevent my death if I chose not to bleed. If I bled to death, I guess it would be my own stupid fault for choosing to respond that way.<hr /></blockquote>LMAO all the wayyyyyyy!

[ May 27, 2004, 02:59 PM: Message edited by: Resilient ]

It's really interesting to see how differently people look at the same simple question.

We all put our own "factors" into this death scenario, so our answers were based on different parameters.

Veeeery interesting...... (that always makes me think of Laugh-In <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> )

Lori

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Resilient:
 I have some questions regarding the slow torturous death before I give my final answer:

1. Can I also be lied to and abhorently disrespected during it?

2. Will there be deceit and blame too?

3. Any humiliation involved?

Jo <hr /></blockquote>This sort of sounds like Adriana's death from The Sopranos this week. Definitely not the way I would want to go - quick, painless & never saw it coming death for me!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> the final, but likely best growth opportunity
If it's the "final" growth opportunity, what would one do with this knowledge? <hr /></blockquote><img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Good Question!

Love it! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Susan

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> It's really interesting to see how differently people look at the same simple question. <hr /></blockquote><img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
I think that's because some of us are still trying to decide if we would rather have an affair or divorce...and here we are on to how we want to die. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Ark...Death by chocolate or divorce?

Susan

I was going to choose A (because I strive for personal growth) until I read this:

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> Five minutes after death, all will be revealed 2 you." <hr /></blockquote>So...I choose B. All I ever wanted is for *all to be revealed to me* and no longer be in the dark.

LOL - Way too funny LB!

sss

We wouldn't want to grow too much, since we might have already been measured for the coffin. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

oops double post

[ May 27, 2004, 03:19 PM: Message edited by: Susan ]

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Lor (Lor):
We wouldn't want to grow too much, since we might have already been measured for the coffin. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>LOL!

I often wonder if it would be more enlightening to die by being pulled through the gears of a combine or fed through the wood-chipper.

Decisions, decisions.

Can I pick who has to pick up the pieces, as it were?

If the entire question is ultimately about growth - then I have to go with Ark on this one. Food definatly makes me grow. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Originally posted by 2long:
"court martialed, shot, and sent 2 the Russian Front!"

Hold the phone....

you mean in ~this order~...? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

Pep

I'll take "quick & painless."

But Oh God, PLEASE don't let it be while I am nude, in the shower!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

With my luck my spirit would still be floating around looking for that bright light, watching all the lights, sirens, cops, paramedics, firefighters, neighbors gathering while I'm laying there in all my glory. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

Pep:

"you mean in ~this order~...? "

Yep. That's why it was so funny!

-ol' 2long

Well, I think we're missing OPTIMAL growth opportunities here. I'd go for the affair, then being served papers, THEN a slow and painful death.

Boy, what a mature and learned person I'd (briefly) be at the end of that.

TA

This reminds me of a scene from the movie The Princess Bride... the one where Wesley is being tortured, his life being sucked away, and the Count is clinically asking him for his reaction, and says something like remember this is for learning purposes (my kids would know the exact line from the movie) LOL

If we die in 15 minutes or we die in 15 yrs, what difference does it make that we learned something inthe 15 yrs - we won't remember it or know we learned it. There is absolutely no proof there is life after death and it looks very unlikely from where I'm standing. Don't you people look around airports and shopping centres? What would be the point of giving us another crack at life, some place else, some other time? We're so mean and ugly for the most part - who in there right mind would want to invite us back? What would be the purpose of that?

This is it folks! Ecc. 9: 5

Hey! I'm not mean OR ugly! Well...wait...those 10 minutes when I'm not quite awake in the morning...oh, and there's those 3 days prior to my period...hmmm, and when the dog dug up my favorite plant. Yup, you're right. My bad... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Ok, whether it be slow and torturous or quick and painless, I hope it involves CHOCOLATE! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

hopes4future, I thought you understood I was excluding you and me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

LOL! Well OBVIOUSLY! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

It's good to finally be one of the 'beautful people'....can we be perfect as well??

Really, everytime I check on this thread, I think

"A sharp stick to the eye or a glorious slow poison."

Of course, one could heal, with one blind eye, and poison...as in the Princess Bride, (watched it 2 nights ago) Wesley had been taking that particular poison he offered to the kidnapper of Princess Buttercup for years, and he had built up an immunity. What killed the kidnapper, didn't affect Wesley a bit.

Nor did the roll down the mountain right after that. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> And, that plucky Buttercup, she dived right after him, because, she knew him, because he said "As you wish."

Did I digress?

A bit <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Have fun storming the castle!

-ol' 2long

Lor,

My kids have memorized that whole movie too. The poison is iocaine powder....supposedly tasteless and odorless. And the line when Wesley is being tortured is: "I might one day go as high as five, but I really don't know what that would do to you, so let's just start with what we have. What did this do to you? Tell me. And remember, this is for posterity, so... be honest."

IN-CON-THEEEV-ABLE!!!!

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> SS <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

***Twu Wuv***

[ May 28, 2004, 02:29 AM: Message edited by: Spider Slayer ]

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Spider Slayer:
IN-CON-THEEEV-ABLE!!!!<hr /></blockquote>Daffy Duck? is THAT you?

[ May 28, 2004, 09:59 AM: Message edited by: Resilient ]

Ooo...Ooooo. I know. I Know.

The princess bride.

"My name is Enigo Montoya. Chew killed my father. Prepare to die."

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> "My name is Enigo Montoya. Chew killed my father. Prepare to die."
<hr /></blockquote>This is my absolute favorite line!

SerendipiT, that is one of my favorites, but I was too lazy to go find out what that guy's name is . . . good job.

Resilient, *sigh*, yes, there is a lithp involved. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Excellent movie.

Another kind-of cult favorite of ours that people either love or hate is "Big Trouble in Little China," one of Kurt Russel's most unknown movie. My favorite line in that movie is, "It's all in the reflexes."

Have you paid your dues, Jack? Yes sir, the check is in the mail!

I am a nut! Oh well! I'm happy!

SS

Oh cool. SS you could start a nuther whole forum on cult movie lines.

One of my favs: Blues Brothers: "We're on a mission from God." Character "Elwood" by Dan Akroyd. (hope my memory's right here.)

WAT, that movie line made me laugh out loud. I can totally remember his tone of voice and the look on his face.

You rock!

Here's one of my favorite lines from a cult movie...let's see who can tell me which one?

"Wouldn't I be really EXcellent in that capacity?"

or who knows where this lime comes from

"I tell any girl I'm going out with to assume that all plans are soft until she receives confirmation from me thirty minutes beforehand."

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by star*fish:
"Wouldn't I be really EXcellent in that capacity?"<hr /></blockquote>Col. Mustard in the library with the lead pipe?

Monica in the study with the blue dress?

Here's another bit of dialogue I like from the movie TPB.

From Vizzini,the character SS mentioned:

Vizzini: "I can't compete with you physically but you are no match for my brains"

Westley: "You're that smart?"

Vizzini: "Let me put it this way.Have you ever heard of Plato,Aristotle,Socrates?"

Westley: "Yes"

Vizzini: "Morons". LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

O

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> or who knows where this line comes from

"I tell any girl I'm going out with to assume that all plans are soft until she receives confirmation from me thirty minutes beforehand."
<hr /></blockquote>Michael J Fox, in the American President.

Am I right?

I love this game.

I have no choice. I am dying slowly with toture, like slow cook.

Lostnhurt,

What is going on? You are sounding so down. Just popped in here and scroll to the end. Your note is very cryptic. Please talk to me.

~ Snow

BTW, everyone, I am not planning on dying, ever. I hope to be raptured!!! Yay!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

It is one of those bad days. It is so baaaaaad.

Not bad enough to kill yourself. Take a look at what I posted on your other thread. Please.

~ Snow

"Wouldn't I be really EXcellent in that capacity?"

The Breakfast Club

One of my favorite lines from the approproiately entitled movie - Better Off Dead - "I want my Two Dollars!"

I'd choose......DEATH BY CHOCOLATE!

Hey ...

Is the "Princess Bride" rentable?

I haven't seen it yet and looked all over Friday eve for it,

Jo