I think it is time to say goodbye.

This place is no longer a safe, respectful place - and the problem runs far deeper than the cycles I've witnessed over the years. I hate to say it, but over the last few weeks, I've seen some terrible, cruel things done and said...by people I had once respected. And what is worse, I have seen it supported, tolerated and even encouraged by others.

This is no longer a healthy place for *me*, and so I'm done, and I won't be back.

Those of you who know me off the board know how to reach me.

BR,

I hate to hear this. I know we have never really communicated, but I do look for your posts. I may not agree with all of them, but they definitely get me thinking. You are one of the ones who has helped me change my way of thinking. Thank you for that.

Take care!

NO WAY.

BR... please, reconsider. You help too many people to go now (me included even though it was through your advice to others).

BR:

Thank you for your posts 2 me, even the ones I didn't want 2 hear at the time. I wanted 2 be sure you heard that from me.

Very sorry 2 see you go, but I do understand.

-ol' 2long

I hope whomever is lucky enough to know you off the boards will share your email with me...if they already have mine.

This is too much loss...and I know you know it...have experienced it. Loss of great people, great posts not yet written, loss of respect and loss of faith in this board.

Thank you for bringing clarity, spirit, commitment to MB and to my life, like the light you are.

You showed me by example how I was a volunteer, not a victim...and like JL...what is in my power, and what is not.

The power of choice.

To me, you're class, grace and steel, BR.

LA

BR,

I wish I could convince you to stay. You are a major part of the heart and soul of this board. I wish you the very very best! Please write to me some time. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

(((((((((((((((br)))))))))))))

Best wishes
star*

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Bramble...

I am so sorry to see you go, but I do understand. It's a loss to MB to see you go, though.

Take care--

Kathi

******.

I hate to see others not benefit from the wisdom you have shared with me. If you have energy to give, it is a great waste to see you driven away by hateful behavior. Maybe you could try avoiding Those Threads. It's what I do. I'm not even sure which threads you're talking about.

There are still plenty of people who need your help. Me, included. Who else will keep me in line? Fox?

BR:
I know without a doubt that I could continue to benefit from your advice and counsel. You have been instrumental in my growth, and the growth of others.

There's still work to be done.

I am very, very sad that it has come to this. I have not followed the drama that is going on elsewhere, but clearly it has gotten out of hand.

It would be lovely if you would be able to stick around for those of us who are still struggling to get to those places of acceptance, of self-trust, of letting go, and to learn to establish healthy boundaries.

I, for one, would breathe a sigh of relief (and I wouldn't have always said so, you may remember). Old habits die hard, and I don't always know when they are sneaking up on me. You have a good eye for that.

Please just give it some thought.

Boundaries can be flexible, you know. I think I learned that here...

But if it is not to be...Thank You.

Those two words are insufficient. I am so very grateful for what you have taught me.

LS

What's happening?
Those of us who need help still need help.
There will always be snake oil salesmen and other untrustworthy people in life who will gladly hand out bad advice. It is up to us as individuals to see through this and seek out what is right for us.
In the last couple of days I've seen several Vets quit on the board.
I wish you would re-consider.
Throwing in the towel is not a way to restore this board. It will merely turn it over to those who wish to see it's demise.
You support this by choosing not to stay and help keep it right.
Please try to understand how important your work here is and how valuable it is to others.
Don't let a few scumbags succeed in dragging it down by pushing the true good people like yourself away.
Please stay...

Good one, sdguy. That'll get her. She certainly isn't going to leave you in my care! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Seriously, though. I'm sorry to see you go, BR. You and I have been crosswise on a few points, but much of what you have posted has been very helpful. Although you are no longer on my thread, I read your posts and gain knowledge from posts you make to others.

There is still much we can learn from each other.

I'd love to see you stay and help those who need it, but understand if you must go.

I wish you the best.

Fox

Bramblerose,

I want to thank you for leading me down the road of personal recovery as far as you have. Thanks for the many 2x4s and for helping to remind me that there is always hope. If you must go, I wish you well on your journey. You will be sorely missed.

BR.. we've never posted to eachother before.. but if you check back here before you go.. THANK YOU for your posts to others helping them on the road to personal recovery.. your words will always be an inspiration to me.

This makes me SOOO SAD.

I feel the SAME WAY...

But I'm not leaving...

Hi BR,

A little birdie or two told me these boards were in bad shape. And indeed---this seems to be the case. I've been on 'retirement' from MB for some time, but I just thought I'd say "hi" and share my respect for the time and effort you've put in here---you're a good one!

I'm terribly sorry to see you leave, Rosie. But do what is right for you. So many here will never forget you and MB won't be the same without you. You're one of a kind and it was a priviledge to post next to you.

God Bless,
Jo

BR,

I hope you will reconsider.

Best Wishes.

BR, you will be missed.

BR,

Your discussion with TA and others on the current Enabling thread was said to resemble some of the valuable civil discussions these forums USED to have. Thanks for that contribution and for all the years you've contributed to dozens and hundreds and possibly thousands of other marriages (considering the power of multiplicity).

I, among others will be eternally grateful for what you've done, but especially if you stay to help be a part of solution. I've been here less than a year and have benefited tremendously from your insights. I would like to learn even more. I, too, hope you reconsider, but understand if you cannot.

THANK YOU,

Ace

BR,
I just wanted to say thank you for your posts. I have read things that you have posted to others and learned alot. I will miss reading your posts and getting it!
I wish you all the best.
Take Care, HurtingNCali

My dear BR,

I hear ya'. Sadly I hear ya'. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Totally understand like I told JL. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

You came on board just before I did, we have seen a lot through the years. You have the beauty and skills that we have greatly benefited from and I know you will continue to do so. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

My heart wants you to stay and continue your good work. My heart also knows why you are making this decision. My mind understands. I am more than torn in 2. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Please keep in contact when you can. **edit**

Hugz,
L.

BR,

I have come to respect you and your kindness more than can be said in words.

And I'll always think of you as brilliant, typos and all.

Wishing you all the best in life.

I can't help but hope that with your parting and the parting of JL, a lesson will be learned and when safety & kindness return, so will you.

Gonna miss your voice of reason, BR.

Mark

BR,

Sorry to see you go. I will miss your wise advice. Take care.

BR:

Sorry to see you go.

Someone you know knows how to reach me if you ever wanted to share some "soulspeak"

Your choice.

You will be missed.

Already.

LG

BrambleRose, the board will miss you a great deal. I'm very sad to see you go, but I fully understand why. It's not a healthy place to be, round here, these days.

Good luck, and peace be with you.

TA

What an enormous loss.

Mean people suck.

Is there no way that all the cretins and fecal agitators be expunged from the boards, so that this sort of thing doesn't happen anymore?

I can see how some may just disappear because their life doesn't allow them to post here, but when many veteran people say "to ****** with it, this place is a joke now" and decide to leave.......all of us suffer.

There are untold numbers of people who need your help Rose..me included.

If the members of this forum can't "self ontrol" ourselves, then we are in a really sad state of affairs. People are complaining about threads being locked..... It's obvious that some aren't able to see... or they don't care....
There is a noticeable trend towards argument instead of help within many posts and topics.

Those of us who come here for help and support are the big losers here, and right after us are those who have spent so much of their time offering the wealth of their experience......Damn those who try to ruin that with their poison and pettiness.

Bramble, I don't think you ever posted to my thread, but I have read your wisdom elsewhere, and you will be missed.....as will the others who have felt the need to leave.

Yours and their experiences will be missed by those who are only just beginning this "adventure".

I hope that those who think this forum is a platform for their pettiness and inadequacy will go find a rock to slither under...If nothing else, I'm sure they feel proud about how clever they are.

All the best to you Bramble, and others!

Ron

Actually... I think the past few days have shown a remarkable improvement back toward helping each other. I don't know, just MHO but I think the mods have stepped up and some long-gone veterans who really know the MB principles are here to help now.

For example, K. I'm learning a lot from reading his(her?) posts.

Thanks so much all the vets, for coming back. Your efforts are much appreciated!

Jayne,

I tend to agree. I am a bit surprised how those posts repeatedly took off in such a hurtful direction despite the honest attempts to bring us back on track to what we do best around here. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I too am grateful to the supporters who were able to get us back in focus. Yet at the same time quite sad to see several valuable members take their leave.

I must say that posting here a long time teaches humility. When I go back and read how I was helped, I continue to be grateful others took the time to help me. I can only try to give back in return. Folks like BR, JL and others provided invaluable support during those times to both myself and many others here.

Thanks for your post. I hope we can work towards being as helpful as BR, JL & others have been.

Hugz,
L.