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Masonry? As in 'club'?

Are you saying he is at a conference by choice, not by job requirement?

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I just read your other thread.

You are enabling his behavior.

If you want a real marriage you need to set boundries.

If you like being walked on then continue coming here and complaining and do nothing about it.

If you want things to change then YOU take the first steps.

First, and without warning, expose his affair to everyone.

Second, don't let him come home.

Third, demand he leave the Masons. At least until he begins to show some changes in your marriage.

STOP being his doormat!!!!

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Who's more important you or Freemasonry?

That's not enough exposure.

What about his parents, siblings, your parents?

Until you respect yourself, don't expect him to respect you.

You are acting like a doormat.

You are defending his behavior right here in your post. Who give's a sh*t if he's been a mason since 15!?!? Screw that!

Has he been a husband? Father? No but he's a mason!

God it pisses me off to see people who have been treated like crap defend those who treat them that way! Kids do that! Not adults! Kick his asss to the curb and make him WANT to change!

No matter how long you are involved in a club, it's still just a club.

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If he gets so angry about not being a Mason that he refuses to reconcile, you're better of without him, anyway.

See how he likes sending you a large chunk of his paycheck every month for child support and/or alimony.

If 'lodge' is more important to him then let him go.

No M partner should come second to a damn club!

Where did the OW come from? Wasn't she the GF of one of the other masons? Have you found her parents? Siblings? Use his money to pay for a PI to get as many contacts as possible. Then kick him out and Plan B til he realizes what he gave up.

It's more than a club.

It's an occult.

You need to expose to everyone you can.

And I mean everyone.

And then go to Plan B immediately.

Do you know what a PBL looks like?

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I don't really want to start a debate here, but do you realize the true purpose of the freemasons (at least at the top levels) is to destroy Christianity?

Why don't you google the term fremasonary and find out the truth for yourself. It is actually a very devious organization, in that most lower levels are not even remotely aware of it's true purpose.

All Blessings,
Jerry

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OKAY,
You say that he has agreed to no contact, right? If I remember correctly, he sent some sort of no contact letter that you did not get to look at, but that he sent on an e-mail account that was private. Then, he cancelled out that account--right?? I just hope that I am not mixing up your sitch with someone else. You are able to monitor his phone and have a key logger on the home computer?? I can't remember...

Anyway, it seems as though you feel reasonably confident that he has no contact with the OW. If you are really certain that there is no contact, then exposure is not the issue here. You would complete more exposure if you find that he is lying to you and that contact really is ongoing. It sounds as though he is allowing you to check up on him in any way that there could be possible contact...Is that correct? If there is any way that he is not allowing you to check up on him to ensure no contact, that is a big red flag that contact continues.

It seems also that the way he got himself into this mess is with his extremely independent behavior and lack of use of policy of joint agreement. I think it is good that the two of you go over the material on this site and complete the emotional needs questionnaire. The two of you should look carefully at independent behavior and policy of joint agreement.

Why are you considering kicking him out? Do you want to re-build your marriage? It is difficult to re-build a marriage when the two of you live apart. It sounds like you need to establish boundaries regarding priorities in the marriage. For him to be so involved in these organizations at this time within the marriage with two young children and minimal extended family support seems very unrealistic--or at least that is what I am hearing you say. If this is the case, some choices have to be made. He is negotiating regarding the Jesters. If you want him to stop that activity, I would encourage you to stand your ground and request that he turn in his membership to that organization. Why would he keep the membership if he agrees he will not attend? Makes no sense, except that he is angling to be able to attend.

Hi there,

It is distressing that you are avoiding facing the truth about the Freemason cult. Before you can save your marriage, you must face these truths about what your husband is involved in.

I know you do not want to know this but:

http://www.atheists.org/Atheism/roots/enlightenment/

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http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/006/freemasons.htm

I have to politely disagree.

Freemasonry REQUIRES that a man put his primary committment to the MAsons, not a wife or family. Since it is an occult, evil only can come of it. That is why you guys are broke, he is having an affair, and he spends his time and money going to the Masons and particiating there rather than with you and the kids.

They teach a man to nearly reject thier family and hold to their committment with the mason group.

I feel certain that your husband is now so brainwashed it would be impossible for him to break away.

Want to see what a pull this mason group has on him?

Ask him to quit the group and then see his pain and agony. I know he would rather reject you and the kids rather than his precious group (cult)

You are not yet seeing clearly how this masonic group affects him. If you do not start to see this, you will not be able to save your marriage effectively. It is sad.

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