Okay, so WH gets in a fight with OW and moves out so to speak. The day B4 he did he asks me if I would consider a "fresh start" once the divorce is fianl.

I told him to even consider dating him he would have to agree to NC with OW.

Then I find out that his car was at her place. I asked him about it and he said he was just stopping by to make her a payment towards $ he owes her !

Okay, past the fact that he owes me like FOUR GRAND in back child support and $ towards back mortgage payments THROUGH A COURT ORDER - he's giving money to his so-called EX girlfriend!

He said that she wasn't home so he just taped the $ to the door. LIE !
When I told him the person I knew was outside for a long time and he never came out then he says he did have a key and went inside to leave her a payment and leave her his key.

Yeah, right.

Then guess where his car was at 6 am this morning?????

Yep.

First he denied it saying that a lot of people drive red cars.
Then when I convinced him that we knew it was his car he says:
Now get this ---------


HE WAS SLEEPING IN HIS CAR IN FRONT OF HER APARTMENT !!!!


( OH MY FREAKIN' WORD !)

Then I said - No, you weren't in the car.

He says - (Oh I can't even type this with a straight face)

WELL MY FRIEND MUST'VE LOOKED IN HIS CAR RIGHT AFTER HE HAD LEFT TO GO TO THE STORE TO BUY SOMETHING TO EAT FOR BREAKFAST !!!!!!!!!!!

How stupid does he think I am?

He really STINKS at lying, doesn't he?? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Hang in there. Don't let him twist things so much that you start believing the stuff. Just continue on with your plans. If he really gets serious about wanting to come back, you'll be able to tell.

Now is not that time...

(((tess))) Hugs to you.

You H sounds an awful lot my X. My X lied right to my face even with me standing in front of him with a tape recorder that I had placed in his car, recounting whole conversation with OW. He kept denying and denying even though I repeated his entire lunch hour conversation, still didnt admit until I pushed the play button. I caught him hundreds of times, blatantly in lies and he continued to deny until he could no more, it was sick

Psychologist called my X a psychopath. I didnt realize that that was an actual medical diagnosis until I took an abnormal psych class this past year. What I read in my textbook terrified me as line after line the text described my X. I am so fortunate to be out of that situation and you should be looking forward to a new life also without your husband

good luck, Ill check back again tomorrow
Smiles,
Dawn

[color:"red"]Hugs [/color] right back atcha LL!
I hope things are going okay with you. I know it's a daily struggle.

Hey Dawn, you know the funny thing? Today a girlfriend told me that she had looked up the definition of a psychopath and thought my husband fit it to a "T". Then I check back here and you say the same thing !

Seriously, that's pretty scary. I mean what does this mean regarding his influence on our son? I don't want Aron growing up with his tendancies.

I also just found out that his band had recently played VEGAS!

I kept wondering where the rest of the $ went that he took when he left. He told me initially that he put it down on an apartment. (LIE) The apt. had been Cheryl's long before he left. Then he said he used it on credit card payments. (LIE) I checked his account online. He only made minimum payments. (Were talking about a few grand.)

Well, a trip to vegas would explain it.

I will be SO PO'D IF I FIND OUT THAT HE PAYED CHERYL'S WAY TO GO!

I never even got a honeymoon.


I am so sad and pissed at the same time.

What a bummer for you to have to deal with this jerk. At least his lies are SO bad it's unlikely he'd be able to pull one over on you.

Hugs to you - be strong and stick to your guns. Sometimes you have to stop and ask who is sane and who is not... but you'll come up with the right answers!

Psychopath support group may be a good place to get support with dealing with your Psycopath.

WOW!! I'm sorry you have to deal with this. I had a very similar story with my STBX. So he was out late one night. I called and called. Called the office, too. Story was that he fell asleep at work. I said, I called the office, oh, well I went to my car and was sleepy, so slept there. I called your cell (he didn't believe me, so checked his phone and found the call). He mumbled something after that, but really I knew in that moment that I'd never hear the truth out of him.