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Posted By: RemorsefulWife How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 04:38 AM
I'm the one that had the affair. I was wrong and am very remorseful. Everyone that knows tells him that he'll be a fool for taking me back. Why would he want to go with someone (me) that made him feel horrible like this? What can I do to show him (and everyone that knows us) that he's not a fool? What can I do to (in his words) "make him whole"? Please help. I know I messed up the best thing in my life. Thanks.
Posted By: celticvoyager Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by CheatinWife
I'm the one that had the affair. I was wrong and am very remorseful. Everyone that knows tells him that he'll be a fool for taking me back. Why would he want to go with someone (me) that made him feel horrible like this? What can I do to show him (and everyone that knows us) that he's not a fool? What can I do to (in his words) "make him whole"? Please help. I know I messed up the best thing in my life. Thanks.

Have you completely ended your affair? How long ago was it? Who was it with (someone at work or a friend? etc..) There are lots of things you can do to change.
Posted By: RemorsefulWife Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 02:20 PM
The affair ended completely a little more than a year ago. It was someone from the gym.... that I no longer go to.

It's not what I can do to change. I know that my attitude was horrible during our marriage. My attitude will change and has changed for the better.

The DH needs to know that he's not being made a fool for taking me back. He needs to know that people that know us aren't going to be talking behind his back and saying that he's an idiot for letting me do this to him and then coming back.
Posted By: Jedi_Knight Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 02:27 PM
The best resource at this time is the book Surviving An Affair by Dr Willar d Harley.
It is a guidebook, for rebuilding a marriage after an affair.

One of the first things you should do is expose your affair to family and friends. Have you done so?
Do you have children? Did you expose to them?
Posted By: Jedi_Knight Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 02:30 PM
You registered here in 2012?
Posted By: celticvoyager Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
The best resource at this time is the book Surviving An Affair by Dr Willar d Harley.
It is a guidebook, for rebuilding a marriage after an affair.

One of the first things you should do is expose your affair to family and friends. Have you done so?
Do you have children? Did you expose to them?

Jedi is right. Exposure is the first step. What extraordinary precautions have you put in place to show him that you won't do this again? If you have done little or nothing in the way of EPs then you have not taken the step of rebuilding trust and showing you are serious. Also, have you and your husband written this person a no contact letter?
Posted By: MelodyLane Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 04:52 PM
Originally Posted by RemorsefulWife
The DH needs to know that he's not being made a fool for taking me back. He needs to know that people that know us aren't going to be talking behind his back and saying that he's an idiot for letting me do this to him and then coming back.

Your husband needs to do what is right for him and stop worrying about what other people think. It is his life, not theirs. Those other people won't suffer the consequences of his choices, after all. Its wonderful to come up with great "advice" when it's not your ox getting gored. The fact is that most people do not get divorced after an affair. If your husband wants to stay married, we can teach you both how to have a great marriage.

Please read this article as it explains how you can make just compensation to your husband: Can't We Just Forgive and Forget?
Posted By: MelodyLane Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 04:54 PM
Originally Posted by RemorsefulWife
The affair ended completely a little more than a year ago. It was someone from the gym.... that I no longer go to.

It's not what I can do to change. I know that my attitude was horrible during our marriage. My attitude will change and has changed for the better.

Are you separated now? When did your husband find out?

What you can do to change is to clean up your boundaries around other men. The issue was not your attitude, but your boundaries. That is how affairs happen.
Posted By: RemorsefulWife Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 05:31 PM
Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
You registered here in 2012?


That's when the affair first started.
Posted By: RemorsefulWife Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 05:49 PM
Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
One of the first things you should do is expose your affair to family and friends. Have you done so?
Do you have children? Did you expose to them?


It's been exposed. We have children but they are 10 and 8 so they don't know the entire story.
Posted By: RemorsefulWife Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 05:52 PM
Originally Posted by MelodyLane
Are you separated now? When did your husband find out?

What you can do to change is to clean up your boundaries around other men. The issue was not your attitude, but your boundaries. That is how affairs happen.


We are separated now. You're right, MelodyLane. It was my boundaries regarding other men. I'm close to 40 and hate to say it but I've learned my lesson. I've learned to define my boundaries and change my attitude.
Posted By: Gamma Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 06:13 PM
RW,

The affair ended completely a little more than a year ago. It was someone from the gym.... that I no longer go to.

Was the OM exposed to his W or GF, and to his job/church/family.

Do you still belong to a different gym?

Did you tell your BH the complete story or are you still hiding details?

God Bless
Gamma

Posted By: RemorsefulWife Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Gamma
RW,

The affair ended completely a little more than a year ago. It was someone from the gym.... that I no longer go to.

Was the OM exposed to his W or GF, and to his job/church/family.

Do you still belong to a different gym?

Did you tell your BH the complete story or are you still hiding details?

God Bless
Gamma


Hi Gamma,

I'm still new to I'm not too familiar with the abbreviations. I found that OM meant Offending Man. W is wife and GF is girlfriend. BH is Betrayed Husband (?).

OM didn't have a W or a GF. Doesn't work, doesn't go to church, doesn't have a family. Yeah, real winner that I chose!! *I'm being sarcastic*

BH knows everything. I don't have anything to hide anymore. I don't need to lie.
Posted By: MelodyLane Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 06:28 PM
Originally Posted by RemorsefulWife
Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
One of the first things you should do is expose your affair to family and friends. Have you done so?
Do you have children? Did you expose to them?


It's been exposed. We have children but they are 10 and 8 so they don't know the entire story.

Do they know about the affair and why your marriage has broken up?

Who left whom? Did your husband move out? Or did you? Who has the kids?
Posted By: RemorsefulWife Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 06:59 PM
Originally Posted by MelodyLane
Do they know about the affair and why your marriage has broken up?

Who left whom? Did your husband move out? Or did you? Who has the kids?


They do not know about why.

I left him. I moved out and the kids are in a joint situation between both of us.
Posted By: MelodyLane Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 07:16 PM
Did you move out to conduct your affair? How did you come to move out? And when was your last contact (of any kind) with the OM?

Will your husband allow you to move back?

And Dr Harley, clinical psychologist and founder of Marriage Builders does recommend telling children the truth. Giving them false explanations for the source of the problems causes enormous confusion and just teaches them that dishonesty is accepable.
Posted By: Jedi_Knight Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 08:06 PM
Originally Posted by RemorsefulWife
Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
You registered here in 2012?


That's when the affair first started.

Did your husband come here in 2012?
Im curious why you registered in 2012 while having an affair?
Posted By: markos Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
The best resource at this time is the book Surviving An Affair by Dr Willar d Harley.
It is a guidebook, for rebuilding a marriage after an affair.

This book is my main suggestion to you. If you have the older one, get the new revised edition that came out this year.

Dr. Harley's basic position, which he lays out early in the book, is that after being the victim of infidelity, he would not fault anyone for ending their marriage. But he does have a program for recovery, described in the book, and he encourages people to read through and consider his plan before making their decision. For couples where both husband and wife have followed the plan, the result has been not just marital recovery, but the happy marriage that they always wanted.

The book will lay out many things the two of you will need to do to make a happy marriage. In doing these things, you will be able to make compensation to your husband for the damage you did to your marriage. He will not come off looking like a fool - he will come out as a very happy married person.
Posted By: markos Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 08:46 PM
Originally Posted by RemorsefulWife
Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
One of the first things you should do is expose your affair to family and friends. Have you done so?
Do you have children? Did you expose to them?


It's been exposed. We have children but they are 10 and 8 so they don't know the entire story.

They don't need to know sexual details, but 8 and 10 are perfectly fine ages to know that they had an unfaithful parent. Tell them immediately. This will help your husband, and it is also good for them to know the truth.
Posted By: markos Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 08:46 PM
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Posted By: RemorsefulWife Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 09:04 PM
Originally Posted by MelodyLane
Did you move out to conduct your affair? How did you come to move out? And when was your last contact (of any kind) with the OM?

Will your husband allow you to move back?


I guess I did move out to conduct the affair. Last contact with OM was more than a year ago. OM's tried to contact me since by dialing me and then hanging up. But nothing.

DH will not allow me to move back....for right now, I think. He doesn't want to get hurt again. I can understand. We're taking things slowly.
Posted By: RemorsefulWife Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 09:06 PM
Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
Did your husband come here in 2012?
Im curious why you registered in 2012 while having an affair?


Registered in 2012 when we were starting to split up. I wasn't really active in the forums or reading through all the articles back then.
Posted By: RemorsefulWife Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 09:20 PM
Originally Posted by markos
This book is my main suggestion to you. If you have the older one, get the new revised edition that came out this year.

Dr. Harley's basic position, which he lays out early in the book, is that after being the victim of infidelity, he would not fault anyone for ending their marriage. But he does have a program for recovery, described in the book, and he encourages people to read through and consider his plan before making their decision. For couples where both husband and wife have followed the plan, the result has been not just marital recovery, but the happy marriage that they always wanted.

The book will lay out many things the two of you will need to do to make a happy marriage. In doing these things, you will be able to make compensation to your husband for the damage you did to your marriage. He will not come off looking like a fool - he will come out as a very happy married person.


Ordering the book now.
Posted By: MelodyLane Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 10:50 PM
RW, have you been completely honest with your husband about the affair? Have you been forthright about the fact that you moved out to have your affair? Does he know everything?
Posted By: markos Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 11:10 PM
Originally Posted by RemorsefulWife
Originally Posted by MelodyLane
Did you move out to conduct your affair? How did you come to move out? And when was your last contact (of any kind) with the OM?

Will your husband allow you to move back?


I guess I did move out to conduct the affair. Last contact with OM was more than a year ago. OM's tried to contact me since by dialing me and then hanging up. But nothing.

You will need to change your number to make it impossible for OM to contact you.
Posted By: RemorsefulWife Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 11:29 PM
Originally Posted by MelodyLane
RW, have you been completely honest with your husband about the affair? Have you been forthright about the fact that you moved out to have your affair? Does he know everything?


He knows everything.
Posted By: RemorsefulWife Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 11:32 PM
Originally Posted by markos
You will need to change your number to make it impossible for OM to contact you.


What I've done is blocked his number and any unknown numbers that he might use, as well as restricted numbers that don't show up on my caller ID. I can't be sure but OM is sure to get the message when he tries calling me and gets a reply "Calling restrictions put on this phone prevented the completion of this call"

If it does continue, I will change my number. I'm not attached to my phone number. Restoring what I had is more important.
Posted By: Jedi_Knight Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 11:33 PM
Your first step would be exposing your affair to family and friends, invluding your children
Posted By: Prisca Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 11:34 PM
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I'm not attached to my phone number. Restoring what I had is more important.
Then go ahead and change it.
Posted By: Jedi_Knight Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/22/13 11:36 PM
Secondly you should write a letter a no contact letter to your affair partner (as detailed in the book ) (others can post sample letter language If you request) and send it to the other man, copying his sigmificant other or wife and a copy to your husband.

Separately, include a letter of apology to your husband and tell him that you are willing to worlk with him to create a loving romantic marriage where both of your needs are met and that you have contacted MarriageBuilders.com for a plan if he is willing to consider this
Posted By: markos Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/23/13 02:39 AM
Originally Posted by RemorsefulWife
If it does continue, I will change my number. I'm not attached to my phone number. Restoring what I had is more important.

You can't know ahead of time if he continues or not.

If he borrows a phone you haven't blocked, and calls you, even if you hang up on him, it will be a pain and an offense to your husband.

You must eliminate the risk of that happening - not wait to see if it's okay to tolerate some risk.
Posted By: BrainHurts Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/23/13 03:37 AM
Here.
What is Just Compensation?
Posted By: BrainHurts Re: How does he not look like a fool? - 11/23/13 03:40 AM
Originally Posted by Dr Harley
My advice is to write a final letter in a way that the victimized spouse would agree to send it. It should begin with a statement of how selfish it was to cause those they loved so much pain, and while marital reconciliation cannot completely repay the offense, it's the right thing to do. A statement should be made about how much the unfaithful spouse cares about his spouse and family, and for their protection, has decided to completely end the relationship with the lover. He or she has promised never to see or communicate with the lover again in life, and asks the lover to respect that promise. Nothing should be said about how much the lover will be missed. After the letter is written, the victimized spouse should read and approve it before it is sent
here


[from SAA, pg 58]

OW, I want you to know that out of respect and love for my wife and children, I have come to realize that I must never see or talk to you again. My relationship with you was a cruel indulgence that BS did not deserve. While I cannot completely repay BS for the pain I caused her, I will do my best to become the husband she has been missing. I care a great deal for my family and I would not want to do anything to risk their happiness. I will not make any further contact with you and I do not want you to make any contact with me. Please respect my desire to end our relationship.

Sincerely, XXXXX
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