Originally Posted by markos
I don't think helping Hilltopper and his wife with guideline three of negotiation is likely to be very helpful until they both feel that they've gotten through guidelines one and two. Brainstorming is fairly easy, as is research. Making the discussion safe and understanding each other's point of view are harder, and are prerequisites before the brainstorming will be much use.

I totally understand her point of view. Baby has changed our lives and she is totally stressed. Having another child is NOT an option. That dominates her thinking as it pertains to SF. I have to do something, because at this pace nothing is gonna happen. Me going without my #1 EN isn't good for our marriage, and she would agree with this.

Married 15 years
12 y/o DD
10 y/o DS
6 y/o DD