H sells stuff on e-bay. Obviously there has been commuication. She uses my son's name in her e-mail sent to our family e-mail addy.

I am insensed. Appropriate action is already being taken.

Just wanted to let yout know that it may take a stronger method to get this ow out of MY life.

L.

<small>[ March 04, 2003, 11:07 PM: Message edited by: Orchid ]</small>

good grief

is she psycho or just psycho?

oh dear....

I don't care right now. This drill is what I have kept in my back pocket just in case.

......I hope you can see why she and anyone associated with her must be out of my life.

Gotta go and throw some stuff in plastic bags (the latest way a WS can travel).

L.

<small>[ March 04, 2003, 11:00 PM: Message edited by: Orchid ]</small>

Realize that it was sent by the nut for my benefit. I knew she couldn't keep her trap shut for long so if the H was turning back to the WS she would be the one to let me know.

(edited to protect the innocent - definitely not to protect PBR) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

<small>[ March 04, 2003, 11:05 PM: Message edited by: Orchid ]</small>

Good grief, Orchid! Can this be true or has she "nutted out" with her post on E-bay? This is too surreal....

Insanity!
Where in the world does someone pick up such misplaced and aberrant sense of entitlement?
Absolute insanity!

We SHOULD hook her up with "Brown Dwarf"!

PS; BTW, I'm a serious eBayer as well...4 years and counting!

<small>[ March 04, 2003, 09:04 PM: Message edited by: Spacecase ]</small>

Just wanted to clarify.....she evidently knew of the stuff we had on ebay....she sent her correspondence to our e-mail addy based on the auction info. What I don't know is if she bid on any items. I don't know what she goes by on e-bay. arrrgh..... see even normal internet stuff is tainted with this A crappola.

L.

Orchid, is this all in her head or is she seeing him again? She said "call me when you get back." Is there contact?

I think she is just trying to get to Orchid,
ow does this kind of thing all the time, she keeps calling my wife at work since she can't call our house. This is the something babble rabbit right? Psycho babble rabbit if I remember it right.

Hi ML,

Thanks for your concern. They have been in communication since she is aware of current events.

He called denying any PA but did not comment about EA. So I am not sure but just the fact that she knows current events is enough for me right now.

L.

OH,

Yep this is the infamous PBR......Maybe now some will understand why my tolerance towards OPs who advocate OPism gets a bit strong.

Thanks for posting.

L.

<small>[ March 04, 2003, 11:06 PM: Message edited by: Orchid ]</small>

Orchid,

I am so sorry that this nut keeps resurfacing in your lives! Is this something H was a part of or completely unknown to him? It does seem hard to imagine that H had absolutely nothing to do with the set up, doesn't it? Plus, he does not deny that they were in contact unbenowst to you. Does he not understand your boudaries or is he simply not respecting them? Argh!

Where are the 'packed' plastic bags going and what does H have to say about all this?

Hugs,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by OneDay:
<strong>Orchid,

I am so sorry that this nut keeps resurfacing in your lives! Is this something H was a part of or completely unknown to him? It does seem hard to imagine that H had absolutely nothing to do with the set up, doesn't it? Plus, he does not deny that they were in contact unbenowst to you. Does he not understand your boudaries or is he simply not respecting them? Argh!

Where are the 'packed' plastic bags going and what does H have to say about all this?

Hugs,</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hi OneDay,
Thanks for your support. Oh...WS (he earned this title back) knows about my boundaries. Unless he has forgetton how to speak and understand English - LOL!!!

The plastic bags are on the front porch. I have been known to deliver laundry bags to the OW's house. YIKES!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

He did not take the bags with him. He came back this evening and I did not want to let him in the house. He did come in but left. Said something about going to tell the OW off. See I get those 'cherished' pieces of mail when their A is bad. The point is I don't want to get ANY thing from the OW NOR deal with ANYONE who associates with her. So that includes the now WS.

I told him not to do anything stupid that was going to cause trouble for our family. He is in his dumb state of mind right now. You should have seen all she wrote.....YUCK. Point is they had contact EA/PA doesn't matter. Contact is contact. So he is out there and I don't expect him back. He knows this.

He also is aware that I posted this incident on MB. He read the first post. Not sure if he read more. Doesn't really matter. I want people to post what they need to say. Maybe it will do him some good. I certainly am not about to teach him anything!!!

He started to fog babble again. Boy it is good that I practiced this stuff. Was able to babble right back and show him how stupid it sounded. Difused his babble and left him in a huff. Better him in the huff than me. I actually did not feel as bad as before. Been through this 1 time to many. OW babbles also, she is a nutcase. It is probably that time of the month for her, she is quite cyclic in her episodes. I shouldn't have been surprised, I am just very hurt and angry that she nosed her way into my life again. I don't feel safe.

Another piece of crappy info.....she talked about moving to our town so they can see each other daily. I fixed that, he can go and live with her because he doesn't deserve to be with his family. Arrrgh..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

I am ok though. She claims she will cook for him because he 'doesn't eat well'. The last time he lived with her, he came back almost emaciated. The doctor said he was sickly looking and had lost a lot of weight (WS was always on the thinner side). That also made me angry.

I hated her bragging she would make him better and then when they got tired of each other, look who had to take care of him and help him be healthy again. Arrgh.... double arrgh....

No more. He can't be here for us, there is no reason why we should be here for him. Unconditional my foot, a family is dependent on the love and care of each member. WS are not exempt.

L.

Sorry to hear all this Orchid. But I think you are taking the only path you have at this point. As you know, you cannot make another adult do anything. So set yourself free.

This has all gone on too long. I know it takes a tole on your health.

Hugs to you Orchid....hey...got a couple spare rooms here...right around the corner from Waipahu!
T

<small>[ March 05, 2003, 02:59 PM: Message edited by: INDY_357 ]</small>

(((((((( Orchid ))))))))

I wasn't online last night, and didn't see this post until this morning. O, I am SO SORRY!!! <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" />

I was hoping that b/c you haven't been posting much about your own situation, it meant that things were going well. Obviously, that's not the case. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> (I did the same thing... I knew something wasn't right, but I wanted to stay in the "recovery" mindset, and help others, instead of dealing with my own gut feelings).

Either you're still in shock, or you've grown so much that this really isn't affecting you as much as you thought it might (or as much as it did in the past). I think it's the latter, thanks to knowing your boundaries, and more importantly, NOT backing down on them! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

I've misplaced your phone number... but if you email it to me, I would like to give you a call to touch base, and give you the chance to talk it out with yet another MBer. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

How is your son dealing with this? Does he know or understand what's going on? He has always been so acute in wording exactly what's going on, in the most simple way. sigh! Poor kid... he doesn't deserve this b.s. from his dad. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

Karen

dear orchid- i am so sorry to hear all this. i remember all to well how you were there for me in the beginning. you and red saved me. i wish i could do more than send prayers and hugs. stand strong and proud, you have been through soooo much. you have been so strong.

forget using Hefty bags.....

use the cheap-o no-name bag that rips .... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />