I briefly read Harudah's post, sounded bad. Sounds like you are paying for your fun night out today! I've had an on again off again thing about drinking over the years. I partied like everyone else when I was in the air force.I continued after I got out and woke up in jail on morning 11 years ago. I haven't been that drunk since. Now I have had 3-4 beers two or three nights a week,sometimes a six pack. That got on my WW's nerves.Said I was spending too much money on it. About every 4-6 months I would finish a six pack and finish off her bottle of wine in the fridge.That would really torque her off something awful.I coulda been doing that subconciously I think. So for the time being I have abstained from alcohol completely. Haven't drank in 2 months. Now I didn't think I had a problem, but it was. The money thing wasn't a problem. Since WW moved out and I took alllll the bills, I've got money coming out of my ears. I may have spent 50 bucks a month on beer that is it. Now I've got alot more than that to spend on myself. I let her run the checkbook, she said it gave her a feeling of accomplishment. She managed to cause us to live paycheck to paycheck.
I see that now. We have 2 checking accounts, every week I snoop and ask for a balance at the bank and she is still burning through the cash. Hmmmm..

Yes it is normal for siblings to fight. I was the middle kid of 3.A 5yr split between each. Older brother and younger sister. We were constanly fighting. The point at which it isn't normal is if they NEVER get along. My sis and I fought but we did have plenty of times we got along. My older brother was an s.o.b. we rarely played well together. That wasn't normal.

Believer was a big help for me a month ago, when I was first struggling. I still look forward to her replies.

Next month I'm going to Metallica/Godsmack two bands my WW and I really like. I bought tix for us all the while she knew she was leaving me. Last week she made it a point to ask me what section I was in and showed me in the phone book where it is.I then asked her where she will be, it is directly across from my seats on the other side of the pavillion. I asked one of the guys at work to go. But part of me wishes I had some really hot looking broad to take, so she could see. Cuz I know she'll be lookin'. Would it be wrong if I did that? Not that I know anyone to take that would go as a friend but would make WW jealous. In fact I don't know any single women. Not that I'm looking to have my own A.Because I'm still committed to my wife and this marriage. But it would be fun..

The boys do get along well, sometimes. They are only 12 months and 12 days apart, so in some ways that helps and in other ways it complicates. Having siblings yourself, I'm sure you know what I am talking about.

Obstaining from the hairy dog beast is a good move. I know that during the EA, I was drinking A LOT! I knew something was terribly wrong, but I didn't know what it was or how to "fix" it.

During the last month before D-day, I refused to drink. I felt I had to be totally sober so I could figure out what was going on. And I did.

After D-day, I longed for numbness, but I refused to let myself drink. I was afraid if I went into the bottle at that point that I would possibly have a problem getting out.

Finally, after having an entire day of screaming and beating the heck out of my bed, I realized I needed professional help. I got anti-d's and anti-anxiety meds from my doctor, and have felt so much better.

As far as the concert goes, I don't consider myself a hot broad (although I do like Metallica), and unfortunately I don't think it would be appropriate for us to meet and go in that manner. I think you honestly would be better off going with a guy friend.

You looking your best and living well is going to be your best revenge. Do not enroll into her thinking that another person will be able to "make you happy." That is what my WH is unable to see in his fogginess. I can't make him happy, and OW can't either. He has to learn how to do that for himself.

I will tell you my experience from last night. I posted on another thread about it already, but I will share with you, as I think it is relevant.

Last night, I almost got myself into trouble. I do look pretty good now, with the weight loss, and I have kept up my exercise and hair and all that. So, we were at this bar, and a man started shooting some pool with my girlfriend and I.

I blurted out my sad story, and he shared with me that his W left him for her best friend (a man) at her job. Did I tell you the OW in my case was my "best friend?" Of course, I now know that she never was a true friend, but I cannot tell you the things I do know about her now, as the language is not appropriate. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

So, we were attracted to each other, and we had this connection. And we danced all night, with all the girls, too, and nothing was inappropriate. Then I went outside to cool off, and he was there. He has a girlfriend, and I am married.

I am human, we were drunk, I am lonely, and it was so wonderful to be the center of someone's attention like that. To feel desired and wanted.

Anyway, to make a long story short, he kind-of started rationalizing how we deserved to be happy, blah blah blah. I told him all that sounded too much like what WH and OW said to me to justify the hurt they caused me and my kids. And that I couldn't betray anyone like that ever - neither his girlfriend, nor myself.

So, while I was in the restroom, he left. At first I was disappointed. I don't know why. I knew we couldn't do anything, that we were tempted, but I missed his attention, I guess.

This morning I am sooooo grateful he left. I was even grateful at 3 am while we were eating at Shari's - where we almost got kicked out, by the way. I think my girlfriends and I are just too much fun for some people to take at 3 am. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

So, that is my story. That is why I say take a guy with you for sure. You don't want to get into a situation where you are tempted, maybe too much, to betray what you believe in. It is easy to do. So easy. We have been betrayed, hurt, lied to, humiliated, ditched, ignored, told we are not loved anymore, think our WS are going to D us anyway.

That is what I learned last night. The slope is slippery, indeed. Have you read Torn Asunder? I love that book. It talks of slippery slopes. Friendships becoming more - slippery slopes.

I'm not implying you were trying to ask me to go. I just thought I would cover that ground, as I am a woman and you are a man. Absolute, brutal honesty, right?

I am imagining you with a horrible comb-over, pot belly, nasty teeth, and plummer's butt hanging out the back - just so I am not tempted. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Chat at you later. Amy

Amy - you are too much. What a bad girl. But I know exactly how you feel. It is so devastating to be left, that if anyone gives you some attention, it feels sooooooo good. That is why we need to avoid situations that make us vulnerable.

Brett - go to the concert and have fun. Don't add fuel to the fire by making wife jealous. It would probably feel good, but will not make the situation any better. You will have plenty of time for "hot broads" later, if this does not work out. But let's hope it does.

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I am a bad girl! And I am too much!

How stupid is my WH???

Amy

Right, think of me as a hillbilly from the hills of tennessee.I only have one tooth, that is why I have a tooth-brush and not a teeth-brush.I'm balding,one leg is shorter than the other and I have a glass eye. It is best I avoid situations that would lead to temptation you gals are correct. No SF for 3months now I would probably do the wrong thing.

Glad to hear your night didn't leave you with regret amy. It's my weekend and I got some projects laid out.Some is weather dependent and the forecast doesn't look good.Talk at ya...

Yeah, I need to get my head out of these boards and get some of my work done here at home and with my business(s). I'm getting behind.

I usually use this site as my reward system for doing work. But yesterday with the Harudah crisis - which is continuing, btw - and Saturday just shopping and hanging with the girlfriends . .

I did run my dishwasher, and I did a load of laundry last night, but this morning I realized that my kitchen floor is pretty scary, and I need to vacuum, and invoice people, and do statements, and blah blah blah.

So, I will be blah blahing myself today. I'll check in periodically, because I am addicted. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Later! Amy

Brett- Sounds good to me. Which tooth do you have?

One back molar!

Off to the gym.

I'm finally off to buy groceries and cook.

I would have been interested if you had one of your canine teeth left, but with just one molar, I cannot do it.

Sorry. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

Amy <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Awwww, gummer! I mean bummer!

The gym workout felt great, last mile on the treadmill @5:37.

Have great day.

You guys have got to quit this. I'm at work and keep laughing so hard everyone will think I'm crazy.

Hey unitooth. How has your evening been? Mine sucked a**. Read my General Questions II post to ARK regarding my kids.

I have been set back emotionally today. Tonight. I am wondering why I would want to be with somebody who is cruel enough to make his family suffer through that crap for his own personal gratification of a sick need. Ug.

I think I will go to bed. I am all done for the day. Stick a fork in me, I'm done.

Amy

Sorry to hear you're evening was lousy.Hopefully the sun will shine and burn off that fog that has rolled in someday soon. Mine was o.k. I rented Open Range w/K.Costner. It was slow but I like westerns.

I spent the afternoon working on WW's blazer,fixing an oil leak. I had to take the oil pan off,again, and replace the rear main seal in my driveway. I bought a double cd set of Stevie Ray Vaughn's music, I had it cranked up all afternoon. I imagine all the neighbors out for their evening walk must shake their heads after they walk on by. Hey, good thing I wasn't really rockin'.

Brett -

Sounds like you are doing well. Hope you get the oil leak fixed this time.

We will believe that the fog will wear off soon. All of this is very draining.

Yeah, sorry to have had such a downer post last night. I was having a pity party.

I think that after my second cup of coffee I will be good today. I have a busy day.

I have to take my mom to the dentist. She lives in a nursing home here in Meridian. She has MS and brain damage. She is only 53. Sad story.

BUT, she cracks me up. Laugh or cry.

Then, I have a doctor's appointment for her to review my meds. I think they are doing good. I should tell her she is definately not giving my WH enough of whatever he needs! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Anyway, I am slowly coming up out of my funk. I am definately not going to anymore ceremonies with the OW-who-has-no-shame again.

I guess I should just be happy she wasn't running around my neighborhood nekked. Huh, Believer? I would love to hear that story.

Craziness. Now we all have flat butts and crazy WS's. What is the world coming to? Except Brett. If you have plummer's butt, and uneven legs, can your butt go flat???

Chat at you later. I'm going to go get inspired somewhere. I heard the God post from MOB or something was good yesterday. I'm going to go check it out. If I can find it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Hugs, Amy

Finished up the big job on WW's blazer. Looks like 98% of the leaks are gone.It's a 20yr. old chevy it is gonna leak.

WW called this a.m. a family friend passed away and she is going to send a card. I told her if it wasn't too awkward to sign my name to it. She said not a problem, she would. Her boss was there so she couldn't talk long. Nothing else of importance.

I'll probably take the blazer for a spin today. To make sure there aren't any more big puddles of oil. There is still work to be done on it. Oh I almost forgot.Good thing I was under the blazer working on it today.A misrouted wire for the trailer lights plug was grounded out on the frame and started smoking. I had to disconnect the battery, like quick. She won't be towing any trailers so I cut the wires off at the plug. So WW won't have any wiring fires.

Don't know about plumbers butt. I do have cold concrete,rainy driveway butt today.

Late lunch is waiting.Yak at ya later.

Hmmmm, sizzling wires. Now, would that just sting, or could it kill? And how hard is it to make that look like an accident - I mean, er, how often do those types of accidents happen?

To say, men who have cheated on their wives and abandoned their families and forced them all to go to Scouting functions with the Home Wreckers?

I have a friend who would like to know. You don't know her. Er, I mean, him.

Let's just keep this between you and me, K?

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Amy, Amy... Tell your little friend she is getting badder and badder by the day. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

Believer -

Honestly, if I had any idea whatsoever of what you are speaking, I could possibly comply.

But as it is . . . I cannot help you, I am sorry.

Perhaps you posted on the wrong thread by mistake? Hm?

Hugs, Amy <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap!!!