I haven't heard from WS in 2-3 weeks. He's in jail for DWI. Well, OW had OC a week ago. Before then he wanted me to visit him, said he realized he still loved me when I stayed by his side while he was in the hsopital, etc.. OW went to see him alone (WS's parents always went along) a week ago and all of a sudden he doesn't want to see me anymore. Even tried to take me off his visiting list but couldn't. Said he's so in love with OW. He said OW and I decided all the visits were going to be for her and the kids (hers and OC) and no one else. More or less OW told WS how it was going to be. Mind you I didn't hear this from him, just his parents. So I don't know what to do. I have been trying Plan A like crazy. So, if WS wants NC is there still hope? No one likes OW at all, they are just nice because of supposed OC. Is WS still in the fog? God, I hope so!
BTW, I sent WS a short note that said, "I heard you are a father. I know how much you've always wanted a little girl." Just added a few short comments about other stuff and just signed my name. I haven't heard anything. This was after I got the message from his parents.

<small>[ June 28, 2004, 08:22 PM: Message edited by: Cyn1018 ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Mind you I didn't hear this from him, just his parents. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Why do you believe it?

I'd stay in Plan A until he tells you himself he wants NC.

I think you should also figure out how you're going to react if he requests NC. You should leave a clear path home for him, or set your boundaries, or quit working on the M - just figure out exactly how you're going to respond.

I believe it because there has been so much of the same behavior over the past year and a half. WS wants to get back together, then he doesn't. All OW has to do is threaten him and he does whatever she wants. I don't know how to respond if he wants NC. OW is doing all the major LB's yet WS is still with her. I don't get it. Now OC is in the picture. Last night WS's father told me he doesn't know if he can ever accept OC as his granddaughter. He said he didn't believe WS was being truthful about things. And also that he disliked OW. This whole situation has been a nightmare!

Hi Cyn,

Do what you feel in your heart. He has showed this back and forth. Perhaps he does not mean what he says. I think he is still in the fog and is reacting to OW's threats. He cannot see her for what she truly is because she is lying her [censored] off.

Yeah she's good at lying and manipulating the situation. Uses whatever she can to get what she wants. She is so selfish. WS has to be in the fog. Not one person who has met her has liked her. Only WS does. Maybe that's why she wants him so bad, because no one else would want her!

Still haven't heard from WS. Has OW won because now she has OC? If there truly is NC on WS's part then what?