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This will be my last post regarding my relationship with OW. There is no need to reply.
My legal case is over and I am on probation. My judge has required that I post this final message.
I apologize to OW, or anyone else for that matter, who was offended, alarmed or disturbed by any of my previous posts.
Love can cause people to do odd things. I recognize that I was not able to appropriately deal with the aftermath of the relationship. I am seeking licensed professional help for these issues.
I wish all of you the best in your lives.
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OMG, I am totally floored! I never put two and two together. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />
Well WK, if it hadn't been for YOU I would have merely lurked on MB into eternity I'm sure.
I understand the court mandated posts, make sure to get the help you need to get over this fiasco ok? Once you do hopefully you can turn your attention to your wife and marriage as you should. Best wishes to you and your wife, WhiteKnight. KB
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Sorry to see you go (under BOTH your aliases).
I actually enjoyed and gained insight from your "White Knight" persona. (so thanks for that) Your responses gave me much to ponder and consider. I usually tend to like any, what I believe to be ... honest WS.
However, I will state that I am not happy with you "editing" your posts (especially so far after the fact). Not cool with that move at all ....(from YOU or anyone else for that matter).
In any case, be happy its all over and stay out of any further trouble. Good luck dude.
Knew better: I didn't know either. Surprise!! I read the posts from WK, but not this batout of hell character. Guess you just never know, huh?
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Top, He only posted as BOH in the begining, I think. Such a horrific story that has now reached it's conclusion as far as OW goes. (I hope!)
WK, I forgot to say that I also appreciated your honesty, it was painful for BSs at times I know, but sometimes pain is neccesary for growth. You had kind of a steep learning curve yourself! I hope that when you are more able to focus on the task of rebuilding you'll come back and work it out here. We'd love to share in your success. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> KB
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What's he apologizing to the OW for? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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WK,
I remember bits and pieces of your situation, and I think I might have posted to you once or twice (although I will admit that I suffer from CRS--can't remember sh**). Just wanted to tell you that I hope things are better for you, and wish you the best! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
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Orchid, I'm just guessing here but it looks from the way he's posting the same thing in multiple posts on the SAME board that it is part of the court order. I don't get the impression he really wanted to. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> Maybe whoever checks up on him will tell us, Lol.
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Love?? The relationship with the OW was never about love...I hope he works that out with professional help.
After some of WK's, BOH's posts about the OW I had a feeling that maybe his view of what he was doing and hers were way different. Well Obviously their opinions were different...hence probation.
Court ordered or not the forced apology is ridiculous and an affront the BS.
WK's wife is the injured party here. (What a Justice System!)
To the OW in this matter: You surrendered a certain level of respect when you knowingly became the OW. You are apparently aware of this site since the court mandated this post. Hopefully you will recognize your culpability in this drama and make amends in your life.
ayslyne <small>[ August 20, 2004, 04:25 PM: Message edited by: ayslyne ]</small>
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">From ayslyne: WK's wife is the injured party here. (What a Justice System!)
To the OW in this matter: You surrendered a certain level of respect when you knowingly became the OW. You are apparently aware of this site since the court mandated this post. Hopefully you will recognize your culpability in this drama and make amends in your life.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">ayslyne: <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
Nicely said. I concur. Hopes she Reads it.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ayslyne: <strong>Court ordered or not the forced apology is ridiculous and an affront the BS. WK's wife is the injured party here. (What a Justice System!)ayslyne </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">To clarify Ayslyne, the criminial activities of WhiteKnight towards the OW are what he is on probation for and the reason he is required by court order to apologize to the OW (and not the BS) on this forum.
This criminal case was not about the BS. It was about WK's behavior towards OW. Because he vented at length about the OW on this particular forum, the apology was required here.
The judge may have been hoping to teach him a lesson about LEAVING OTHER PEOPLE ALONE when asked. Entirely appropriate and certainly not a travesty of justice if he didn't back off from OW when asked.
No woman, OW or not deserves to be stalked, period.
The purpose of his post was to comply with the court order and he has. Apologising to the BS as necessary as it is, has nothing to do with the criminal case, and is beyond the judge's scope.
His AFFAIR and the following behavior toward OW was the actual affront to the BS, not the court ordered apology to the victim of a crime, do you see the difference? KB
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Court ordered apology....... done. But what will it accomplish?
Will BOFH, WK or any other WS learn NOT to be abusive, stalking, etc???? Will the OW learn her lesson and find another lifestyle so she is NOT the accomplice in the abusive actions of hurting a BS and family?
If none of the above is accomplished, the court order apology IMHO, satisfies only the court. Justice will not be served, just tax payers $$ spent because of the selfish actions of a WS and OP. If these 2 do it again and again, no lesson is learned but I pity any families associated with those 2.
If lessons are learned by both sides or even 1 side, then there is value to this exercise.
Sure hope the later turns out t/b true. Hope between the 2 of them, at least 1 of them (ws/op), gets their act together.
I can speak from experience, the judges are limited in their ability to pass true justice. OPs and WS' can go into a courtroom and do a job on manipulating the judge and jury...... even if the audience can see plain as day that the OP is wrong, the judge/jury maybe forced to render the most legal but illogical verdict.
JMHO, L.
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Weird, weird and just plain weird...
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Did I miss something? How did the judge even know that he posted stuff here? And how would his OW even know about it unless she were here? Anyone know?
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I have felt uneasy about his postings for awhile. There is always 2 sides to the story...and we only got his...which is about 50% true in most cases.
Unless someone "knows" this person IRL...and has witnessed what has transpired I don't think that we can "know" that what he says is gospel.
I think that there was more to it than he was giving up in his posts.
I really think that it wasn't as all cut and dried as he said. I don't think he was saving a damsel, as his name implied..."white knight".
I think he was still contributing something to that charade.
Just call me cynical. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />
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ditto, committed. I think you nailed it, as usual.
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To me this clarifies we are dealing with someone who never told the truth. Pay close attention to WK's posts below.
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posted March 25, 2004 09:59 AMMarch 25, 2004 09:59 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bat,do you also post as whiteknight on General Questions II? Your situations are very similar. -pendragon
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by whiteknight: I have been reading a lot of very sad posts about how how awful a lot of Ws feel about themselves if and when they discover that the OW is considered more attractive than they are.
I have been struggling with a problem since I broke off the relationship with the OW and I am ashamed at how shallow I have been, and maybe still am. You see, My W is wonderful. She has every good quality any man could want in a W, even though she is far from perfect. But I am sometimes obsessed with how absolutely beautiful the the OW was / is. Not just in my eyes, but anyone who would see her would agree. Beautiful hair, face and body, great smile. She can stop traffic. When I was with her in public we were stared at. I felt like the luckiest man in the world. My ego was through the roof. I think about her a lot. I want to stop thinking about her; but I can't. She is in my thoughts day and night. I constanty think about how beautiful she is. I hate it. I feel like a shallow pig. I wish someone would punch me in the face cometimes. My W deserves better than me.
But here's the reason for this post. The OW is beautiful. She always has been and always will be. BUT I broke up with her for the following reasons --- she is emotionally unstable. She is mentally unbalanced. She is a compulsive liar. She is 31, has 2 kids who she hits, and remains in a loveless and affectionaless marriage with a man who is abusive. She never got an education. She has a box of rocks in her head. She is a loser. Her whole life in 1 big game of denial. She smiles even though she is falling to pieces inside. She never did anything to advance herself except trying to be a model / actress. Her "career" never took off and never will. All she does are stupid student films for the University of Miami students. She used to work at Hooters and went home with a big, black basketball player who was sucking her neck when she woke up the next morning. Since she was 18, she has repeatedly posed naked for other men in a desperate attempt to get attention. There are nude photos of her on the internet. She gave me genital warts. She had sex with 11 guys before she got married at 21. When I broke off the A, she turned on me like a vindictive animal. She has been trying to file false police reports on me and is trying to sue me for "emotional distress." She talks to her real father about sex. She used to talk to him while I was with her, and she would tell him how much she liked giving me oral sex. I guess she did that in a desperate attempt to get attention from him. She used to take rags to wipe her genitals after we had sex to keep the semen from dripping out. One time she accidentally used my shirt and got a huge stain on it. She called her father and told her the story. She thought it was the funniest thing in the world. He dd too. Does anyone know of another girl who would talk to their father about her husband having anal sex with her?
Yes, she is beautiful. Anyone who would look at her would think she's got the perfect life. But she doesn't. She is dead inside. She is filled with so much hatred and bitterness and jelousy and envy and has such low-self-esteem that she is not a prize for anyone. She is a loser.
It hurts me to say all this. I am not saying it to make myself feel better. I wish I could look back on my life and think I made all the right decisions. At one time she was very special to me, and I told her I loved her, and I believed her when she told me she loved me. I wish we could have had special memories and went on our seperate ways; but when I broke it off, the real person she was bubbled to the surface. Actually, I guess I knew it all along, but I was looking past it because I was blinded by her beauty. That was a mistake.
Unfortunatley, good looking people get a lot of "free passes" in life ... and no one ever sat down with her and straightened her out. I tried but I failed. I went from being her best friend to her worst enemy. I wish I could sit down with her for 5 minutes and find out how and why turned into the monster she is ... but how do you rationalize mentall illness?
So, ladies, don't worry what the OW looked like. I bet my life she was no where close to being as beutiful as my OW was ... but I betchya anything she probably has as much ugliness inside of her as my OW did.
I am glad it's over. A strong relationship composed of two people determined to build a life together is worth a hell of a lot more than a 10 month affair with a pretty face and body. In the end, those things have no value at all.
Sorry this was not too articulate, but I am tired from a long day and I wanted to say something on this subject.
Based on the posts I've read, the sad Ws out there have more beauty inside them than any pretty OW ever could home for.
Best of luck to you all! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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posted March 25, 2004 10:56 PMMarch 25, 2004 10:56 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nope; but i have e-mailed with Bat. We even joked that we were with the same OW! I guess there's just a lot of kooky-gals out there. it is sad. I have learned so much on this site; hwoever. Mainly that my A was not that original, my situation was not that original, and everything I am going through right now is not that unique. I have read a lot of posts on this site that are similiar. I guess that's just the way it is. We all like to think our situation in like none other; but it's just not true.
-------------------- WS (30) ME BS (30) A began 11/02. I ended A 11/03. OW was devastated. OW and her H have caused legal problems for me in hopes of destroying my life and business. W does not yet know about A.
e-mail me directly at WHITEKNIGHTMB30@YAHOO.COM
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posted March 25, 2004 11:28 PMMarch 25, 2004 11:28 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- pendragon --- I already responded to your Q that you put up in reply to my POST in GQ, and then I jumped over here to refresh myself about BAT, and saw the above post answered everything for me. Basically ... no one's story is really original. I've read so many stories about the OM and the OW and how the S reacts ... we're all human. We just think we're unique, but are stories are similar. It would be great for my ego to think I am the geatest lover in the world and had the most beautiful girl in the world, and the geatest sex in the world, and found my soulmate, and a wonderful new life and love; but it just wouldn't be true.
Oh, and I'm married. Bat was more the OM who felt betrayed because his A was with a married woman who he felt should have left her abusive husband. I'm just a regular jerk who cheated on a nice, honest wonderful girl who had no interest in sex. I guess all us jerks sound alike. Sorry my story isn't more interesting.
Hey, Bat, were are you, man? Sorry for stealing some of your thunder --- and perhaps your OW's evil twin sister! This should help you too. No offense, but this should prove to you that your OW wasn't that great. They're a dime a dozen!
-------------------- WS (30) ME BS (30) A began 11/02. I ended A 11/03. OW was devastated. OW and her H have caused legal problems for me in hopes of destroying my life and business. W does not yet know about A.
e-mail me directly at WHITEKNIGHTMB30@YAHOO.COM
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Spooky and a little unnerving. Thanks BoardMember
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Betrayed: I found it very spooky as well. It now makes me question which story is true. Did he even have a W at all? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />
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Anyone heard from Peaceandlove lately? She seemed to be friendly with "Whiteknight AKA Batoutofhell"
Scary isn't even the word.
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The whole situation is so disgusting that it makes you say "Ewww" out loud. Creepy doesn't begin to express how vile it is. Reminds me of a cheap trash novel about severe mental illness. What creates monsters like that?
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