(Spying 101): This should get you started.

1. The Keylogger: Primarily used for tracking Internet activity, email, web chat.There are two kinds of keyloggers that I am aware of software, and hardware.
The software logger: : Is a program that silently runs on a computer recording screen shots, emails sent and received, webchat, etc. This will work 95% of the time. Only downside to software is it can be detected by other anti-spy software, and/or the real computer geek, or someone that suspects they are being monitored. ($100.00)

Harware logger : This little device connects at the back of you computer in-line with you keyboard usb or ps2 plug. This device simply records the keystrokes from your keyboard only. This will get you less information than the software version, but will not be detected by software. Can be physically seen if you spend time looking at the back of your computer. ($50.00 – 70.00)

Audio recorders: 2 types: cassette or digital. Only real advantage the cassette has over digital would be cost, and capability to run longer. Due to the fact the digitals are typically small. The batteries are also small (1 or 2 AAA). Result limited amout of audio before the battery dies.

If you are recording in a fixed location like a house phone, the cheaper radioshack cassette recorder will work great. Go to radioshack and purchase a handheld recorder MUST HAVE VOICE ACTIVATED RECORDING. ($30.00)

A phone splitter: little plastic thing that goes in the phone outlet allowing more than one device to be attached to the wall. ($2.00)

2-6 foot phone cord.

1 or 2 cassette tapes 120 min or 180 min long. ($5.00)

Phone recording jack: Little device that allows the phone cord to connect to the microphone of the recorder. ($5.00)

Once you have this. Find the most inconspicuous place to connect to the phone system. I.E. behind a bed, under a desk, etc…

Connect the wall splitter to the wall (now you have 2 jacks to connect to) If you have a phone connected there re-connect it. Also connect your extra piece of phone cord to the other remaining available wall jack.

Here is where I chose to get a box. In the box goes the remaining:

Connect the other end of the phone cord to the input of the phone recording jack.

Now connect the headphone type plug on the phone recoding jack to the recorder.

Plug in the audio cassette, turn on the recorder, set it for voice activation. TURN THE VOLUME ALL THE WAY DOWN.

Now whenever you receive or make a phone call (From any phone at the same number that outlet is associated with) will be recorded.

KEEP IN MIND YOU CAN ALSO DO THIS WITH A DIGITAL RECORDER.

Just watch those batteries.

Recording in the car.

You will want a small digital recorder for this one. Again something that is voice activated is a must. Some of these come with a microphone, and they will work best, but not a requirement.

The most important thing with recording in the car is trying to get the recorder closest to the driver as possible and remaining concealed. This is why the recorder that comes with a very small microphone works best. You can hide the recorder, and keep the microphone out enough to pick up audio.

My recommendation for set up: If you have an external microphone. Velcro the recorder under the dash below the steering column. Run the mic wire up the steering column as close to the driver as you can without giving it’s location away.

If you do not have and external mic. Tape or fix to the underside of the driver seat (Microphone facing down, and as close to the center of the car as you can.

Again make sure voice activation is on, and volume and audible warnings are OFF!



GPS (global positioning system): Used to track vehicle’s location by referencing multiple satellites. 2 main types of GPS units available are recorders and real time. Both mount to the vehicle typically by magnet.

Recorded GPS : This is the cheaper of the 2, and will recorded location in timed intervals, and must be connected to a computer after use for data download. Software will pull the location and time off the GPS unit, and show you on a map where and when the car’s movement.

Real Time GPS : This unit cost more, and may require an internet access fee to access the Real Time location of the GPS unit via the internet. Very Cool, but also abit pricey!

Other options:

Don’t want to deal with any of this? Consider a private investigator.

Got Nextel? You can install free software, and locate a lot of these phones via the internet real time! http://www.accutracking.com/

This should be enough to get you pointed in the right direction, and commonly used devices available.

Cover your tracks when purchasing any of these items. If possible have a friend purchase, and pay them with cash!

Good thread!

An addition to the info about software keyloggers. You can easily disable anti-spyware software by running it and then selecting "ignore"in relation to the spyware. It will then ignore it in the future.

One that I have used in the past is actmon @ www.actmon.com. It runs about $40 and will send email reports. Very simple to use and runs invisibly.

www.peoplefinder.com can be an excellent source for finding parents, spouses, names. It is a free service but you can pay more to get more information.

Thanks ML,

Also for those who feel they have good info. Feel free to jump in with experience and links that will save others time with research. Phone Number hunting, Reverse look ups, Cell phone records, etc...

I have used US Search for reverse phone number lookups, each time it cost $15.

Cell phone records may be found simply by setting up an online account and looking at the bill.

The Nextel tracking software is free? Could I get more info from someone on this one?

Instead of a PI...sometimes you can get away with having a trusted friend that your WS doesn't know do the legwork. Posting them by the OP's house, or at work during lunch, etc... Additionally, having THEM place a call to an untrusted phone number from a pay phone or their cell works nicely as well. Often the OP will know the home phone...but not think about a call from some 3rd party. Have a good line of bull-stuffing set up, and they can actually learn a lot about the OP. Have them pose as a marketer who promises some silly prize for taking a survey...and then at the end of the 'survey' get their contact information so that the "prize" can be sent.

You can also do this for free on www.anywho.com

Just a thought. I know there are "kits" out there to test garments, etc., for the presence of...uh...male biological material, let's say. I don't know if this suggestion is appropriate in your thread, but it came to mind. I don't know a source for one of these test kits right now so if anyone out there does, please post. I'll be researching.

If this isn't appropriate, JKT, just let me know and I'll delete it.

LH, good suggestion about the semen testing kit. It is very effective in testing for semen on women's panties. I have the link at home and will post it.

Edited to add link: http://www.getcheckmate.com/

GPS tracking of Nextel phone's.

I apologize, the link in the initial thread for tracking a Nextel phone is for an option that is not available until this fall.

The following link looks to be in works currently.
http://www.accutracking.com/

I will edit the inital post to avoid confusion.

JKT

Longhorn, Thanks for the post. That is exactly the type of information this tread was designed for.

Thanks. I wasn't sure. And you saw where Melody already had the specifics, I'm sure.

How about some books on the subject:

Cheaters: 180 Telltale Signs Mates are Cheating and How to Catch Them by Raymond B. Green (2003 New Horizon Press)

Spying On Your Spouse by Kelly Squires (1996 Citadel Press) A little dated on the electronics used, but lots of other valuable information.

Website dedicated to recording phone calls: http://www.phonelosers.org/article/recording_telephone_calls/

new here, just found out 12/22/05 still trying to figure out what to do and what to think of my WS.
Does anyone know if there is a way to track outgoing and incoming calls on a cell phone? Any good thoughts on cracking passwords for email without having to reset it.
any help would be awesome.

Does anyone know if there is a way to track outgoing and incoming calls on a cell phone? Any good thoughts on cracking passwords for email without having to reset it.

You can set up an online account with your cell phone provider to track calls. Some have real time tracking some are delayed with billing cycle. You will need the cell SIM#.

Keyloggers are the best way to capture passwords. Unless of course you can guess. I got my WH IM password by having it emailed to him then I deleted that email....but if you can't get in to email that won't help you.

Digital voice activated recorders work GREAT.

Just an idea to throw out here. Anyone who knows me knows that for months I have been doing everything that I can think of to catch WH and get more information on OW.

A couple of days ago I signed up for Reunion.com and Classmates.com just looking for old classmates and such. Instinctively, I looked up OW, there she was !!! More info than I have gotten yet. But... and I now realize, a big but.. I think it will say that I have been there looking her up. Like --- who has searched for you, something like that. Frankly, I could care less what she thinks. Trying to let go of this.... trying but can not without some more um... info.... from Wh anyway.

Hope this helps someone a little.

Best regards - carnation

^for Broken

^ for gooner

Could you go to, say, Radio Shack and get something like this?

Thx
Rachek

I've seen them at computer stores such as MicroCenter or CompUsa in the past. Or...you can order them online as well.

The thing you need to ensure with these is that your spouse isn't likely to have a reason to go behind the computer...or if they do, they don't know what they're looking at. This normally attaches between the keyboard cable and the computer itself. Just something to be aware of.

I'd suggest you call around to a couple of the computer hardware/software stores and ask for them. Just tell them that they're hardware keylogging devices.

Whistles,

I would recommend the software version if you can log into the computer with admin rights (install software). Software is cheaper, and gives you alot more info, and options. i.e. keystrokes, screen shots of desktop, email sent and rcvd, IM conversations, etc... The hardware version only gives you keystrokes.

I agree that the software is cheaper. However, you have to disable your anti-spyware programs for most of them to work. I did not have the correct access to modify this on the computer that I used. The software to capture screen images and the hardware key logger is a good overall combination. It is a bit pricey..

C-

Got, you shouldn't have to disable your anti-spyware program to accommodate most keyloggers. All you have to do is program it to ignore the keylogger, which is real easy. Just run the anti-spyware and if it shows up there is usually an option where you can select IGNORE. I know that you can do that with most of the top ones like Spybot, Adaware, and the new Microsoft anti-spyware.

ML,

Oops, Let me clarify my comments. Some company computers require passwords to make any changes to the these sytems. Needless to say that the IT folks do not give this password away. This was the case with me. If you cannot get into the anti-virus/anti-sypware program, then the hardware key is much better.

For any machine that you have complete and total access to, then you are absolutely correct.

C-

The particular software which I had trouble with was Trend's MICRO OfficeScan. This program's options are not available without a separate password that is different from that of an adminstrator. For anyone looking to use keylogging programs with this anti-spyware, they only work until the computer is rebooted, then TREND removes the offending file. I had to fight this repeatedly. What I had to do was set the computer up with the key logger running and made sure that it was never rebooted (which was difficult as this was a laptop).

C-

I downloaded this keylogger for free:

http://www.kmint21.com/download.html

I hid it in a WORD document file. YOu can click on an icon so that it runs undetected. The only downfall is that you have to restart it every time you turn on your computer.

My husband is an IT person and he did not detect it. Also, virus scans did not detect it.

There is also an item you can connect between the keyboard cord and the port that it plugs into. You simply put it on, then later remove it, take it to another computer and download the keystrokes. The benefit of that one is that it truly can't be detected -- it's hardware, not software.

Voice activated recorders are awesome. Put one in the suspect's car, one in your house, one in his / her office if you can swing it. They even make some that look like ink pens. You can get a good /cheap one at Best Buy for $50.

Question.

My partner moved out and only checks e-mail from work.

The main computer is still in my possession.

The internet provider is Comcast.

Her "account" (user name) is the administrator or main account set up with Comcast.

I have a user account with my own password.

Can I get her e-mail password from my computer at home -- WITHOUT her knowing?

Thanks.

Come on y'all -- I know one of you has the answers to my questions above.

Chaka,

If she has not setup autologin, then you have little chance that any information would be stored on your machine. If she had setup autologin, then just try to get the email program running. Was she using Outlook or a webmail system?

Can you get any access at all to her computer at work? If so, then the dongle style keylogger will work. This will not interfer with any anti-spyware programs.

There are companies out there that say you can install keyloggers remotely. These are very expensive and I do not know if they would work. The computer that you are targeting is probably well protected and these programs are VIRUSES! Google "key logger" and you will get lots of results. The hardware version of a keylogger installs in seconds. However, you will have to make a second trip to retrieve it. Can you show up at your partner's work when they are not there? Can you enlist an accomplice?

If you call comcast, they will reset the password for you but typically cannot tell you what the password is (which will tip off your partner). I guess you could call them and ask about mail forwarding and see if they would help you out. Most often, this is something where the admin pw is required.

I now that this is not much help, but it is the best I can do. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Good Luck

C-

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how do you outsmart a computer genius? my spouse has a work provided cell phone so no access to that-and is a it network security geek- so I'm sure he would notice any sort of hardware or software

how does the voice recorder work if your spouse listens to the radio -does music or talk also get recorded?

I am a computer geek also, but would not fine a (software) keylogger unless I was looking for it specifically. The hardware version connects at the back of the PC, so again I would have to be looking for it.

The voice recorder will pick up radio noise, but if positioned well, and the radio volume is not louder than the voice will work just fine. I recommend an external mic superglued near the steering wheel.

Look for a digial recorder that comes with the lavalier, or lapel external mic. or they can be bought separate. Tape or velcro the recorder under the dash and run the mic up the steering colum and attach the mic with a drop of super glue.

^ for cantgive up

Anyone have any ideas as to how I can access cell phone records on internet when all I know is: carrier, number, name and address. I don't know last 4 digits of SSN. This is cell phone of OM (would this be illegal?). Thanks.

Someone else posted this link on another thread. I tried it using my own info, and it produced my address. So if you have enough info on the person your looking for and need an address, the price is right "FREE"..

ZABASEARCH

Hi all just to say i found this very interesting ,on spying. I have done the tape recording in car. i have Heard my H say thing to ow (our you sure that you are Divorced) (hi it me) .When played for him , he said he was talking to himself and told consellor same. WHAT A LIE. Sometimes thing back fire. Pansy

PANSY, you don't need the admission of a liar to know if something is true or false. In your case, you had solid evidence and didn't NEED his admission. Did you burst out laughing when he said he was "talking to himself?" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

An alternative to spying, because it was literally making me crazy (and angry, and frustrated, and tiiired) was to say to my WH.

"This is NOT a court of law, and you are NOT innocent until proven guilty...this is a M, and my gut instinct tells me there is something underhanded going on. I will assume the worst, that you are in a FULL-BLOWN A unless you give me irrefutable proof otherwise. The burden of proof is upon YOU."

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It's truely sad that a person needs to do these things to find out what their spouse is up to, but what are you gonna do if they deliberately destroy all the trust you had for them.

Good thing my W knows there's nothing she can do to or on a computer that I won't find out about so she doesn't try anything on it.

If you suspect anything, before spending money on keyloggers etc. what you could do is open a windows explorer window, click on tools and go to folder options, click on view and then on View hidden files and folders.
Then click on your C drive, click on Documents and settings, click on the user's name or on the owner folder, click on Local settings and then on Temporary Internet Files. Here you should see lots of internet short cuts and pictures, go through and click on any of them that you think are strange, when you do, either a website will open or a picture and that should give you an idea of what websites are accessed. Passwords and emails and so on doesn't show up but if your S has a web email or goes on chat rooms etc. , atleast the website should show.

It will not give you all the info you need but should give you an idea if you need a keylogger or not depending on what you find, mind you that pop ups show too so it might take a bit of time.

Also a keylogger that works excellent is Spector Pro 5.0. Costs money but has excellent features, works in stealth mode and you need to press atleast 4 buttons at the sametime and then you put in your password, that one records everything. You can set it so it will email you if there's activity or certain websites accessed.
Also, if you can get someone from your S's work to install it on their work computer, you can monitor their activity from an outside computer depending on what features you buy.

This program in stealth mode will not show up anywhere, not even in the add/remove programs, it can only be uninstalled through the program itself.

Hope this helps.

Ok, how do you figure out what is going on at work with your WW and OP? I've caught them talking in the parking lot after D-Day and recorded her talking to a friend about the OM, but she's gotten smarter or maybe it's over and she really isn't contacting the OM. I'd like to know for sure. I use to have access to her work email, but she changed her password a few months back.

I can't seem to get her to check her email at home, in which case I would have her password. Any ideas on ways to get her to check her email at home?

How about finding out what is going on inside the building at work. What can you do??? I don't have any contacts where she works.

I suggest finding a way for her to take a few days off work, go on a little trip or just stay home, if there is contact with OM, she would most likely not be able to resist checking her email at home during that time.

It's tough though getting access to their computer at work since it's company property and some companies have strict computer usage.

FYI -- A YAHOO MESSENGER "spying tool" which does not require downloading or purchasing:

There is a way to turn on the logfile in Yahoo so you will have an ongoing transcript of everything spoken in the IMs and in the chatroom. This combined conversation record is completely independent from the individual IM logs for each friend's ID and is not notified to the user and not affected by the usual messenger archive options. The user cannot turn it off through Yahoo. Looking at the recorded transcripts can be done in a text editor such as notepad or in excel, but there is a lot of untranslatable code letters in the prefix of each line of text. I filtered these out with excel formulas, but that is not necessary once you read a few dozen lines you will know what to ignore.

To permanently turn this feature on, you have to edit the registry. This works with Yahoo Messenger Version 7 series and some previous versions.

To manually enable Yahoo! Messenger logging, create the following .reg file:

(1) Go to Start, Run, then type in "REGEDIT" to active the Windows Registry Editor. Search through the folders until you get to the folder named: "[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Yahoo\pager]"

(2) RIGHT CLICK in a blank area on the RIGHT SIDE of the screen where the individual registry entries are shown in the "PAGER" subdirectory, which will open up a drop-down menu entitled "NEW".

(3) From the drop down menu, LEFT CLICK "New DWORD value", which will create a text box.

(4) In the text box, type in the name: "Use Logfile". Then press ENTER.

(5) Left Click on the new entry name ("Use Logfile"), which will highlight it. Once it is highlighted, RIGHT CLICK on the highlighted name, which will opens a drop-down menu. Then left click on the option titled "MODIFY".

(6) Clicking "MODIFY" brings up a new menu where you can edit the value, which is initially set to a default of "0". Change this dword value to "1" (hexadecimal), then Click on "OK".

(7) Close the upper right corner of the windows explorer window to exit out of REGEDIT.

The next time you sign on YAHOO, a transcript will be saved into an ongoing record in the logfile, which is stored in the folder: PROGRAM FILES/YAHOO/MESSENGER. This file will get longer each time you sign on because it saves all chatroom conversations and all IMs from any user, plus the date and time and name of the chatroom and chatters. The logfile has the name, "ypager.log". It is a good idea to erase the file once you are done with looking at it because the next time you want to view it you will have to find where you left off, and the file keeps getting longer.

Great new idea and tool Challengeoflife.

I wanted to comment on the legalities concerned with snooping. I am an attorney but limited to the practice of tax law. I do have a learned understanding of the law and the legal process. I also have a close relative that is a prosecutor and have discussed with him this issue. However, state laws differ wildly and you should ask your own attorney about your particular situation.

In most, if not all states, it is illegal to connect or otherwise place a recording device directly onto a telephone line to record conversation YOU are not a party to. In some states it is illegal to record a phone conversation this way even if you are a party to the conversation UNLESS you disclose the presence of the recording device verbally or with continuous beeps. However, these laws do not preclude the use of a recording device in the house that you own which happens to pick up one side of a phone conversation. As far as I know, utilizing a voice recorder or nanny cam in your own home is perfectly legal (the only known exception ARGUABLY MAY be the State of Washington).

As far as putting a recorder in your spouses auto, if it's YOUR car, then probably legal but NOT if it's your spouses titled car. That would likely be an invasion of privacy.

All that being said, the name of the game is REALLY don't get caught and if you do, create and manipulate plausible deniability. For example, purchase your spying devices with Cash or Money Orders and discard or hide the receipts REALLY REALLY well. Do not put your own voice on the recording except as it picks up your conversations with your spouse. Do not talk to or address the recording device at all, ever. Be particular careful when hiding the device NOT to speak or make any indication it was YOU that hid it. I know there is a tendency to test it (i.e. "1,2, and 3") or say "I hope you catch something good today"…DON'T. Then if the recorder ever gets found you simply say "What recorder". With NO proof you hid it or bought it if your spouse calls the cops or tries to prosecute you can flip the tables on your complaining spouse and say that SHE/HE set YOU up and you know nothing about any recorder. The end result is NO prosecutor desires getting involved in a "he said" "she said" situation or going after a betrayed spouse. Prosecutors also HATE husband/wife cases cause by the time trial occurs the complaining spouse usually recants. It's all just a big waste of time. They will refer you to the family court and send the complainer home especially if YOU remain steadfast that it was not your recorder or just take the fifth and refuse to answer.

Further, your spouse MAY threaten to call the cops or prosecute you for eavesdropping but they RARELY do. They want to maintain the secrecy of their addiction/affair and only want to manipulate you to back off with the threat...going forward with the threat only interferes with the addiction AND exposes it. Not likely. So when you are threatened after getting caught snooping don't back down, say "what recorder" and invite them to call the cops. Tell them to have at it...because they won't.

As far as fighting for your marriage, your spouse KNOWS you were snooping despite the denials so what to do about from there about snooping. Without admitting the recorder was yours, ever (the wayward could now be recording you), I suggest you apologize for it but say it's a necessary thing for you to snoop to reveal the truth about your life. Your wayward spouse has clearly demonstrated his/her untrustworthiness so you need to snoop to protect yourself, your family and the wayward spouse for more lies and deciept. You'd be a fool to trust them right now and they would surely do it to you if the situation were reversed, in fact, you'd appreciate it. You could certainly give the impression that you won't do it anymore (try not to flat out lie), but I suggest you storm right out and get yourself more and easier to hide survellance devices. It's a mistake to give in the anger of the wayward spouse. Of course they are angry but deep down they understand what you are doing and know you should be spying on them their anger is only an attempt to manipulate and control you so they can continue their addiction....don't buy it.

Last caveat...if you ever get questioned by the police about snooping you CAN lie to them. You have not taken an oath in the court of law and getting in trouble for snooping on your cheating spouse is not a thing the "STATE" should be getting involved with anyway. Lie and save the taxpayers some money.

THE BEST ADVICE: DON'T GET CAUGHT (hide devices with precision, thoughtfulness and genius)

Mr. Wondering

p.s. - Usually such passive recordings are not admissible in court. This is especially the case in no fault divorce states because they are irrelevant also. However, they may be admissible to impeach the testimony of your spouse (if they flat out lie and deny the affair or indicate the hiding of assets on tape and deny such in deposition you got 'em). They may also be reviewed by parenting evaluators in the custody dispute who are not as bound by the rules of evidence

Mr. W: Great Info!

Here is a State-by-State list of the laws on recording phone converstaion.

With the prevalence of chat programs on cell phones now, I thought I'd add a little bit to try and demystify what the codes mean. Unfortunately, I can verify this only for T-Mobile, and I had to do a lot of digging and testing to confirm it, and it is specific to AIM (As far as I know).

First, there's a couple of versions of AIM for phones. One version is using the traditional text-based messaging system, where you send the IM to a pre-assigned number to deliver it to the recipient via AIM. The system appears to assign these numbers, but they also appear to remain constant for a given buddy.

The second version is the mobile software version.

For the first one, you will see (usually) 4 digit codes for the number sent to, and if it was sent from the phone it will say A O L Message in the detail bill on line. If it was received, it will simply say incoming, with a 4 digit code that equals the buddy who sent it.

For the software version, every message (that I've seen) is assigned 4690. Outgoing is listed as A O L Builtin, and incoming is simply Incoming.

I hope this helps any BS out there trying to find out what's going on (or any parents who need to monitor their kid's use of cellphones).

Now for my question. I've seen some messages (on my wife's bill, not mine) that are listed as E-Note, with a 0500 number - the entry is the same, regardless of whether it's incoming or outgoing. Anyone know what this is? T-Mobile was about as helpful as tits on a bore hog <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I'll tell you what--that Zabasearch works. I've been trying to get the OW address for a long time. I've tried other on line places and I've always hit a brick wall--this site pulled it right up for me. Thanks so much. And also thanks for the links about the recorders. Excellent!

My WH thought he was being smart by using his separate credit card on hotel room charges with OW. He didn't know my detective skills.

I requested duplicate cred card statements from his credit card company. Even though I'm not a cardholder, some customer service reps will send you copies. You just need to have your WS' SSN and mother's maiden name. Some reps can be stubborn but just tell them H is out-of-town and needs duplicates for his records. I just tell them I'm requesting copies on behalf of my H. They are pretty cooperative. You just need to make sure you intercept the mail.

Better yet, if you have access to his c/c, you can set up an online account and monitor it via Internet.

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Beatndown,

Will Spector PRo. 5.0 work on a laptop computer? My WH has a laptop. What would you suggest?

THanks

mom24

Mom24,

Spector Pro will work on any computer that meets the minimum requirements as outlined on the website. Typically if its a pentium grade computer "less than 6-7 years old" you should have no problems.

There are options to have info forwarded to web sites, or email so you will not physically have to access the laptop to gain the data. This does require and internet connection in order for the information to be sent.

Best option "If you have access to the laptop on a regular basis is to have the data saved to the actual computer it is installed on. You then type in a select group of keys to your choosing (i.e. ctrl/alt/s) to view the history (History being: screen shots, keylogger, IM, email, etc).

Hope that helps.

JKT

When you put voice activated digital recorders in car to catch conversations, does the radio set it off? He listens to the radio and CD player the whole way to and from and I don't necessarily want to listen to the radio for hours waiting for the talking.

Also, what suggestions for when he emails at work? He knows I check his email and stopped emailing her from home over 4 years ago the last time I discovered friendship and he cut off ties. Now it has become A.

Last question. He also has started deleting all calls incoming and outgoing in cell phone so I can't check. Still waiting for latest bill. I plan on asking for password to site for log. He knows I've checked this because this is how I discovered A. Any other suggestions?

Angie,

Voice activated recorder: Yes the radio sets it off. It's kind of like fishing, you may have to go thru a dozen batteries before you get something. If you are not getting any info from the normal day to day trips. You may reserve the recorder for the "abnormal trip". As for listening to the entire content of the recorder. You could skip thru it... Listen for a few seconds, skip forward a minute, etc.

Work Email: Near impossible, and/or highly illegal to tamper with a corporate owned computer.

Deleted calls: Without complete lnowledge of the phone. If the call is deleted your only option is internet usage logs, or paper log sent with the bill. Most phone companies update the internet logs a few times daily.

Thnaks for the input. I'm willing to listen to the tape to find out what I may not be told. I do have an in at the office that I'm going to check out as well.

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bump!

Thought I'd bump this up for those trying to find out for sure! This is a helpful thread!

Forgot about this one. Found this in another thread posted by WTF:

WINDOWS OUTLOOK EMAIL CLIENT. If you would like to recover previouly deleted mail. This registry hack my help you out.

Please save or make restore point to Windows before making any changes to your registry.

Here you go!

Start the Registry Editor (Regedt32.exe)

Navigate to the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Exchange\Client\Options

On the Edit menu, click Add Value and add the following registy item:

Name: DumpsterAlwaysOn
Data Type: DWORD
Data Value: 1

exit the registry editor.

You should now have activated a new item in the tool menu. recover deleted items. It should work for all your Outlook folders.

This may qualify for 'Spying 201' since it involves some pretty advanced/involved stuff.

Here's a very interesting technique I recently came across that makes recording telephone calls very transparent and requires no external hardware (other than a second computer).

There are two major parts to this:

1) Switch your phone service to Vonage or some other VOIP provider (Packet8, Lingo, etc.). If you have cable internet or DSL then this will probably save you some big money on your phone bill; that's certainly a good explanation if you have to justify the switch. When connecting the Vonage router, find the one wire where your entire house is connected to the telco provider and plug this into your Vonage router. This way, all the phones in your house are connected to the Vonage router, just as they were all connected to the LEC (local telco provider). FYI - I'm saving around $40/month using Vonage!

2) Install 'Cain & Able', a veritable Swiss Army knife of security tools. You can get it here:

http://www.oxid.it/

Next, watch this video:

http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/cainvoip1

This thing is not simple or for the faint of heart. You may want to enlist the help of a friend who knows something about computers and networks.

However, the payoff for using this thing can be huge. As mentioned before, think long and hard before deploying any recording solution; you may not want to hear what you will have access to. Practice using it before deploying for real.

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Upsey Daisy for a new poster...

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Spector Pro is the best key logging software out there, I think. No, I don't work for them....!! I have been using it to find info on my WW, and it's ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!! It does screen snap-shots, key strokes typed, myspace, ALL email, IT SHOWS YOU EVERYTHING!! I even have it set to detect key words, and it sends me an email at work as to what she was looking at, and/or forwards me the emails that have the key words...

My WW and her mother have suspected that I have some sort of spyware on there. They had a computer geek come out and install new anti-virus, and anti-spy software. It hasn't found ANYTHING. I also intersepted an email from the same computer geek to my WW saying that he was not able to find anything, and that there was no way that I had any type of "key-logging" software installed...What a moron!!

Happy hunting!!

Folks, if you're interested in tracking your WS, I've found a great solution.

Have a look here:

http://www.mologogo.com

Here's the short story:
* Get a cheap Boostmobile (Nextel prepaid) phone (I bought a Motorola i415 on eBay for $20).
* Activate the Boostmobile service. Make sure to get the data plan (wireless web).
* Get the data cable for the phone (I got one on eBay for $12).
* Download the free software from Mologogo and install the application on the telephone via the cable (lots of detailed instructions on the mologogo website).
* Configure the application per the instructions on the Mologogo website
* Configure the phone to be totally silent. Disable all ringtones, vibration, etc.
* Deploy the phone

What's Good:
* It's cheap! I paid $20 (including shipping) for the phone. The data service costs $0.35/day! You can renew the service over the internet or get cards in a Nextel/Sprint store. No other charges if you're not using the phone.
* It works! Once the phone has a good GPS fix you're in business. I've read that it works in the trunk of a car. Mine worked fine stashed behind a plastic panel where the jack goes.
* It works in real-time. You don't have to retrieve the device and download the locations to a PC. All you have to do is go to the website and you can see where it is right now. The website keeps the 100 most recent locations; by default the phone reports a location every 5 minutes (you can change that).
* You can send the data to somewhere else if you wish. I had mine configured to transmit to a website where a little program scraped the data and put it into a database, so I could keep more than the last 100 points.

What's Bad:
* Battery life. All the activity drains the battery. Messing with the map zoom and the 'stealth mode' will help. Mine never went more than 24 hours without dying. You'll need constant access to the device to bring it in and charge it up each day. You could wire it in to the car's power system if you had time/access. I'd certainly do this if I was using the device for Lojack-like purposes (a lot of mologogo users are doing this).
* Reliability. The mologogo application is a Java app that runs on the phone. Being a Java app, it locks up from time to time. Again, you'll probably want to reboot the phone once a day to keep things running smooth (no prob if you're charging it at night). The mologogo developers are planning a fix in the future that should allow for extended (indefinite?) use as long as power is present.

Bottom line: the price can't be beat and the results are amazing. I wish I had this when my WW was misbehaving - I would have figured things out much sooner!

Pep bumped some old links from the archive and I got this little gem from a very old spying thread therein.

TRASH

If you know where the OP lives and what night is garbage night you may legally be able procure a lot of evidence by snooping through the garbage they leave out at the curb. This may also be a good source of intel if you and your spouse are separated...just get your spouses garbage.

What's great is I believe it's most likely ADMISSABLE in court.

Especially effective if the OP is single. They won't be very careful at all with what they throw away and leave just sittin' at the curb for your taking.

You may get real lucky and trap the OP or your WS in a lie at deposition which you can PROVE. The shock of producing real documented evidence at a deposition in direct contradiction to testimony....priceless.

Mr. Wondering

p.s. - Another situation where you don't want to get caught because if they discover you are or have done this they will use such activity to make YOU appear like a crazed bitter sneaky controlling manipulate betrayed spouse. In fact, to maintain deniability it may be best to get someone else to make the garbage drive by and pick up, if you are lucky enough to have a friend or family member able and wiling to do so.

Is there a way to get a recording device on somebodies person or in lets say a purse without being detected? Just curious if anyone has attempted this.

Anything is possible. Just a much higher probability of getting caught.

Big purse or small?

Normal Digital recorders can be the size of a pen. Keep in mine the smaller the recorder the smaller the batteries.

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right now pretty big bag kinda thing.
This looks interesting:
http://www.pimall.com/nais/microdotaudio.html
kinda $$$ though.

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We had a custody case once a where walk-away mom was living the high-life and partying ALL the time. Our investigator went trash diving one night and lined up all the empty beer and liquor bottles along the curb and video-taped the whole thing. He also got some empty baggies with residue in them. It was great. He also followed her to a local head-shop and filmed her going in empty-handed and coming out with a bag. It proved that she was placing her children in harm's way by allowing them to be around her partying dope-smoking friends. It was ALL admissible.

..Does anyone out there know how to find if any 'spyware' has already been installed on a PC??

I am a BS, but having a BIG issue with trust. Ultiamtely I want to see his internet/email activity. My WH is an IT person and I know has access to software. I cannot install any key loggers onto the machine which would involve backing up and changing registries as all his business is on this PC and I can;t risk deleting/messing anything.

thanks

Jane,

You could buy a hardware keylogger that connects to the back of the CPU between the CPU and the keyboard connector.

Essentially it's a memory stick that tracks keystrokes. It will NOT be detected by software, and does NOT change your registry.

It is not a all telling as the software version. Only records what you type, no screen shots, etc...

LINK: Ghostkey

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bump.

I used a small, GPS tracking device from LandAirSea Systems Inc. (www.landairsea.com) to check my WW's journeys against where she said she was going/had been. This revealed an extra stop on one journey of 1 hr 20 mins that she hadn't mentioned and which seemed to conflict with where/when she said she'd had lunch. I informed OMW of the details and we both challenged our respective WSs independently, naming the pub (bar) we thought they might have met at. Both admitted the encounter and both thought they'd been followed and observed but are unsure who arranged this (me or OMW).
The resulting paranoia will, we hope, end these meetings (both have promised NC) - the device stays!
The device has a strong magnet and no external switches. It's waterproof so can be attached under the car where it works adequately. I placed it near the tail-light cluster, behind an access panel where it is hard to spot and gives a very accurate trace (I could see which parking bay she used).
The device records the time, duration and location of all stops plus the route travelled. The data can be displayed as a simple log or superimposed on Google Earth images (or for US use, on a street map). Data is read by removing the device and plugging it into a USB port on a PC.
The device uses 2 x AAA batteries which should last about 2 weeks for good quality ones.

Good job on not revealing your source. It's making me laugh. Imagine how paranoid the two of them must be, thinking someone is following them, looking around, trying to lose them. LOL, I love it.

**edit**

Rewatch those James Bond movies too, and I'm not kidding !!!

I found my info mostly via old school detective work and cell phone records. The old school detective work means people skills and people contact, James Bond again. Ever work in a bar? Restuarant? Then you know people will talk if you get them going. Unbelievable info sourced this way. It's almost stupid as it can be so overlooked. Think James Bond.
Hope this helps.

My Story:
http://www.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/sho...e=0#Post3275828

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/sho...e=0#Post3277549

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I just read that you can send a cell phone in to a company and get deleted text messages. It costs $175. and they will send the phone back the same day. The place is called paraben. Anyone ever tried it?

Believer, That is good to know and makes sense.

I can retrieve lost or deleted photo's from my compact flash card I use with my digital camera.

I will look for cellphone software that can do the same, and post my findings.

-JKT

I would appear the cellphone forensics is a bit more indepth than a memory card, but still doable. Much of the success varies on the type of cellphone.

There are smartphones that run an operating system much like a computer (PDA, Blackberry, etc, iphone). These utilize both simcard and memory cards for storage.

Your normal run of the mill cellphone stores data on the SIM card or internal memory. It's sounds like most recovery success is with phones that store the data on a simcard.

The sim card is much like a memory stick that also stores your cellphone companies data. This is why if your phone dies, and you move your sim to another phone, it now has your phone number, contacts, etc.. And if is the method your phone uses to store data... It will also have your text msgs.

Simcards, much like harddrives, or memory cards, in that when you delete something, it's not really "deleted". It has just make that space available to be written over in the future. Until the portion of the memory has been replaced with new text, the old text remains unchanged, and can be recovered with software.

here is a link to a forum that discusses cellphone forensics.

Text Message Recovery

WW has a boot password on her new laptop.

She suspected I had 'something' on her old laptop (which I did with good results).

She has the password on her new system to prevent me from gaining access to install keylogger.

Is there a way to boot from the CD (like a safe mode) in Windows Vista, install the keylogger, get out of the system and have my WW logon (with original boot password) like nothing ever happened?

I do not want her to suspect I was on her system.

Me resetting her password eould defeat the purpose of me maintaining stealth mode.

Any help would be appreciated.

My experience with boot passwords are part of the CMOS "boot process" and actually occur prior to booting from either the harddrive or CD.

It's worth a try to see if the CPU will boot from the disk.

There are certianly ways to reset the boot password if it is CMOS, but it would be evident if reset, without returning to previous state.

I really don't think there is a way around the boot password -- the system won't boot anything until you get past it.

A couple of options:

1. Most PCs (including laptops) have a jumper you can close to clear the boot password. You could clear it, check her system and then set it to something else. The next time she logs in, she would either lock the system (if there is a lockout) or have to have it reset herself. Pretty much a one-time check for you, but it does give you some plausible deniability.

2. If she uses an external keyboard with her laptop, you could insert a hardware keylogger between the two. Pretty risky with a laptop and easy to detect (unless she uses a docking station).

3. You could (very drastic) pull the harddrive and connect it to another system and read data from it then re-insert it back into her system. Depending on her OS, you might have to be running something that will read her data without any "permissions", but it's worth a shot if all else fails. You could potentially make a copy of her hard drive (or at least the important directories) in about 20 minutes. Use an external laptop harddrive enclosure hooked to your system and grab the important stuff. This would give you "offline" time to peruse the data.

More importantly.....

Have you determined what you will do if there is "information" on her system? Do you have a plan beyond simply getting the data? Maybe it's worth tipping your hand to get the info....

Good luck.

Justkeeptrying and Artor,

Thanks for your insight!

I just may reset her password to install the keylogger.

I will just have to weather her 'storm' of getting on her box outside of her view.

Then again, she should be open.

My dilemma is, she seems to be warming up slightly, but I do not know if this is due to her being able to have any contact with OM.

I will think about this today!

Thanks again!

It's a shame that we have to resort to some of the tactics listed here. But this is an EXCELLENT thread. It's definately given me some ideas...

One of our members used this PI to bust up her husbands affair: http://www.frankmusicinvestigations.net/ Ask for Frank Music.

He can do things like background checks, cell phone address look ups, retrieval of cell phone bills for some carriers, etc. His prices seemed very reasonable comparativley speaking. He does not do surveillance unless the target originates in Virginia.

ML -- THANKS!!!

I am calling him right now!!!!

ML - I am encouraged!

Just contacted your source above! He will help me.

This will hopefully be the missing link to finding the info to expose to OMW!

Thanks again!

Blue

Bluenote-

See my suggestion to you over on Brae's thread.

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Capitan, so far it is undetectable by any virus or spywares that I know of. Spector Pro is good if you have daily access to the target computer, eblaster is good if you don't and need the reports emailed to you. I would imagine there is some way to discover them, but I honestly don't know how.

Capt., SpectorPro software is the best product out to my knowledge. "It caught me, and I know my way around a computer (IT)".

It's always best to run your Spyware tool(s) after installation. If it's undetected, your set. If it's detected, you create a rule to allow the software.

I suspect it will go undetected.

Keep in mind "Any software can be detected if the person is knowledgable, and paranoid enough to really dig. But other than that, there will be no indication it's running.

As ML mentioned, If you are looking for reports while out of pocket... Eblaster will forward email and chat activity to you. If you looking to return home and review activity, go with the Spector Pro.

Does anyone out there have first-hand experience w/ Spectre Pro?

As others have responded, it's very good provided you can access the computer to view the recordings of activity. It doesn't have any noticeable impact on performance.

Is there ANY way it can be discovered?

Yes.

There is a single process that captures screen shots and keyboard activity. If you knew the name of that process you can easily spot that it has been installed. Assuming of course that you knew enough about computers to know how to look and were motivated to do so.

It stores the recordings in an obscure directory on the disk. You can change where it stores them but if you knew what you were looking for (and had sufficient privileges) it would be easy to find the files.

To view the captured screen shots you have to launch SpectorPro by typing an obscure modified keystroke. In theory a user could accidentally type this and would be prompted for a password to use it.

Here is a little something that worked for me to find the person that my WW was seeing. On Nextel phones anyway this will work not sure about the rest. A deleted number can be re-dialed by going to the Recent Calls through the main menu. Select recent calls icon, but do not open the icon just press the call button. This works as long as no other phone calls were made. Be careful you are calling the number so get the number and get out or else you are going to talk.

I’ve been told that WS will try and talk to the OP before coming home and first thing in the morning. It was in my case, then I just did a reverse phone search and there he was, name address, the works.

I’ve also used a tracker (GPS) and it worked very well. I placed it under the front seat in a car with a moon roof.