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omg i posted once had this all filed out then did not have the subject line filled out so it took away all my post...i will give a much shorter version though..this is being moved from gen topics other questions on how much time to give... remember this is short version...
married 23 yrs march 5...troubles along way but nothing we couldn't get past...few indiscretions seems to always happen when i have birthday ending w/ 0 or 1...really sucks...i've not been perfect either though but..not like that. we know ppl that have local small town bar, we go play pool visit as it is so small we are all family. OTHER ppl come to bar (they swing) I'm out of town one night w/ daughter.. I tend to be intuitive and knew there was something but at this time he was still saying nothing happened. he kisses the other married woman in front of others but they did not see..she makes a scene about three weeks later.. he was three feet away and said he blocked out the conversation and did not hear what we were saying. I leave right after that. by 11:30 and he don't call me till 1:30. not even to check on me!!! two weeks after he confesses to a kiss after I'm still tellin him he's telling me a lie. here is my point...and which is worse??? he kissed her in front of ppl that just happened to not see it which would/could have lead to much more or the fact that the entire time he denied it till 2 weeks after.
now mind you there was not that much to drink, there were ppl around that could have seen and he just decided to kiss this girl sitting at the table????? HELLO COME IN HOUSTON I THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM!! the story is almost soooo unbelievable..but okay say i believe it and it happened that way this is how i interpret it..married woman says can i have a kiss and married man says sure,,,i don't care if anybody can see..then three weeks later when conversation occurs between her and i, he says nothing and blocks it out then does not call wife (till after two hours of knowing she is gone) oh well wait he didn't have his cell phone with him he might have had to used someone Else's phone like his brothers or something to call his wife then for another two weeks after me still tellin him he is telling me a lie that he tells me there was a kiss but it was a 20 second short one if that long. so he basically says...i don' t care if anybody sees me kiss another woman and I'm not gonna take up for my wife in this situation then expects me to be all happy and crap on our anniversary????? OMG... is the kiss the worst or the total disregard for me, himself and the marriage the worst?

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Welcome to marriage builders. Glad you got your post to work. Have you read all of the stuff here yet? There is nothing written that beating down another woman will help your marriage. I suggest that the two of you stay out of the bars, and work on meeting each other's emotional needs.

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we don't go to bars per say we only go to the one and there are many other couples there that we talk to play pool with and so on. this place is very small and not the typical bar. i can tell what you are thinking. let me put it to you like this the average age in this place is probably about 60. not the young hang out or anything.

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Whatever kind of place it is, I see problems. Your husband feels it is okay to kiss another woman, and the result is you getting in a wrestling match with her.

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okay so what if the same thing would have happened in the bowling alley? do we quit bowling because she shows up and can't keep her mouth shut till i blow a gasket? i think you are making more out of what happened between her and i when she made me mad than the point of the post. i'll take it out. what ever it dont matter anyway.

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PG,

You sound more upset here than you did on your original thread. I was surprised to read what you wrote here.

From your previous post:

1st post:

This is my first post here. I'm not sure if I have even put it in the correct place or not but here goes...In a talk my H and I had the last week I told him i had been getting on this site and I had printed out several pages of stuff for him to read. (love busters and others on trust). Sunday he knew where it was at i got it out while in the truck. Monday i took it into the house and put it on his nightstand. that night before going to bed he reads through the first few love busters then puts it up to go to bed. has not touched it since and this is friday. he's had time and has been at home. this is also the same man that told me he'd do anything and that if i wanted to order the courses he would do it w/ me. how much longer should i give him to read what i've printed out? If he's not going to read that then why should i think i should purchase the course? Am I being to impatient?

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This was short lived, one night stand as far as i know 1 1/2 months ago in jan. My main issue has been the total lack of respect for me as a person much less his wife and himself and out marriage over all. He continually lies and will or i dont feel he has given me a straight answer yet and if things really did happen as he says.....well lets just say it's a very sad thing that shows TOTALLY no respect. he would rather me resent him than tell me the truth. i'm getting to the point i can't stand him. he expects us to have sex and it all go away. i did turn him down for the first time last night though...hehehehe made him mad. LMAO i just think if he was really interested that he would be wanting to read more than what he has. perfect timing for all this crap..my b-day was the 1st and our 23rd ann. is sunday and i'm supposed to act as if nothing is wrong? i don't get it.

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i'm not sure how to move this besides the ole copy and past thing....i can fully understand what you are saying by i took pleasuare in turning him down. for the matter of fact....i'm still so angry at him...and for the first time in 23 years i did it...so yeah....i'm glad i turned him down... okay...so the dj part...i'm still new to this...what the heck is dj???? sorry i don't have all the short lingo down yet.

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I reposted these to help believer and others see your concerns. thebraveheart was replying to your other thread, so I hope she'll see you here. I like the name you chose.

The first post of this thread...were you talking about what just happened, on your anniversary? May I give you an early Happy Birthday?

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When I was speaking of disrespectful judgments (DJs) on your other thread, I gave you a link to Lovebusters...did you get to read that yet?

Sounds to me like the way your marriage worked was pretty much with a rhythm you were both used to--you got through, over and around stuff...until now, you don't feel like you can really do what worked before. That happens. Living in reaction to each other eventually stops working because you can only react so often until you don't know where you end and he begins (and vice versa).

The incident you describe shows a lack of boundaries on your part...boundaries are what you must have in place for yourself, what you won't allow others to do to you with consequences.

These are well-thought out areas with pre-determined consequences you must hold yourself to, as well. Boundaries need to match your standards, what you won't allow yourself to do to others or yourself.

This eliminates living a reactive life and choosing to act from a code.

In the four rules of marriage here on the website, Harley says how for you to behave in your marriage. He does say how your spouse should behave or how to make your spouse behave in the way you want. Same with ENs. He provides you with the groundwork of a good, loving, respectful and honorable marriage...then he leaves it in your hands, to your code.

If the rule of protection means staying out of a bar, bowling alley or grocery store, then that might what is required to honor that rule. Sounds like you took what believer said, decided why she thought it, judged her and determined she made more out of what happened than you did. She also might have meant for right now, spending the 15 hours of undivided attention away from these environments might be helpful.

Sounds like you have a lot of pain, anger, frustration, lack of boundaries, with many resentments and a way of living not founded in respect. You can change that, if you'd like. Being respectful to others means you must do that also for yourself.

That woman did not make you blow a gasket--that was your choice of action. Seems like in your life, you react, others have control over you and you have none. Your first post wanted that to be different. See, reactive living, well, isn't. It is not safe, makes no sense and has no respect for anyone. Not blaming you...I believe a majority of us grow up trained to be this way.

Hope this helps,

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Thanks LA - You said it much better than I did.

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Hey, I was guessing, but I respect ya...thanks for the confirmation.

LA

P.S. Feels like a high five...can we high five on a BB?


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