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#1931414 08/24/07 07:43 AM
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9/26/07 will be our 20 year anniversary if my FWH can get his head out of his butt. Discovery day 7/3/06 of EA/PA. A lasted around 6 months. Kicked him out 8/06. He has come back twice as he has decided he wants marriage to work. BUT due to excessive drinking I kicked him out again. Told him upon his return NC w/her, no disappearing acts, no alcohol. Hes doing much better with alcohol...finally got it after 20 years he does have a problem, is weaning away from her...I told him 3 days agao NC when she calls...he said ok. He avoids me though because I still get so angry over dumb stuff he does. Says he wants to come back but can't till hes 100%. How long do I give this? We have very little contact...Hes afraid of me yelling at him! Too bad. He caused my moods. Is he not seeing me or talking to me much becuase he doesn't like confrontation or he really doesnn't want to be w/me. I know what he says, but I don't know! HELP...please

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First off all welcome to MB. Hopefully some of the regulars will be on here soon. You have come to the right place for all the help you need. When I first got on here, I was just as angry as you and felt totally convinced that my anger was well founded...which it was. On here, they will help you to find new ways/constructive ways to vent that anger and hurt. My best advice is to IMMEDIATELY get Surviving An Affair and His Needs/Her Needs and read them. They were a huge help to me. I will let some of the wiser people take it from here. But welcome and I am so sorry for all the pain you are experiencing. But take comfort in knowing that help is on the way! God Bless You.


"Be still, and know that I am God" Psalm 46:10 Faith isn't believing God can, its knowing that he will. BS(me)-26 FWH-26 Married-October 2000 DDay-September 2005 Divorced-October 2006 Remarried-August 2007 DD-6 DD-3 DD-2 OC-1 In Recovery!
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Thank you

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We have very little contact...Hes afraid of me yelling at him! Too bad.

LOL, I was where you were...Heck, I still want to yell. I've only been here a few weeks and can say that I've been improving. The advice you'll get here won't be easy, but its given if you want to save your M. If not, then yell away. Another book to purchase is POPW (power of a praying wife) its really good and is helping me stay calm when he's around. Its soooo hard to give and give to someone you truely love and all they want to do is mope around missing OP.

Learn how to let the small stuff go. You really need those books the other poster said and POPW.

If you want your H back, yelling is not going to make him want to be home, even though he is the cause. By yelling, in his head he sees how he is justified in his wrong doing. It makes him feel less guilty, and the less he thinks about it the more he can go on doing wrong as if he has no heart. When the guilt does seep, all he has to do is think about you. He's telling you this is why he don't come home (listen). and he could be spreading half-truth and lies to anybody who will listen to him and they are helping him also by justifying his actions...they can be telling him too "do what makes him happy" instead of doing what is right.

How long do you wait? You have to come up with that figure on your own because you know how long you can stand. But dont make any decision until you are sure. You dont want this to be a back and forth thing on your part because then he will see you as wishy washy and know your threats arent real.

If you want to save your marriage, ask him to come home, and tell him you will try your hardest not to yell at him. Then go to MB website and read about Plan A/Plan B....Read Surviving an affair.


BS (Me) 27 WH 26 M 03/2005 D-Day 06/20/2007 2 DS: 2.5 years and 1 year old Plan A 8/04/2007 Plan B 10/06/2007 NC 10/12/2007 On the road to recovery 11/06/2007
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""We have very little contact...Hes afraid of me yelling at him! Too bad. He caused my moods. Is he not seeing me or talking to me much becuase he doesn't like confrontation or he really doesnn't want to be w/me.""

Just curious if you have read anything on this board concerning PLAN A?

Simply put, PLAN A, if follow correctly, makes the Wandering Spouse (HIM) WANT to be with the Betrayed Spouse (YOU).

Would YOU want to be with YOU if YOU acted like that to YOU?

So it has been over a year of waffling back and forth. Did you ever employ the plan A technique which is championed here in the halls of MB??

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Thank you so much.

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Yes, you really need to read all about Plan A and follow it - no more disrespectful judgements or angry outbursts.

Also if there is still contact between them, the affair is still on. Do a good Plan A for about 3 months, and then we have another plan.

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Hes being followed by a PI. They have zero contact except for when she calls him every 2-3 weeks for a 5 minute conversation. I by NO means am defending him but hes always been a "Nice" guy and I think he just can't let her down to even get rid of their friendship. I know this sounds dumb, but please explain how the affair is still going on..

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They have zero contact except for when she calls him every 2-3 weeks for a 5 minute conversation.

This is CONTACT. Contact means CONTACT. Contact = ongoing affair.


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The problem is that he is very willing to take a chance on ending a 20 year marriage by continuing to have any kind of contact with her.

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aweeeee c'mon Mel - it's just a little bit of contact so it's just a little bit of an affair.

ROTFLMAO

Mel is right. ANY contact means a continuation of the affair. It is impossible to recover with contact.


Me: 56 (FBS) Wife: 55 (FWW)
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Married 11/1982 3 Sons 27,25,23
Empty Nesters.
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