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"Funny......now that you've called me a sweet woman I can't be mean to you....and you know that is my nature. Even when someone hurts me I find it extremely difficult to hurt them."

And please dont let your WH change that. Its a good way to be. That is why you need to protect yourself from his hurtful fogbabble. smile

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married 12 Yrs together(?) 18 yrs when A discovered
DDay aug 2007
found MB dec 2007
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still seeing OW
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Thanks Frank but tst said it would be a waste of time and I think I agree with that right now. He's still too foggy.


Right... I said to ask Steve Harley though because that is a little breakthrough isn't it? Him mentioning MC... Although if he is with a NEW OW I fear his demons may be deeper than MC... BUT.. Harley is the expert.. he would know better than us...




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Thanks Frank but tst said it would be a waste of time and I think I agree with that right now. He's still too foggy.


Right... I said to ask Steve Harley though because that is a little breakthrough isn't it? Him mentioning MC... Although if he is with a NEW OW I fear his demons may be deeper than MC... BUT.. Harley is the expert.. he would know better than us...

Sometimes I sense a slight breakthrough but then I'm just not sure of anything...



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Originally Posted by stillhere8126
"Funny......now that you've called me a sweet woman I can't be mean to you....and you know that is my nature. Even when someone hurts me I find it extremely difficult to hurt them."

And please dont let your WH change that. Its a good way to be. That is why you need to protect yourself from his hurtful fogbabble. smile

Thanks... {{{{Still}}}}.



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verysad, you are not hurting me by telling me to stay off your thread. Just as you are not hurting your husband by doing a dark hard Plan B. I know you love the good in people. Like me and your husband..I do too. Then it is hard to set boundaries.

But the fact my husband never had an affair and I am not giving you the right advice means you can ask me to stay off your thread. and I can respect that. Maybe it is not appropriate for me to be there even though you like me better now.

I guess you could say, " I like you but please stay off my thread"

And with your husband: "I love you but please stay out of my life in every way unless you quit talking to other women".

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Originally Posted by Bubbles4U
And with your husband: "I love you but please stay out of my life in every way unless you quit talking to other women".

Thanks Bubbles, that is actually good advice. You don't have to stay off. Just a little more gentle maybe?



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VST, what about today? Have you resolved to not come in contact with WH AT ALL today? Make it a day-by-day resolve, and it will get easier. Don't look at it as an all-or-nothing deal, just for today. And then tomorrow. And on.

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Thanks Cat, I don't have plans to have contact with him today. He is picking up DD for the weekend. I won't see him.

This new hurt (new OW) is very hard on me. I'm very depressed...



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What can you do for exercise today? Bike ride? Hike? Tennis?

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I don't know if I can muster up the energy to be honest....it's raining so I can just do my usual DVD workout.



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Need help now!! WH just sent me this email and I need a VERY GOOD RESPONSE!!

"You know I really hate that you are hurt and I hate the fact that my family is falling apart... It seems like its just too big a problem to fix... There has been so much damage... How could I ever fix it?"



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Originally Posted by verysadtime
"You know I really hate that you are hurt and I hate the fact that my family is falling apart... It seems like its just too big a problem to fix... There has been so much damage... How could I ever fix it?"

Reply:

"Let me know when you are willing to do whatever it takes for as long as it takes to make this marriage work."


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Plan B, right?

What did your PB letter say?

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Plan B, right?

What did your PB letter say?

As far as conditions? NC with co-worker OW, sell the boat, agree to MC of my choice.

But now I'm pretty sure there is another OW that hangs at the dock.



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Originally Posted by verysadtime
Originally Posted by Pepperband
Plan B, right?

What did your PB letter say?

As far as conditions? NC with co-worker OW, sell the boat, agree to MC of my choice.

But now I'm pretty sure there is another OW that hangs at the dock.

OK.

Stick to the one sentence response.
Do not sign it with any closing remark. Not even your name.

He's close to bottom ... keep him falling.

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read this link that Mark posted on another thread ... where do you think WH is today?

http://www.yourmarriageadvice.com/Affairs-Infidelity/7trials.html

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Originally Posted by verysadtime
"You know I really hate that you are hurt
This is not an apology, far from it. He hates that he got caught. Wayward Babble!

Originally Posted by verysadtime
and I hate the fact that my family is falling apart...
He is saying it's a fact that my family has fallen apart, yet accepting no responsibility for his affair being the cause. Again, Wayward Babble!



Originally Posted by verysadtime
It seems like its just too big a problem to fix... There has been so much damage... How could I ever fix it?"

This is WH saying, I'm not interested in meeting YOUR requirements, YOU'RE just asking toooo much of me to leave my job and stop contact with the OW #1....... Also another way of saying, "You are just making to big of a deal out of this stuff". Again, Way, Wayward Babble!





Recovery began 10/07;

Meeting my wife's EN's is my "thank you" that refuses to be silenced.
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Sounds to me like he's between 5 & 6.

He is falling.
He is about to find out how much bravery/courage/valor he's capable of.

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.... or not.

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