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Thank you both!
I'm happy to say I'm a different person altogether. This pleases me greatly. I'm so happy for you Krazyman.
I never had to take the Kobayashi Maru test until now. What do you think of my solution?O'hana means family, and family means nobody gets left behind or forgotten. My Story Recovered!
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(Of course I also did two weeks in the sin-bin here - a year ago today, as a matter of fact!) Happy Anniversary, NG! 
D-Day 2-10-2009
Fully Recovered and Better Than Ever!
Thank you Marriage Builders!
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Krazy, It's nice to hear you're doing so much better!
Recovery began 10/07;
Meeting my wife's EN's is my "thank you" that refuses to be silenced.
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I think that your story will help prove that Plan B sure as heck does help people. I wonder though, who was the second most angry person on the boards? WE got 1st, and 3rd recorded, but no 2nd. i haven't been around long enough to know.
Nice to "meet" you Krazy
BW(Me)aka Scotty:37 DSx2: 10,12 DDAY2(PA)Nov27/09 Plan B Dec18/09 Personal R in works Scotty's THING  Newly Betrayed click herePraying for walls and doors. Thanx MM “Surviving is important. Thriving is elegant.” ? Maya Angelou PROGRESS NOT PERFECTION THANK YOU
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If you take Mel with you, you don't need a gun. Chuck Norris is scared of MelodyLane.
If you are serious about saving your marriage, you can't get it all on this forum. You've got to listen to the Marriage Builders Radio show, every day. Install the app! Married to my radiant trophy wife, Prisca, 19 years. Father of 8. Attended Marriage Builders weekend in May 2010 If your wife is not on board with MB, some of my posts to other men might help you.
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One year becomes two, two years becomes five, five becomes ten and before you know it, you've wasted your whole life on a problem you can't solve. That's one way to spend your life. -rwinger
I will not spend my life this way.
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you people are regular comedians!!  ![[Linked Image from cheesebuerger.de]](http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/teufel/a018.gif)
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Kids wear Superman pajamas. Superman wears Chuck Norris pajamas. Chuck Norris wears MelodyLane pajamas.  Best laff I had all day!
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“In a sense now, I am homeless. For the home, the place of refuge, solitude, love-where my husband lived-no longer exists.” Joyce Carolyn Oates, A Widow's Story
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If you are serious about saving your marriage, you can't get it all on this forum. You've got to listen to the Marriage Builders Radio show, every day. Install the app! Married to my radiant trophy wife, Prisca, 19 years. Father of 8. Attended Marriage Builders weekend in May 2010 If your wife is not on board with MB, some of my posts to other men might help you.
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I remember the angry phase. It was very intense and filled my head with dark thoughts. I remember feeling like my arms were going to explode and my head pounded and I wanted to break something. It took a good friend of mine to make me face my own anger.
I got banned temporarily from this forum for advocating that a BH who had no kids should walk away, count his blessings, and never look back. I advocated that viewpoint one too many times for a particular BH and got a 2 week ban.
I still hold that view, though I don�t keep repeating it once it is said one time.
But I remember your anger. I remember your advice which generally focused on dropping the WS. I think a BS who adopts the attitude that their WS is disposable stands the best chance of recovery. Accepting that they are replaceable is empowering.
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Krazy, lemme ask you this. While you were really angry, did people with a sunny disposition annoy you beyond reason? Oh yes..."annoy" would be an extreme understatement.
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I remember the angry phase. It was very intense and filled my head with dark thoughts. I remember feeling like my arms were going to explode and my head pounded and I wanted to break something. It took a good friend of mine to make me face my own anger.
I got banned temporarily from this forum for advocating that a BH who had no kids should walk away, count his blessings, and never look back. I advocated that viewpoint one too many times for a particular BH and got a 2 week ban.
I still hold that view, though I don�t keep repeating it once it is said one time.
But I remember your anger. I remember your advice which generally focused on dropping the WS. I think a BS who adopts the attitude that their WS is disposable stands the best chance of recovery. Accepting that they are replaceable is empowering. I have my beliefs and they are set in stone, but I've learned to keep them to myself unless I'm asked.
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Krazy,
I remember many of your posts from the summer and fall of 2008, when I was new to MB. At the time, I thought anger was sort of a natural state.
Glad you are doing well.
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BW - 70
WH - 65
M - 35 years
D-day - 17 Apr 08
H broke contact 11/1/09
Back in love after the worst thing that every happened to us.
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Krazy,
I remember many of your posts from the summer and fall of 2008, when I was new to MB. At the time, I thought anger was sort of a natural state.
Glad you are doing well.
AM Thank you very much. Anger is a sickness that starts as an emotional illness, then progresses to a physical condition if left untreated. It's the big bad brother of basic stress.
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I would worry tremendously about anyone who experienced infidelity and didn't go through anger and rage. The operative word being "through".
I'm SO GLAD you have made it through.
A smooth sea never made a skilled mariner.
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Me too! Now that I've made it through, I've tried to give advice to a few other BSs. They are some of the most frustrating people on Earth because they NEVER LISTEN!!
Good grief, most of them have their head so far up the WSs [censored] that a crowbar is needed to extract them. LOL
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Krazy, lemme ask you this. While you were really angry, did people with a sunny disposition annoy you beyond reason? Oh yes..."annoy" would be an extreme understatement. I've been waiting for your response to this. Thanks. I trust your honesty.  Did my particular sunny disposition annoy you? I am using this as a teachable moment for MYSELF, not to help you. You don't need my help. I "see" myself in a particular light, and I wonder if/when a person is in deep pain/anger .... my natural cheerfulness might be more than annoying?
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Krazy, lemme ask you this. While you were really angry, did people with a sunny disposition annoy you beyond reason? Oh yes..."annoy" would be an extreme understatement. I've been waiting for your response to this. Thanks. I trust your honesty. Did my particular sunny disposition annoy you? I am using this as a teachable moment for MYSELF, not to help you. You don't need my help. I "see" myself in a particular light, and I wonder if/when a person is in deep pain/anger .... my natural cheerfulness might be more than annoying? I think it was more a matter of you and I having differing opinions in the areas of politics and religion. Combine that with a bottomless pit of anger and depression, and BOOM.
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I think it was more a matter of you and I having differing opinions in the areas of politics and religion. Combine that with a bottomless pit of anger and depression, and BOOM. OK. Guess what KZ? I don't recall any political fights we had! Plus, I don't give a damn. I accept people who hold different opinions. Not just tolerate, accept. Ain't life grand?
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I could be getting you confused with another member...I do know I was debating/arguing with people when I was far too angry to be doing so in a civil manner.
Huh-huh...I said "member".
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