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Did I scare YOU away? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Been thinking about you...

<small>[ March 04, 2004, 07:17 PM: Message edited by: new_beginning ]</small>

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No! Never! hehe .. I wish someone COULD .. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
I am racking up the points with 1937 posts myself!
I'll be in the big leagues here soon. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

I usually go away for the weekends and lately I have noticed I have posted less and less. Hmmm? Maybe I am backing away from MB some?

Anyway, we were on a roll last week ......so how was your weekend and how are you doing?

One of the last things I remember is that singleguy posted something to you that REALLY ministered to me as well. (thanks single btw) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> The gist of it was that when we ask God to forgive us - He DOES - end of story - and to constantly bring it back up means that some place deep inside of us we are not trusting that God did, or worst yet, that God even WILL. Maybe we secetly think that His grace just didn't extend "quiiiiiiiite" that far and we are asking too much.

That was paraphrased from what he said but that really ministered to me too.

I have trouble with forgiving myself as well Sheryl especially when I think that
MY actions have hurt my kids in any way ......

THAT is where I crater every time.

Can you relate?

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<small>[ March 04, 2004, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: Diamonzzz ]</small>

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ohmygosh -- You have written my EXACT thoughts. Yes, you know what's in my head, because it *seems* at least to me, that you've LIVED it, and are continuing to live it. You really do understand. I thought I was the only one who did this... I was all alone. I know now that I'm not.

I don't know what to say.

I'm logging off for the night - have been on here too much today -- pittering around, posting a bit, sent out a few online resumes... but I'm tired too...

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Dzzz and Sheryl,

Just so you know, most people already know your story long before you felt the need to tell it anyway. And you are right Dzzz, you do not need the approval of man. That's why I said you don't need to retell it. Some so called Christians just love to grovel in the dirt, but we're not that way here! Yes, mankind will always try to judge you for your actions. But man wants to judge everything to make himself look better, more holy, and all kinds of other reasons. You have got to be bigger than the judgement of man that comes against you. "God" forgave you!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you will have to declare that everytime satan brings it up, but you ARE forgiven. You need to get that deep into your hearts and minds. YOU MUST BEGIN TO BELIEVE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS!!!!!!! And if you will ask your children to forgive you, they will in a heartbeat. You know that. Yes, you may have to work thru some things, but you should also be able to teach them with a much deeper conviction!

You must also learn the value of repentence. A real Christian can sense a repentive heart and they know the precious value of forgiveness. They have no God given right to hold it over your head, nor do they want to. And as for others, when we repent, God said He would make even our enemies to be at peace with us! This is what I meant about the consequences having a season. Even Bathsheba eventually was restored to be the mother and wife she was meant to be. You bet God hates divorce. HE said what God has put together, let NO man put asunder! There has to be some consequences for sin, you know that! But your consequences will fade to the past when YOU begin to believe God's word deep, deep, deep down inside, and ignore man!!! Memories sometimes, yes, consequences, NO! HE can make all things work together for good, if you will let HIM! "THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE" That doesn't mean just KNOWING the truth, it means RECEIVING it. It's time girls!

My wife did the same thing you two did. No need to go into all the details, you already know them. But for me to hold that over her head for the rest of her life is sin on my behalf. I need to worry about the log in my own eye! No, she won't get a second chance persay, but she does get a new beginning. So do I! So do you!

You are forgiven girls! God ALREADY has forgiven you if your repentence was genuine. I FORGIVE YOU, if that helps. Now forgive yourselves! Be the women of God that He wants you to be. Find that Godly humility, that ministry that brings peace and joy. It's already there, just waiting for you to take it!!!

God Bless Our Girls!
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*I need to practice not bothering to say everything I feel* DZ

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I'm deleting to respect Diamonzzz's privacy -- and heck, maybe even mine.

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- when will I ever learn? - sigh

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(((((((((((((Diamonzzz)))))))))))))))

I'm learning at just about the same speed. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

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((((Sheryl)))))))

I am sorry about the job.

I am not feeling to chipper today myself.

We'll talk later. Try to have a good day despite.

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waz just a bunch of feelings..nuffin important..Dz

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I got off, we called a headhunter and got an interview for next week... and came back to read what you'd written.

I understand. I understand. I understand.

God bless us both...

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Hey Dzzz,

I'm sorry for the intruding here please forgive me.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I agree with God's word about divorce and I KNOW He hates divorce but I am having real trouble knowing what to repent of?

For real? My "sorry" must seem hollow to God.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">God has never cared more for our words than He does our hearts?

Romans 8:26-27In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express. And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will.

I truly believe these groans are the things the heart pours out to Him and we cannot put into words.

I think Sheryl says it better than anyone ever could.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I know, like you, that I did the best I could with what was in me at the time.

I try to cling to that. You too, okay?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Again please forgive my intrusion. I hope I have helped in a small way. {{{{{Dzzz}}}}} You too {{{{{Sheryl}}}}}.

You both are so special to God and to us here.

S&C

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Maybe this thread should die. I don't know. I too want to share, to tell it all... a catharsis. I've told it before, many times. I don't want to tell it all again. There's just so much to tell. I'm tired.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I should have listened to myself when I wrote the above paragraph originally.

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I appreciate your "confessing", but God wants and expects us all to move on. I could tell you things about what people have done to me and what I have done to others. I could be burdened with it forever if I wanted, but I refuse. I could say how they played a role in the situation, but I refuse. I am accountable for what I did, and excuses just dilute the repentence. There is a season for everything, and your past must be a season, not a lifestyle. You must let go, process or not. You only need to repent "once" if it is genuine. Not over and over. If you do, you are missing out what God has said to you in his word! I ask that you would reread what I posted earlier, but before you do, ask the Holy Spirit to speak to you what He wants you to hear, not what the words say!

I have been basically divorced 8 years. It wasn't until the last 3 that all the junk got processed and restoration, and peace began to take place on a meaningfull level. Yours will come too. Give it a chance. But start letting the guilt go. Like S&C said, God will look at your heart, long before your words. He will also speak back to your heart, LISTEN!!!

I apologize Dzzz, you are right in correcting me about you not having an affair. You had told me, and I forgot. WILL YOU FORGIVE ME?

Today think about who is speaking to your heart! Is it God, the forgiver and restorer. Or is it satan, who is always accusing and condemning! Why are you giving him priority. Think about it girls. OK, you have made your confession. God has forgiven you. Get a strong spiritual same sex friend that will help you thru the healing. Preferably an older gal who is a pillar in your churches. God will give you a new beginning!!!

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Now I'm deleting for me... this was just embarrassing.

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And one last thing, If You have "declared" Jesus as the Lord of your life, have asked Him to forgive your sins, and to live and to be your Savior forever. YOU HAVE PEACE, PARDON, A HOPE, A FUTURE, ASSURANCE, AND A GUARENTEE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HEAVEN!!!! The bible says that "you can know" !!!! If yoiu sin, repent! It is what keeps you and God in perfect harmony!

If you are looking for a "sin" to confess, it's not walking in obedience with the Lords word. Not just in marriage, but for doing what you wanted instead of what He wanted! Something every person alive is guilty of!!!

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