H has been gone almost two weeks on business, has called a few times, nothing big, usual kind of stuff. I know that he has been in contact with the OW.<P>Have mentioned a few times that I don't think that I can get me, Kids and animals in my car all the way home. H suggested that I take the van and he take my car to Florida to see OW before going to Utah, he'd drop it off in SD on his way. I said "No way, that is my car (I've made all the payments) and I don't want her in it! I've given up my H to her isn't that enough?" H didn't have much to say to that.<P>16 yo D asked H about caravaning to SD he stated that wouldn't work that we could box clothes and stuff and ship via UPS to SD. <P>I figure if he does that I will unfortunately have car problems and will need to call him in the middle of day 2? Will she LB that his wife and kids are bothering him? My other thought...he can't afford to keep the van and needs to trade it off (have been telling him this since Feb) If he takes the "family car" mini van to FL to see her is that a good reminder that that is what he is a family man? I'm trying to think of ways to get her to LB, the short amount of time that he is there, will only be there 4-5 days. I did look at trading the van in today for a 5 speed truck, think she can drive a stick?<P>Any ideas of things to do from 900 miles away that would cause her to LB? I don't want to be mean or vindictive, I want to do them a subtle as possible, so that it's not like I am provoking her. I don't want to become a hurricane but perhaps a tropical storm!!!!HA!HA!<P>H will be home on Friday night having a logistical problem with his pick up will see how that effects his demeanor, my birthday is tomorrow, and will wait to see if he remembers, on a brighter side my kids and I are going on a dolphin cruise off of VA Beach, should be fun but will have the dramine for the middle child. I did submit my resume to the school district back home and looks like I can get a job as an aide shortly after getting there.<P>Am waiting to see how I feel when I get in the car on the 11th as to if I give him the plan B letter, some days I feels that I must, have that clean break, but then I think that he usually talks to me about his job and so on and with him starting a new one as the BOSS of about 70 people he made need that outlet, if I give the Plan B letter, I won't be there when he needs me, I don't think that he talks to her about the job. So it would be good for me to be available, so confusing, what should I do? Input please!!<P>I really need some input from my friends here. Thanks Dawn

I always seem to post late at night when there is not much traffice here, but it is the time that I have available to be here.<P>Just a nudge.<P>Dawn

Hi Dawn, <P>From 900 miles? Well, I came up with one yesterday. I decided that I will now refer to the OW as Mrs. H (by her married name). Did it yesterday and it felt good. Every time I get a chance to use her name it will be Mrs. H. Is that H for Hyde? Hm....... could be Dr Jekyl and Mrs. Hyde. Fits pretty good (not real name but close). <P>L.

Yeah 900 + miles!!!!<P>Won't work to call her Mrs anything as she never married, and hopefully will never have the same last name as me!!! URGH!!! that's an awful thought, having to share my name with her,won't know if it is MIL or OW or Me that they are talking too.<P>He did not tell his parents whil in NY 2 weeks ago, still don't know if that is good thing or not!! Is there a possibility? Am I hoping for too much?<P>D<P>D

He did call to wish me a happy birthday, more then some people have done today!

Happy Birthday Daybreak!!! I am sorry for the mess you are in.<P><<<<<Hugs>>><BR>HbH

Thanks HbH, I appreciate the wish, was hoping for more today!!

Happy Birthday from me!