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In this little book, it states that REAL fruit bearing is your only permanent deposit in heaven (based on scripture, John 15:16) And it's the main earthly reason we were saved. There are two kinds of fruit bearing, inner and outward. <p>In inner fruit bearing you allow God to nurture your Christlike qualities: Love, Joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self control .. all are fruit of the Spirit.<p>What struck me out of the fruit bearing qualities was the "longsuffering". Can you tell me why it's necessary for us to experience longsuffering? All of the others are enriching fruits and I can equate them with happiness. Yet the longsuffering somehow feels like accept martyrdom or a painful life but still somehow experince joy in tandem??? I'm confused. <p>Jo
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Resilient...<p>It has been a couple of months since I looked at the book... let me check it out and get some context and perspective and I will post about it later...<p>Can you give me a page number for reference?<p>Thanks, Cali<p>[ February 28, 2002: Message edited by: Cali ]</p>
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<p>[ February 28, 2002: Message edited by: Faith1 ]</p>
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I just looked up Galations 5:22 in my study Bible and that version uses the word patience instead of longsuffering.<p>Definitely a positive fruit!! and something that we talk about here often... that we have learned patience and to trust in God's Will for us.<p>Hope that helps,
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Cali has it exactly! Jesus was longsuffering. He didn't deserve any of the bad treatment he got but he was patient and forgiving and NEVER did resentment build in him for being patient or understanding of our human imperfection. He loved us all in spite of our failings and went on to the cross, quite longsuffering wouldn't you say?. We are to strive to be Christ-like.Longsuffering describes one of our Lord's attributes,it doesn't imply we joyfully live a life of misery [img]images/icons/wink.gif" border="0[/img] .
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<p>[ February 28, 2002: Message edited by: Faith1 ]</p>
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Okay, this makes sense, and I can be patient, altho at times I do need to remind myself.<p>Thank you both for the help. Still reading ... [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] <p>Faith, How come you deleted your post, Hon? I always look forward to your take on things, esp when it comes to Christianity or spiritual issues. What did you say???<p>Lv, Jo
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Bump for Faith! ^<p> [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] Jo
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oops dup. post [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0[/img]<p>[ March 01, 2002: Message edited by: Faith1 ]</p>
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Jo, Thanks for getting my attention. I don't remember what I posted now. Mthr and Cali said it much better than me anyhoo. I felt like I stuck my nose in, so I pulled it back out.<p>I liked your question, and I just posted what I was thinking at the time.<p>No biggee! If I think of it, I'll post it in a bit. <p>Hope you have a great day!<p>Faith1
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