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Posted By: NSR Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 01:24 AM
It's been quite a while since I've been on these boards.

Wasn't even sure if I remebered my password.

For those who remember me...
...just a short update...
...and I'll check back on the weekend.

My ex-wife (left me and (3)kids August 1999... divorced March 2001) to live with boyfriend out of state...
...and then, this Sept/Oct they broke up.

He(boyfriend) was seeing another woman (don't know for how long)... then ex's boyfriend had a falling out with this new woman... but won't get back together with my ex.

Talk about the 7 year itch. (~7 years since ex's first contact with boyfriend)

I have no plans to take her back...
She still says bad things about me...
...those who know me... might remember the silly grounds for divorce.

Love to all.

NSR(New Sun Rising) <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: MelodyLane Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 01:33 AM
Hi NSR, I remember ya! Good to see you. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: dewt Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 01:34 AM
Whoa...

Jim? Is that really you?

Whoa...

In 99 I posted under the name deut. I was the FWH of Soulloss.

Whoa...

Soooooo.... howya been?

John

ps: I'm glad ya posted. I have thought about you a few times over the past couple of years. Your dedication, patience and sheer sticktuitiveness have been an inspiration... even years after we last 'knew' each other. Funny how that works, eh? Anyway, I'm happy that I had a chance to tell you that.
Posted By: Susan Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 01:40 AM
I remember you! Good to see you!

Susan <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: soulloss Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 01:48 AM
oh my goodness, Jim.....

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{NSR}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}



we were JUST talking about you on a thread of us 'old-old-timers' over in emotional needs a few weeks ago.....Lostva, new_beginning, K, JL....we were wondering about you!!!


it is soooo very good to 'see' you....


the 7 year 'twitch' indeed.....


there are quite a few of us still around...ChrisCA123 is still here and dispensing pearls of wisdom as are JL and K, from time to time....


you were/are a stalwart, patient, tenacious and awe-inspiring man....

it is so nice to hear from you...

how did things go with your step-son...I remmeber there being 'issues', but that he still chose to remain with you...


take care Jim, looking forward to hearing more from you...


Dylan
Posted By: Nerlycrzy Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 02:22 AM
Jim,

Of course I remember you!! How great to log on and see a post by you!

Well, tell us-----what's new with YOU?? What have you been up to?

You are still missed around here!
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 02:31 AM
Oh... its been so long!

I'll draft a mini auto-biography and post it on the weekend.
Bring you all up-to-date.

The stepson... the kids... the ex-W...
...life in general.

Its been very good.

NSR/Jim
Posted By: BrambleRose Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 02:37 AM
Jim ~ HI <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I actually looked you up on the boards a few weeks ago wondering what happened to you!

Glad you showed up!
Posted By: Orchid Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 04:02 AM
Jim,

Wow, talk about a blast from the past. Missed you dearly. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Of course we remember you. U & JL were the constant stabilizers who IMHO, my H s/b glad you and the rest of the MB gang kept me from Dv'ing his WS [censored]. LOL!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Anxious to hear an update. Howz the kids?

Funny, I was thinkin' 'bout u a few weeks ago also. Somehow the pix in my mind was you stopped posting here because moved on and even had a nice house by a lake. Any truth to that fantasy? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

L.
Posted By: Bellevue Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 03:40 PM
Hello, I sure do remember you! You were so helpful to everyone here. How is your stepson doing? How about your kids? Are they with you, or with ex-wife? Please, more news!
Posted By: dancingrosey Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 04:53 PM
Oh my! Do I ever, although I had a different screen name way back then. You were one of the first voices of reason that I encountered after d-day and continued to be a source of advice and support through my ups and down. Nice to see you again and hear that the sun really has come up on you.
Posted By: still seeking Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 05:02 PM
The sage returns.
Actually, I thought you were a Mod now. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

SS
Posted By: Pepperband Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 08:37 PM
Quote
The sage returns.
Actually, I thought you were a Mod now. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

SS

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> good one!
Posted By: Pepperband Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 08:39 PM
Quote
I'll draft a mini auto-biography and post it on the weekend.
Bring you all up-to-date.

don't forget !
Posted By: K Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/28/05 09:34 PM
Hey Jim,

I caught you over on EN, but I'll say "hi" here too! Can't wait to see your catch-up post...
Posted By: Quiet_Goodbye Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/29/05 12:42 AM
*waving* Hi Jim,

Wow. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I've thought of you often over the years...

Always with warmth and fondness...

You are a man of grace!
Posted By: justpeachy Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/29/05 12:45 AM
Glad you're back...!
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/29/05 05:05 AM
MelodyLane,
deut,
Susan,
soulloss,
Nerlycrzy,
BrambleRose (thank you for your special help),
Orchid (a real blast),
Bellevue,
dancingrosey,
still seeking,
Pepperband,
K (oh guru),
new__beginning (new_beginning),
justpeachy,
kam6318(I remember...),

It is so good to see all you wonderful people.
Thank God for MB... Steve, your great!


Mini-biography (or not so maxi):

Knew wife for a few years in her/my early teens
Refound each other during the divorce she was going through with her 1st husband
After her annulment...
We married 6/4/88
she brought her son into marriage
We had 2 children together
-boy... now 16 1/2
-girl... now 13 2/3
After 10th anniverary (2nd honeymoon to exotic island)...
within 3 months W gets on on-line chat room...
seduces/seduced by married OM...
'soulmate' fantasy developes
W asks for separation on Easter night 1999
3 days later, D-day & then she takes a weekend vacation with OM
3 days later asks for a divorce
turbulant 4 months during which I try a poor man's Plan A
she leaves to live with OM, out of state (~80 miles away)
I get to have the 3 kids, including stepson!
I try do a better Plan A... after joining MB... but it's way too late.
DV-day 3/19/01 (St. Joseph be my guide)
Within a year, she & OM move semi-full time to nudist camp
(no offense to the natualists out there)
I go through legal battles to keep kids out of camp...
battle was extended to state appelate level...
but ended successfully!

Since then...
In the last 2 months found out there has been trouble between ex-W and OM
(not sure OM is appropriate term for them living together 6+ years)
She had many finanicial problems (pulling big $ out of split our 401K)
She got hit with a DUI
She lost her mother back in June of this year
(a great lady... my mother-in-law)

On Thursday I found out she is now dating someone new [a new OM](?if that makes sense)...
for the first time.
I'm not clear on all the details...
but they (original OM & ex-W) are not living together anymore.
I believe the original OM was recently cheating on ex-W with another woman.
I'm not sure where ex-W is staying most of the time (camp or old appartment)?
I'm not even sure where she's taking the kids (for overnights)...
though legally it can't be the camp.
I will call the kids this Saturday to find out where they are...
I have a right to know!

...that's it. (yeah... sure... mini-bio???)

Ok... so why am I back?...

...not completely sure...
...but I do plan on posting more often, and with more content.

Topics to come...
...the kids... stepson... son... daughter...
much 'parenting' challenges as they get older...
and this new wrinkle with their mom dating again keeps me on my toes
...my life... it's been good!
'faith'-finding/building/understanding/growing
stability in employment
stability in health
...my thoughts
'forgiveness'... and the limits of "human forgiveness"
'remarriage'... options (or not)
'taking back a former WS'... this will be some topic (or not)!

I'll keep you all posted if there is any interest...
...if you have specific questions... reply at any time.
...my e-mail is available to anyone imherczeg@excite.com

Love...
candles...
pepsi... coke... (whatever)
cards...
bacon & PT... and
of course PUSH!

Jim/NSR <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

PS: heretofore I'll post in 'After Divorce: Dating and Relationships' when appropriate.
Posted By: Pepperband Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/29/05 05:22 AM
wanna sell the movie rights?
Posted By: BrambleRose Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/29/05 12:58 PM
Jim ~ I am so relieved you were able to protect your children.

I hope you will pop on over here sometimes....I think there are alot of people struggling who could use your experience, strength and hope.

Thank you for posting an update, it's really good to see you again!
Posted By: justpeachy Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/29/05 01:49 PM
what a story...

sorry for her poor choices.

and they bare-ly (has to add that one in) made it past the 2 year affair relationship mark.

Most affair relationships are stupid and begin both stupidly and end stupidly.

cheating begats cheating begats cheating.

how was i NOT surprised it would end like that?

I do beieve you'll have to worry with what happens with when a WS returns...think some point I will have to worry wtih that one also.

so much for the fantasy turning into real life huh?

glad the kids are doing great!

and do find out their whereabouts.

You go nsr!

I knew you'd do fine.

we both made it over to other side...and yea, I am over on divorced/dating also.

welcome back here and there.
Posted By: Orchid Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/29/05 07:37 PM
NSR,

I found it!!! The WS dictionary lives!!!! It's being used in the advertising business in Asia!! LOL!!

U got mail. with the proof. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

L.
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/29/05 11:27 PM
...as promised...

About the kids:
===========================================

Stepson (now 22 years old)
Long story short, I had to ask him to leave (end of August)
...refuses to get a job
...lied about having one (umpteen times)
...all I ask is for him to get a part-time position
......for gas/insurance/his extra meals/etc. & for a future resume
...still refuses... and now living with his mom (my xW)

He is attemptng to live of the 15K his mother finally gave him
...from the 35K in SS benefits he should of gotten
......from his (now deceased) biological father (story unto itself)
...she asked me to take out $35K from our joint 401K (to pay off son)
......and once again he got short changed.
...trust (xW) is hard to come by.

I PUSH... for him to come back home...
...but only with a job. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

--------------------------------------------

Son (now 16 1/2)
He's doing better in HS...
...but if he fails one more subject... he'll have to stay back a year.
Otherwise a great kid...
...loves me... loves his mom(my xW)... everyone.
...close to God and is hooked on religious music... plays organ at church <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I hope this conflict(mom splitting with original OM)
...doesn't put any pressure on him.

---------------------------------------------

Daughter (now 13 2/3)

She's doing very well in school (next year HS)
She's still in dance(ballet,jazz etc.)
...now the studio is under new management
...and hopefully her last year dance-mates will come back after cheerleading
She's 'boy crazy'... I guess that's common
...but I have to monitor her Internet(chat) activity
......a few older boys were chatting inappropriately...
.........one I had to force a 'NO MORE CONTACT'
.............or else I'd have to get the authorities involved.
.........we talked <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
...she also has written to herself a letter about a sexual fantasy
......I worry
......I wonder how much her mother whould know
......It's tough being a single parent with a child of the opposite gender
......I have a sister who helps though... good to have a support system!
......we talked <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
......If anyone once to offer advice... I'm humble... and willing to listen!
Life goes on.

================================================

About me (age unknown)

I've gotten very involved in church... and faith
... that's what has kept me mostly away from MB.
Lot's of faith building and understanding and learning...
...supported by the fact I do 'religious education' for the young ones.
My faith has an impact on all my thoughts (especially re: xW)...
...that is the perspective my future writting will come from.

Employment wise---
...all is well (programmer)
...it's a little bit far (25 miles each way)
...but I like it, and the people too
...everyone knows the story of money (never enough)

Healthwise---
...taking care of myself (type-2 diabetes)
......BTW: my 'inability' to manage diabetes was x's sole grounds for divorce
...........so much for '...in sickness and in health'
...it's stabilizing
...went through a 3 week bout of 'food poisioning' in Sept.
......lost 22 lbs...(down to below high school weight)
......even lower the infidelity diet! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
......but I've recovered

xW...
...this will be the focus of more postings.

=================================================

Thanks for the interest everyone has shown.

Love to all

Jim/NSR <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/31/05 03:21 PM
My DD's chat with a friend...

"my mom broke up with her bf (they lived 2 gether for 6 yrs) and she aleady moved on 2 this new guy who is so annoying and loud and obnoxious" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

...greener grass?... I think not!

NSR/Jim
Posted By: K Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/31/05 06:42 PM
Hi Jim,

Good to see the update. Laughing about your daughter's chat stuff...

Poptarts and bacon---an MB culinary classic!!

God love you! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: still seeking Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/31/05 08:02 PM
Jim,
You sound good, all things considered.

What's going in inside your head these days?

SS
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/31/05 09:30 PM
I'm going very well..

except this morning I got up...
...and before going into the shower noticed these "spots"...
...and like my son's who is just getting over it...

...chicken pox! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

My daugther had it about 2 weeks ago...
My son's are just starting to 'crust over'...
...mine are all new...
...so I'm out of comission for at least a few days.

Oh well...
... I will survive.
Posted By: Susan Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/31/05 09:51 PM
<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Oh no! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Can't believe you never had these as a kid.

Well, you should know what to do by now for the itching. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Susan
Posted By: Quiet_Goodbye Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/31/05 09:52 PM
You poor guy! I thought chicken pox was a kids disease... your house full of teens/adults got it? Yipes.

I LOL at your "age unknown" reference. That's what I'm going by these days, too. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

And you must be the only person who would notice an extra "_" in my moniker. As in: new_beginning is now new__beginning. LOL You're battin' 1000 on the smile-o- meter today. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Good to hear from you, Jim, and to see how your kids are doing. I always had so much respect for you as a step-dad (and as a person, of course).

Looking forward to reading your next installment about your ex-wife. (I think. I'm actually a little scared to see what's happened with her.)

ed: I wrote OW instead of ex-wife. Had to fix that!
Posted By: 2long Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/31/05 10:07 PM
NSR:

Ah YES! The WS who's a nudist!

I knew I remembered you, but was afraid I'd get you confused with another MBer, but no worries anymore!

Good 2 hear you're doing well.

-ol' 2long
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/31/05 11:09 PM
xW still is at the camp...
...she split with her BF (OM at the time of the A)...
......he stayes in the 'mobile home' they shared on the camp premises...
......she got a trailer home in the same camp.
so... they still 'see'<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> each other... but the relationship seems to have gone south...
...you never know though!

--------

About the 'chicken pox'...
...adults do get it... called 'shingles'...
...and can be very serious (even life threatening)

I did have it in my early childhood ~4 years old

But it is (obviously) possible to get it again as an adult...
...usually a modified viral strain.
I have to stay out of work until the sores heal!
I hope it won't take too long. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

hey... I have the forum! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Jim
Posted By: still seeking Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 10/31/05 11:36 PM
DIL had Shingles in Sept. Nearly drove her mad.

Yes, at least you have the forum.

Grin.

SS
Posted By: Chris -CA123 Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/01/05 04:14 AM
pepsi... coke... (whatever)
B w a h a h a h a h a h a h a h a ! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
No one ever forgets that, do they?

Mr. NSR, glad to see you around!!
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/01/05 04:28 AM
Chris...

It's great to see you around... still posting! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I've just started (came back) a few days ago.

Saw your post in the "Divorced" forum.

Your X and my X... they've perfected the 'narcissism dance.' <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Jim
Posted By: Just Learning Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/01/05 05:32 AM
Hi Jim,

It has been a long time. Take good care of yourself with the chicken pox/shingles that is serious stuff. I am glad you are doing well, and it is good to hear that the kids are working through all of that mess.

I look forward to your presence on this site again. You have a lot to offer.

God Bless,

JL
Posted By: PLEASE HELP Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/01/05 05:33 AM
<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
JIM!!!!!
Do I remember you???

Do WS love us but find they aren't IN live with us??


Did Sheba or Lostva write long (but VERY WISE posts) LOL!!???

Does PT need cooking lessons????

WOW... I've stayed in contact with Lori and we've talked about you a few times..

So good to see you back posting... I'm back because I'm back where I started with my 2nd... I mean first.... I mean W I mean WS.... OH forget it... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />... it's too hard to figure what she is anymore....other than back with her OM again.... (read my post in Divorced/Divorcing.. for an update...

I wonder if your WS will try and work things out with you now... or if you even want to... I should be around for a while so I will support whatever decision you make....


I'm glad about your commitment to the Lord... and your teaching there.... I taught the kids (you may rememeber) and that was the light in my life...
Now... I have TWO awesome grandsons...that are the light of my life (and I in their's)

Raising a Daughter... well.. I can help a little there... it's tough though!! I'll email you some thoughts later..
Gotta go for now... welcome back... this place is different now... not as much support for Plan "A"... everyone tells the newbies to go to B in weeks!! They need you here.... you can help..


GOOD LUCK AND PRAYERS FRANK
P.S.

And BTW how rich would we be if we could bottle the "Infidelity Diet!!
Posted By: lostva Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/01/05 09:00 PM
Hi, Jim!

Frank told me you were here so I had to pop in just to see you.

It's good to hear your update and that you're doing well. I've thought of you often over these years.

Ah, well, better go fix some dinner. (Wanna know what it's NOT? LOL)

Luv ya!

Lori
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/01/05 09:57 PM
JL, Frank and Lori,

Always a pleasure to see, and hear from you.

I'll be posting more often, as time permits.

Keep in touch.

Jim <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/05/05 01:21 AM
More updates...

Besides splitting up with the OM (after 6+ years of living together... seems unlikely they will reconcile...),

I now find out she(XW) has been out of work since June...
...and hasn't found anything yet.

She'll still be staying at the out-of-state camp(>110 miles from me and kids) when the kids aren't with her...
...but...
according to my stepson (spoke to him just minutes ago)...
...she's looking to find a new trailer(mobile home) park near the kids on those weekends when she has EOW visiting rights! She can't afford the rent on the old apartment & the camp on NO salary forever!

Wow...
...I figured something had to happen.

I'm not sure what's going to happen with my stepson...
...maybe he'll get a job too... and help her with the up-keep of the new in-state trailer park.

BTW: one of 2 parks she's looking at... is in a town adjacent to where we live!<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Interesting... maybe upsetting!<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Jim
Posted By: BrambleRose Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/05/05 01:47 AM
Well then, God nudged you in the right direction for support in a rather odd timely fashion, ya think?! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

If I recall, you and I live in relative close proximity....there isn't ANY place around here you can live without salary for long...

Trust God to take care of this!
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/05/05 01:57 AM
Bram...

His providence surpasses all.

BTW: I work(Livingston you may presume) close to where you live.

Jim
Posted By: BrambleRose Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/05/05 05:01 AM
Well then...I'm working in East Hanover <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/05/05 01:25 PM
My stepson recieved an e-mail from his mom (my XW)...
...and I'm not really a prude...
...but...

...here is the picture (from her camp ) she sent to my stepson.

I understand adult humor... (has it's place)...
...what I don't understand is why she wanted to take my 2 younger children to this camp!... this camp is not the "place" for them (ages 10 & 13 at the time)!
(thanks Bram for the assistance in that legal battle!)

Again, she plans on staying at the camp, except on EOW visitations... (EOW out here in the near future)!

Has she changed?...
...I think NOT!

NSR
Posted By: BrambleRose Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/05/05 01:32 PM
Oh my.

Thank goodness she is handing you documentation that you can use to protect your children!!!!!

Jim ~ I do remember pointing you in the direction of assistance ~ but I can't remember for the life of me what I said to you!

What did I say!? I'm glad it helped, whatever it was!
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/05/05 01:43 PM
Bram...

You got me in touch with an attorney who took my case to the NJ appelate level...
...in the end, the judge in the original trial(who originally found it was OK for XW to practice nudism in the house while children and OM were there), finally reversed her decision (after another $2000 in legal fees).

My kids will appreciate it when they're older.

Thanks again.

Jim
Posted By: BrambleRose Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/05/05 02:15 PM
Wow. I'm so glad I said something that helped. I was so incredibly horrified (still am!) at a mother who would put her children into such an environment.

I have been thinking about your daughter for a few days now, because I wasn't sure I wanted to say this, but I think I should.

Jim ~ I don't think that talking to your daughter about spiritual and physical chastity and purity is the right thing for you to do. Not that I am against chastity and purity at all! (you know this though!)

I think that your daughter has likely been deeply traumatized by the events of the last few years, and exposed to things in her most impressionable formative years that have damaged her.

I think that as a man, you probably should not be talking to her yourself, but instead, seeking out professional help for her. And in her case, it should be a woman!!!

The best help you can give your daughter is to recognize when a problem is too big for you to handle, and to ask for help. You can take loving action to provide her with protection and guidance by seeking out those with the education and tools to do so.

Your daughter has had some incredibly dysfunctional female behaviors modeled for her by your ex. The role sexuality plays in her life has been taught to her by your exwife. Do not underestimate the power of your ex's modeling on your daughter.

In case I have not made myself clear - get your daughter a female psychiatrist with some experience in childhood sexual development.

With therapy, I would hope she can regain some of the self respect, self love that she will need in order to apply the lessons you can give her regarding purity.

What you can do, is love her and treat her like a princess, model for her the type of man you would hope she would seek out!

Without self respect and self esteem (which I believe the dysnfunctional sexual exposure has probably deeply harmed) all of the guidance from you about purity will be lost.
Posted By: MrsWondering Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/05/05 02:45 PM
NSR,

My wife and I are relatively new here but we are glad you are back posting. Your experience and MB knowledge will be greatly appreciated.

I've heard some recent grumbling that things are not as good around here as they used to be so hopefully your presence will atone for some of the "misconduct".

Please help out here on GQII when possible.

Mr. Wondering
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/13/05 04:04 AM
OK...
...a bit more detail...
...and no... I am not making this up... honestly!

It turns out the my XW's BF (the original OM causing my divorce) was 'chating' and 'e-mailing' with his new OW months before XW/OM discovery.

This OW... was a "friend"(at the camp) of my XW!

...and the double-clincher..
(1)
...OW is an ex-European-porn-star (unmarried but with an older child(daughter) with her {whose father was the photographer of the OW in her prime}.

...and...
(2)
... when the OW's trailer flooded out...
...my XW brought them(OW & her DD) into their(XW & OM)'s trailer.

In the final month's before XW's discovery... the OW was 'jumping' on OM (?OM's bed) to 'wake' him to go to work...
...this while my XW was there (still unemployed!

...is there something bizzar with this picture...
...or is it just me?

And... my XW is still on very good terms with the OM's mother (not quite mother-in-law since they never married)... maybe even visting the OM's mother this Thanksgiving?

My stepson filled me in on most of these details...
...he recognizes that my XW's substantial weight gain (post menapusal) may have contributed to the OM's new cheating...
...as well as XW's unemployment
...aw well as XW's substantial increase in drinking (wine) - verging on alcoholism...

...yikes... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

I am sooooooooo glad she has no intention of returning to our [sham] marriage...

all rights reserved... when the movie comes out...:)

Jim
Posted By: Bellevue Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 11/13/05 07:10 PM
My guess is that they appreciate it now and that they also appreciated it THEN. Nothing grosser than a non parent naked around kids with their parent. ugh.
And I'm not a prude either. But as our son became aware of the sex differences between us, I stopped letting him come into the shower with me. Up until then it was really sweet, especially when he was little tiny, I'd hold him under the shower head and he would tilt his head back and close his eyes and laugh at the water ..... And that way I knew exactly where he was when I cleaned up.

You saved your kids NSR.
Posted By: NSR Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 12/16/05 12:43 AM
Further followup:

XW is now no longer dating...
...her new boyfriend decided to go for a platonic relationship.

x-OM (2 1/2 months after breaking up with my XW)... is now engaged to a new love (ring and all){his 4th serious relationship}... and not this one is not the ex-porn-star.

And now she (XW) wants me to pull another $5K from our 401K?
What happend to the last years $35K???

===============

Maybe XW's blog 'heading/title' indicates the depth of her maturity.

Quote
EVERYTHING...happens for a reason. no regrets.
...if you can go through 44 years and have no regrets...
then... you haven't lived... ...or have not taken any risks...
...or...
...lived & taken risks... and not realized they weren't worth it!

...and...

Quote
There's only now There's only here Give in to love Or live in fear No other path No other way No day but today No day but today....RENT
...if There's only now... why dream of a future?
...if There's only here... where is life's journey?
...Give into love... but not if it's lust!
...Or live in fear... when you live in lust!

...No other path No other way...
......if you don't know the way (and truth and life)!
...No day but today...
......if you see no start to a life filled with meaning and purpose.

...maybe it's OK for a song...
...but not a life's direction and meaning.

Clearly my and my XW's perspective doth diverge.
Posted By: cinderella Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 12/16/05 02:05 AM
I remember, too. I'm still here though I have fewer pearls of wisdom these days.....
Posted By: still seeking Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 12/16/05 02:22 AM
Jim,
I see some frustration still, but what else is going on inside your head?

Pretty good most days?

SS
Posted By: Nellie2 Re: Does anyone remember me(NSR)? - 12/16/05 04:00 AM
I remember you as well, and was wondering how you were doing. I am glad to see you back. I'm sorry your ex-wife doesn't seem to have gained much common sense.
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