I hate this place because of all the pain. The pain that the WS brings to a family. When will they get their heads out of their a55es. I’m sick of it.

We give 2x4 around here sometimes, but I truly think that IRL some WS need a real 2x4.

I don’t know why I’m even typing this. Just feeling kinda emotional today. Nothing wrong – it is just getting to me I guess.

I did just finish reading Pep’s “Dear Daddy” thread. Thanks for bringing that one back. I cried.

This chit shucks

Now I do love this place at the same time because of all the caring people and help everyone gets.

Have a good day, I’m trying to.

I hate this place too M2L. I love the fact that there are people here like you who have helped people like me and allows me to vent now and then.
Do you have a link to that Dear Daddy thread?

I know what you mean! Sort of a catch 22...

It's okay to have mixed signals. Overwhelming place and yet a hopeful place.

Hope & success takes on different shapes for everyone.

Moody blues, sunny dazes, fog moments, tear jerkeers.

Passionate place and a compassionate space. Lots of dsyfunctional repairs happen here.

One thing for sure much of what happens here is REAL Ventilation.

I see things very differently. Have learned so much.


I had to leave for a long time. Too much going on in my real life and helping others in never ending crisis's.

In addition to both of your 'hate it/love it' sentiments, I'm thinking I could be addicted to it.

Married Forever mentioned the concept awhile back. What say others?

Ace

Yeah - like others here I stick around to try to help people thru their pain. I know it too well just like we all do. When a newbie shows up and thinks that their life and M are over and they have no hope, I try to give them a little hope and a path for what to do and not do.

Don't know how long I will be here for. Some have been here for a long time and I'm thankful for them and their help.

Anyway - just trying to help where I can when I can.

best to all

M2L-

I love you! I'm grateful that you are here even through it does get difficult and overwhelming and you feel like you just want to pull your hair out sometimes...

But we wouldn't have it any other way, now would we?

When i'm doing well, I try to do my "community service" also! LOL

Only thing I can think of to give back for all the help that I've gotten here...

Such wonderful people...lifting each other up with smiles and hugs, and words of encouragement...FAMILY!

We need a picnic! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Okay...any ideas on where it should be? I'll bring the potatoe salad if everyone's up for it! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> LOL

S4B-

I'm glad you offered to bring potato salad 'cause I can't make decent one to save my life. I do make an awesome apple pie though....

OW...I'm up for that! I love apple pie!

TEHE...makes my think of "American Pie!" LMAO

Homie's on the counter with the apple pie! OMG!

During one of my sessions with Steve Harley back when my ex and I were in the middle of the chaos, I mentioned I was drawn to this board like a moth to a flame. He suggested limiting exposure to this board only to muy situation.

While you can get much support, you can also get dragged down. I've been in both situations. If you are in the midst of the rollercoaster, be carefull.

HL

Thanks for sharing that HL!

I agree, there has been times when I've had to pull back b/c I felt overwhelmed!

HL,

I can see your point and I've asked my H to help be my monitor....but I love feeling like I am healing and that I might have something to contribute now and then even if I am a newbie (tomorrow is my 2nd month anniversary) ...but I could spend hours lurking and posting....hence my feeling that I may be addicted. But I get happy by helping, in spite of the pain telling me I may need to log off.....

But that does not mean I can't come to a picnic.....I will bring the grilled chicken Caesar with garlic croutons and decadent double chocolate brownies, all gooey with mocha frosting. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Ace

I'm soOOOOOO there! Grilled Chicken Ceasar and BROWNIES!

TO Die for! GO ACE!

This is a hard place t/b yet it is a refuge for many. Often it is a temporary place for most and some stay longer to give back what they have been given. I'm the later. I was helped tremendously. In reality the OW and WS owed their lives to my being on MB. Well....what I mean to say is their counterpart. OW is a person (one who I still would not help if needed - <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> ) and the WS is dead (H is back).

The help here is more than I believe any Harley imagined. We are grateful for their kindness in letting us have this place to post. I have heard and even spoke to people from different continents. This A is earthwise <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> and so is the support for the BS and family. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Now in regards the picnic.... I will bring the chips and killer salsa. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

If you like, I can throw in a pineapple upside down cake. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Aloha,
L.

THANK YOU ORCHID......for being the latter....willing to stay around and help those of us starting out.



Are you saying that if you had not been on MB posting that you might have physically altered the physical lives of now-dead WS and OW? (I'm foggy about the 'counterpart' part!) Glad H is back....how long was he 'dead'?

Did you post your success story on the thread seeking encouragement for plan B 'residents' of Betrayedville? I'd love to read it, especially since yours is an MB success.

Thanks,
Ace

PS I'll go for the pineapple upside-down cake! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> (And I'll bring lawn darts to our faux picnic cuz in reality they're outlawed, I think.)

good one LOL. Brings me back to when my sister and I would throw them up in the air at each other.

funny stuff

Pineapple underside down cake...awe! I'm looking forward to that!

lawn darts...COOL! How about a pinta? That's always fun to watch...

And can we bring our pets? LOL

I take an MB leave of absence when I need to

or

I make a conscious decision to only post naughty/funny/silly threads

I can tell when it's time to back off when I feel the desire to ram my words down someone's throat

Pep

Are we drawing for partners in the potato sack race?

S4B,

The pineapple cake was Orchid's idea on the previous page....just want to give credit where credit was due. And I like the pinata idea....make it a huge pig so we can pretend it's the OW while we're bashin' the stuffin #@&* out of her!!!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Ace

P.S. I pick Pep for the sack race cuz I like a challenge...right Pep?

Thank you for all of you...the encouraging and the discouraged... if i didn't find this place i would be absolutely INSANE.... i feel the same way... thanks to many here, at this point in my M i know i made the right decision by following through with the D.
p.s. I can make a great frozen marguerita!!!! my magic bullet rocks!!! hehe...

Maria

I'll bring the roaster & hickory chips. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

What's our preference? Beef / Pork / Lamb? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Who's up for the Buns / Plates? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Back to my original post that in addition to loving/hating this place, I think I'm addicted to it. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

How's it going to look on my work eval when it says I was fired for non-appearance because I was posting what I would bring to a pretend picnic and that's why I'm perpetually pre-occupied whenever I do try to perform my work projects?

I'm outtie......anyone else addicted? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Ace

i am !!! and i'm new!!! i don't think i've gotten ANY work done today... but my boss knows what i'm going through... so, i don't think she's expecting much from me <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Maria

So SW, what are your symptoms suggesting you might be addicted to MB posting or lurking? Loving it or hating it?

It's difficult for me as I cannot post during the day even though I can lurk occasionally. But my co-workers do not know what I am going through (ain't selective RH a drag) so I have to put up a good front, even when I'm falling apart.....try 4 D Days and you'll see why recovery is so hard to conceptualize at times. Thank God for My Mr. Romance, always being there when I am triggering or just having a 'why me?' pity party.

I want to think my 'addiction' is due to the tremendous help in healing I've received from posting and studying.....it seems like I gravitate to it for strength.

Does anyone else ever feel this way or is it just me....being strange, weird, late, backwards and often wrong?

Ace <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

PS Did I miss the pinata at the picnic? Dang, I wanted to punch the OW pig in the petunias! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Ace,
I am a poster by nature.... when i was first married, i was actually pregnant.. and lost the baby..i had found a great support group there... it helped me through so much that nobody in my circle really understood, except for my mom, but she is no longer here.... she passed away 9 years ago... so, i was kind of left on my own to figure things out... physically and spiritually...
when i started having marriage troubles i started lurking here... then i decided to open up about what was going on and posted... and the same as the pregnancy website i would visit, i felt comfortable sharing my story.. and reading others and healing... MUCH more quickly... helping me KNOW that the decision i made was the RIGHT one for me and my children... it was UNHEALTHY to live like that.. my kids are happy again.. they don't have to see me cry...

I have been wanting to ask this question without TJ someone.

My thread and it is all over the place so why not ask here?

What does Retrouvaille mean?

tnx

M2L,
I believe that it is a program like a Marriage Encounter Weekend. It is put on by the Catholic church but it is availiable to anyone. Hope that helps.

M2L:

My Tagline says it all now....

LG

M2L,

I for one appreciate what a fine thread you've created here....and thanks for the picnic, Rock.

I saw a thread on Retrouville way back in January when I registered where a poster described how it helped their M. Have you done a search? I've seen it spelled various ways so keep trying. Or there's always Google.

Was my addiction question a TJ? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> If so, sorry, ... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />... but if it helps justify the question..... SW and I love it here so much we're addicted <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

(And we want to go to the picnic <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />...are we still invited?)

Ace <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I have not searched it b/c I thought it was a term that was used just here like WS FOG.

Off to look it up

thanks

missed this part on my last post - sorry.

sure a picnic sounds good. You don't want to have it by me though - way too cold still in Wis.

I'm moving one day - winters suck more and more each year.

I guess south louisiana would be to hot for you guys! LOL

my name is carnation - and I am addicted to this place

despite what my current name says - I think I registered in 2005... I am here because I grow and learn something every single time I click on...

Texas here ~ I can bring the brisket

What ARE you talking about M2L? It's above freezing! It's balmy Wiscowsin weather! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

anyone up to coming to Philly for the picnic <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> CHEESESTEAKS!!!!!

Maria

HI, Maria, i emailed you back...LOL...Philly...Cool!

Love the heat and the south. BBQ is perfect



Yeah it's about 35-40 today, but it is still geting old fast.

strivn... got your email... thanks <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> i can feel the love <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

M2L.... philly is perfect... no natural disasters...no MAJOR SNOW.. and nice change in weather patterns... city of brotherly love.... love it here...

M2L,

Glad you added the "+ Picnic" to your title. Did you find Retrouville info? Sounds like you've traveled all over looking for a nice picnic spot. Great idea, Rock.

I was wondering about some of us who say we love it so much we think we're addicted. If/when you think we should start an "MB lurking/posting addiction" thread, just give us the heave/ho.

Thanks,
Ace

Hi Carnation, You say you registered in 2005 but this registration only includes 36 posts from 2007. I looked but couldn't find your sitch and you don't include a sig. line. It doesn't really matter, but I was wondering why you were here in 05, why you left, and now why you're back again. Just curious.

What symptoms do you have suggesting you're addicted to MB forums?

Ace

PS Texas briskit sounds great on the barbie!

I don't know if I would call myself addicted. I just know that I find so much comfort here from all the wisdom of the experts. I think I should be doing more though in the real life world of my marriage. If that makes any sense.

[color:"red"] I just read this ... [/color]



your challenge will be making a veddy veddy VEDDY OLD decrepit lady run-while-laffin' hysterically.... usually a very "wet" experience (if you get my drift) ... but I got game

Pep

I think it makes perfect sense, Rock. I don't think it is a totally negative thing to gravitate to where you and I find hope and healing...

....but when posting makes you chronically late for work, you can't focus, you find yourself lurking hourly and when you can't post from work, you email co-posters suggesting that they check out certain threads that could use their perspective based on what you've learned previously.....that borders on the negative side of an addiction....IMVHO. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

For instance, early today I saw that Knack123 needed help from all the pros. Chrisner and I were the only ones posting....two virtual rookies from different perspectives....I suggested C put out an APB but then had to go to work.

He did eventually, but I checked that thread every hour, hoping and praying someone would come to Knaks's assistance. He posted 3 pleas for help and then C did his APB. When Mulan, Mark and Pep (and maybe another person) showed up with solid advice, I quit lurking and worked for about an hour.

In the meantime, I got very little work done.

I think I need an intervention. Any ideas?

Ace

Pep,

Your timing in finding my sack race challenge and posting to it is 'in-PEP-ible'.


I was just talking about you (thanks for helping Knak).


Glad you got game. If the lady driving from Houston to Florida can wear them, you can 'depend' on a pair for our sack race! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Ace the Addict

While I'm baring my shortcomings here....does anyone else have an obsessive/compulsive inclination involving numbers? Like just as I was about to log off, I noticed that this thread had 499 views....so I just had to click on it to give it an even increment of 500.

Hey Pep.....you said that Chrisner is not an idiot....yet, but wouldn't you say I'm nearly as far down the road as he is?

Ace (the addicted idiot) <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Hi Ace -- if you are interested, look up carnation or carnation2. Every time I get a new computer, I end up having to redo my log in names.

Carnation2 did have a sig line... carnation did not... it should all be there...

and, no offense - but brisket is done on a smoker....

Hi Carnation,

I'll look up your sitch.

In the meantime, get that brisket into the smoker! (no offense taken....I don't care how you 'cook' it....) LOL <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

So where's the picnic today?

PHILLY!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
although we're getting hit with some sleet and snow today <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> booooo.. it was just 78 degrees on tuesday...

Hi Ace,

Oh so sorry that you can only read this and can't post while at work. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Honestly...I'm thinking of taking a vacation next week just so I can post all day....maybe I'll get my addiction out of my system. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Thanks for your kind words, M2L.....we newbies sometimes wonder if we have a place to fit in somewhere (at least I do) and your wishing I could post in the daytime makes me feel welcome....even if I'm constantly bordering on TJing your thread with my addiction talk. (I do love it here....maybe too much!) <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Great thread, M2L and very needed awareness, too.

Ace

brisket all rubbed up and smokin' away....

DFW area here....

go Mavs

oh< ace....LOL...HAHAHAHA...I think you need a break...

Jeez, take a vacation but NOT to post here! LMAO <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Ace and all others:

Please feel free to TJ with anything you want. Most threads here are very specific as they should be.

I too love to help and be helped here. I still don't understand all of the things going on within some of the post. I guess somethings are inside jokes.

Sack race - I take ML, we could win by a big hair - right??

DFW - great place and the food sound damn good!!!
Ace

I think I started the TJ. All I said was "Let's have a pcnic"! Lol!
<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Rock...you also started the sack race:





Ace

Now I'm off to work.....what a waste....all I do is lurk all day.....that's why I should take a vacation.

Ace

I hope Ace is not an Air Traffic Controller <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

That was funny. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Rock, you did say something about the picnic and then, I have big shoulder, will have to admit that I said I would bring the potatoe salad! LMAO <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I don't ever remember participating in a sack race...I may not be a good candidate for that one...could get some good laughs though...I do remeber the three legged race...LOL...kinda the same! LOL

I could use some laughs. So that settles it, you are my 3 legged race partner. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

No I'm not an air traffic controller....that WAS funny M2L. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

So where did you have today's picnic? In the Philly snow storm? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Ace

M2L....if you're gonna change the title of this thread, the least you could do is bump it!

OK Here's another topic: Why would it be detrimental for an addicted MB lurker/poster to be an air traffic controller? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I will be flying next month so I hope no ATC is addicted here. Any ATC out there please watch the radar.

thanks

All 300,000,000 of us

EDITED TO SAY:

[color:"red"] Hey!!! Maybe2Late....yooooo hooooo!

I've conquered my addiction to posting on MB so you can fly now......yeah, I am an air traffic controller - sort of- and I had to fly down to the 4th page to find this thread...

...jeeeez....that withdrawal to addiction was a bear! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

(And, actually I feel pretty important that this thread slipped so far while I was in withdrawal..... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />)

But I saw that Still's sig line had the info you were looking for, so it was worth it to fly into the depths to resurrect the picnic...

...and lookeeee who joined our picnic (below) and is bringing the fried checken to go along with Carnation's S M O K E D brisket....(is it about done, Car?)

See, I have this new lap-top so I COULD post during the day, but I did not because I dumped the demons of posting addiction! Whooo hoooo! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Anyhow, I posted this last night, hoping you'd see it and Still and Mom and Car have popped on in to say 'hi'. So it was worth it to rebump the thread (and our picnic).

Are you there M2L? [/color]





Did you find the answer to this question? I just noticed that Stillhurting01's sig line has it listed.

Ace,

Retrouvaille is a weekend offered through the Catholac church for troubled marriages. Those that are seperated on the verge of divorcing.

You don't have to be any particular religion to participate. It's made of of couples who have been in difficult situations also .We had 2 couples dealing with infidelity. On of the couples was weeks away from a divorce. There is also a preist there.

We had every religion there on our weekend. They tell you right up front that this will not fix your M in one weekend but show you how to really communictae with your partner. They frown if one of the partners is still involved in the affair. There is also 6 weeks follow up.

If you do go do the follow ups. That was our downfall (not besides WH really didn't want to be there) Plus our follow ups wheir 3 hours away in a different state. It cause many arguments between us.

You can google it and they have much more information. It was around 4-5 hundred but they only asked you to pay at the end if you felt you got something out of it. I highly recommend it. It didn't work for me but nothing is 100%

If you have any other questions let me know.

Still

LOL!

What a thread!

I hate that I have been missing out on all the fun!

Carnation, I'm a DFW-ite (?) also, howdy neighbor!

What I want to know is...

where is the fried chicken?

What kind of respectable picnic does not have fried chicken.

And yes I'm terribly addicted.

Got a problem with that <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

MOM, No I don't have a problem with you being addicted. But I was late to work and had to stay late (out of guilt) several times last week. I broke those addiction demons, I hope. (It's almost been a week since I last posted.) And Mom....I vote that you bring the fried chicken to the pretend picnic. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

STILL: Maybe2Late was asking about Retrouvaille info (mentioned earlier in this thread.) So I'm hoping he'll check out this thread.....since he's the one who started it.

Ace

ooops

Still

Hi Mom - West side here

My main hobbies (other than this one !) are scrapbooking and reading

I like cloudy, rainy days - I'm in luck today

enjoy !

Hey M2L.....please check out my edited message above

#3208452

Thanks, Still for the Retro info....sorry my post was a little confusing but I edited it so it should make sense now........ya get a little rusty going through 'post-addiction-withdrawal, y'know... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Ace

PS Anyone else wanna join the picnic?

Thanks for the info Still. I saw the term a few times and was just wondering what it was. Thanks again.

BTW I'm a FBH, not a FBW. No big deal with me. I just wanted you to know what sex I was and therefore where my POV is coming from.

As it so happens I will be flying next month. Please leave the computer out of the control tower then. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

MB2L,

Sorry sometimes I just assume everyonr is female. I'm bad <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Even if you are in recovery I think the program has alot to offer. I wish it worked for me.

Still

Still & M2L,

My bad.....see what withdrawal does to a foggy BS brain <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> ....but I fixed the gender thing, I think.

Ace

Ace,

Don't feel too bad ifeel like I have been in a fog forever. My withdrawel will be starting soon from WH.

Fogg clearing at the control towers? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Still

Thanks, still.....saw where you're signed up for Chrisners' Killer Bees. I posted a silly thought just before you and then regretted it. I'll remove it if you think it's too insensitive......

....but I have to go for now...gotta clear the jets for take off (and prove that I AM NOT ADDICTED)

The fog is lifting! (good one, by the way)

The Flying Ace <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

See, DH likes these kinds of days, not me. West side is cool. Don't get much of an opportunity to get down there with two kids etc. We are north of the metroplex out in the 'burbs. You've probably never heard of our itty bitty hamlet.

I love to read too although I have to admit my MB addiction has put quite a damper on my book reading. I still keep buying books though, guess I need to actually start reading them.

I tend to have an addictive personality anyway I think, so it's better that I'm addicted to MB than many other things I could think of. Besides I'm not ready to fly solo yet, I'm afraid I might get complacent and forget what I've learned and I don't want that to happen!

What kind of stuff do you guys like to read? What was the last thing you bought to read?

Actually, I am South and West of the Metroplex....

Let me clarify - I like to collect scrapbook supplies...

Just got ~ The Glass Castle and quite excited to start it... normally I prefer nonfiction...

Fave movie lately has been -- Little Miss Sunshine !!!

LOL! Have to laugh at that. I have oodles of scrapbooking stuff...I have completed a grand total of about 3, count 'em, 3...pages.

The Glass Castle? Haven't heard of that one. The last movie I saw was Zodiac (I love that kind of stuff). I want to see 23 and Premonition. The last book I bought was Wherever you go, there you are...but haven't started it yet...

did the picnic take place and i missed it? haha...

We're just waiting for this crappy weather to end.

I need a picnic, too. Who cares about the weather....well, except for the fog that just descended about an hour ago....but we have MC today so hopefully it will clear....standby....

Thanks SW and Rock for resurrecting this thread at such an intriguing time....(due to fog).

Ace

Ace,
You're very welcome <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> i enjoyed this thread too much to let it go...
I hope you're all enjoying SPRING!!! come on summer... forget the picnics.. it's time for BBQ's...

Ribbbbbs! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Oh no Ace - now this thread has an odd number to it!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

M2L...ya been readin' the fishing forum and not commenting? That's the only place I mentioned my compulsive obsessions with multiples of 5, I think.

Speaking of fishing, BBQ salmon sounds good, too. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Ya made me laugh out loud, M2L. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Great thread...keep it goin' as I have to get back to work....again.

Ace

Ace, you wrote this back on 3-15-07

"While I'm baring my shortcomings here....does anyone else have an obsessive/compulsive inclination involving numbers? Like just as I was about to log off, I noticed that this thread had 499 views....so I just had to click on it to give it an even increment of 500."

I hope you are not a Greek boat captain. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

We used to catch lots of salmon and lake trout around the power plant intakes this time of year when I was doing that sort of stuff. One of the guys had an old fashioned smoke house on his property and we ate smoked salmon till mid-winter on almost every job. (When I say a lot; I mean a LOT...like a few hundred pounds of the stuff after it was turned into fillets-We used to share it with the security guys so they'd let us take it out around 4 am or so and split it again with the owner of the motel so we could use his walk-in freezer till the job ended)

Ace,

I knew we had lurkers in the fishin' forum...Somebody give me a little feed back, will ya? It ain't easy trying to keep coming up with a meaningful segue from fishing to MB principles, ya know... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Actually, I have another idea to try out and I'll be working on it this week. When I get time to sit down and put the keys to it, I'll post it. (For all the lurkers who read but don't post) <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

And, Ace...for it to be REAL BBQ, it has got to be brisket.

Unless you're from Tennessee, then it's pork shoulder.

Mark

Brisket – sounds good. Heck any BBQ sounds good. Hey, that reminds me Mark. How’s that oozing wound of yours? All better?

M2L,

It's got skin on it again. The graft took really well and I can even work out again. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

It looks like h377. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
It feels like cardboard glued to my chest. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
It will take a long time to be really healed (We all know about lengthy healing processes around here) <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

But it's better today than yesterday and will be even better tomorrow...Hey, it is just like recovery from an A, isn't it? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Mark

BBQ's and oozing wounds.. YUM!!! haha...

SW....it's M2L's thread ya bumped so I guess you/we have to take what we get, huh?

M2L, actually I am honored that you recalled (and dug up and cut and pasted) my first mention about my compulsive obsessive behavior! I guess I mentioned it first here and then secondly on the fishing forum about my multiples of 5, (not odd and even as I alluded to by saying "even of 500").

Actually, I was just trying to segue from this 'love/hate MB' thread onto the fishing forum to generate for comments for Mark's masterpieces.

Have you read them M2L? C'mon, now, humor me now that you've attempted to insult me.....fishing boat captain...hey I want to go fishing with my H, so who knows? Maybe I will take up captainship when I grow up. (That, of course, is assuming I WILL grow up one day....LOL!)

Ace

No, not a fishing boat. Remember when I was guessing your job and hoped that MB didn't interfere with it. Well I was hoping that you were not the captain of the boat that sank off the Greek Island. You know, reading here too much to see the rocks coming at you. LOL



And no I have not been reading that thread about fishing. Sorry. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Ouch....double whammy....I was too lazy to confirm your 'profession' you mentioned on the previous page and I had fishing on my mind.

Mark's thread is entitled "Fishing Lessons for Ace" but it is much much more and has helped my H and me in our M as well. It's not too late to start raeding it now, M2L....chapter by chapter.

Whatever new idea you have Mark, please post it in GQII, K? I'm glad I did not suggest the Recreation section for my fishing lessons, but I must admit that with over 400 views I thought you/we would have more feedback, too.

Ace

PS M2L...when I post my chapter 6 of My Mr. Romance thread, you'll see a bit of what I actually do. Have you read that thread in the Romance section?

Ace,

I have a couple of ideas I’m working on, but have been a bit down for a few days. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

It’s a combination of things, really. This past weekend was the one-year anniversary of the first emails and phone calls that I discovered last May. To make matters worse, W did a couple of things in the last week that I considered major IB. She bought a new camera for a couple hundred bucks. Not a lot of money, but it was the same day that she was complaining about my medical bills and how we have no money to pay them. My share is only a couple thousand bucks or so out of nearly $70K.

Then on Thursday she had to drive about two hours away for work. She didn’t tell me she was going, but that wasn’t what I had a problem with. After she got done at her customer’s plant, she traveled another 3 ½ hours to visit her sister. I have no problem with SIL, but I didn’t find out she was going until she called me to tell me why she was going to be late getting home.

Then on Monday morning I found some saved (CD back-ups) emails, poems and stories to/from/about OM. I asked her to eliminate all copies of them and she did, as far as I can determine, but has been standoffish ever since. I could do a major vent on what these contained, but it would only get my blood pressure up and it will pass eventually. Suffice it to say that some of this stuff hurt a LOT. I’ll take another surgery over what I read Monday morning any day. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

And yep, I heard the line "Can't we just move forward and forget about the past?" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

OTOH, W and are scheduled to attend a biblically based marriage conference the last weekend of April. She made the arrangements for the conference on Monday and I made the motel reservations yesterday. I have been wanting to ask her all morning what it is she expects to get from this conference, but have decided to wait till she seems more able to discuss real issues instead of feeling hurt over what she perceives to be criticism. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

And the good news is that I’m working out again and my chest is healing nicely. It no longer looks like I have a cube steak glued to my chest. It still looks pretty gross but seldom hurts (much) any more... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Sort of like the rest of my life… <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Mark

Hi Mark,

Sorry for your setback, or "opportunity for growth" as it may be. What's with the early April triggers? You're one of many who mentioned it. Mine are because Ressurection Sunday is when H started his 'friendly chatter' with OW according to the cell records and emails.

Regarding your upcoming M conference.....kudos for not asking what she expects from it. Just go and be thankful she made the initial arrangements. Where is it?

This thread is for 'all topics' so can ya give me an inkling of what you're thinking about or are ya gonna make me/us wait?

Glad you're healing well but I think we'll take 'cube steak' off the BBQ list of options....whatdayathink....?

Ace

Ace,

It's just outside Indianapolis of all places...Could be worse, if it was near Louisville, I wouldn't be going.

[color:"red"]"can ya give me an inkling of what you're thinking about or are ya gonna make me/us wait?"[/color]

I'm thinking about "the right tools"...That enough of a tease for ya? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Well, cube steak isn't of much good on the barbie anyway. Aren't you glad I didn't say it looked like a raw chicken breast right after the first surgery? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Of course when I first went to the doctor it looked more like a pork chop. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Anything else you'd like me to spoil while I'm here? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

As for my "growth opportunity;" if I had read this [email]cr@p[/email] right after Dday I'd be in a different forum right now. Some of what was involved simply makes me sad, but a couple of things make me want to start shooting...Or is that shouting? I kept myself under control. I didn't put any holes in the wall (I just got the ones from DS break up with GF fixed not long ago.) I'm not that fond of the smell of paint, Spackle and taping mud.

The whole thing just irritates the heck out of me...From my point of view it seems that she lost weight, got into the best shape of her life, got hit on by a serial cheater whose W had left him for it and began writing sexy love stories and poems for the schmuck. Then, when she decided to end the A and stay married, she gained 40 pounds, stopped working out, decided SF was not all that it was cracked up to be and started trying to write stories about our granddaughter....ARGH!!!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Thanks! I feel much better now. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Not really, but it might have helped gerade ein wenig...

Maybe the problem has to do with Spring being a time for love... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Excuse me while I throw up... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Of course she also took care of me this winter when I really needed her. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Mark

Mark,

Go ahead, SHOUT! Hope you got it OUT! (Just don't shoot)

Glad it made you feel better. And glad she was there for you this winter. AAAAAND....glad she is signed up for that marriage conference with you.....aaaaannnnnddddd glad you're healing up with cardboard glued to your chest instead of little microscopic critters mistaking you for BBQ ribs.......it looked like it was on your ribs at least.

Looking forward to your 'tool time' idea when it's ready. Does that mean my fishing lessons are completed before I can even get out on the water? THANK YOU FOR ALL THE EFFORT YOU PUT INTO THOSE "LIFE & MARRAIGE LESSONS" since I challenged you on the Valentine's Day thread. (Don't want to close the book prematurely, so if there's more, I won't complain.)

Ace

Ace,

I'm working on something for the fishing thread regarding using the right "tools" for the job at hand. Fishing lessons could go on a long time, if I don't burn out completely while writing the thread. So, my topic of "the right tools" isn't a new thread, but the continuation of the old one...Not a new topic, only a new chapter in the old one...Ich bin ein Fischer... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Mark

kewl

So where's the BBQ this weekend? M2L, Stressedwife, Carnation, Rock, Mark...other picnickers.....is it snowing in your part of the woods?

Maybe we should all jump on "Schoolbus" as she makes her MB exit and have the BBQ on board.

Sad to see you go, SB, but totally understand.

Ace

Ace,

No snow here today...It got warm enough that I got to mow the lawn. I figured I either mowed it this week or I could bail it next weeek...

Looks like it might stay above freezing most of the week around here. It's about time!

BTW, next chapter is up in Fishing thread...

Mark

Hi Mark,

Thanks, I'll go check out the fishing forum. When is the real opening day? Does it vary from state to state? Or is it consistent nationwide for lakes and streams?

Guess I'd better pay better attention to my lessons,huh?

I thought of something. If we want more posting participation, it might be better to take my name out of the title. I saw a note that suggested that when posters names are in the title, even if there's a disclaimer saying that 'everyone is welcome' (like this thread says), it creates a somewhat exclusive feel and an aversion to posting could be the inadvertant result. Just a thought.

It's the 14th of April....can you believe it's been 2 months since I challenged you to talk me into wanting to go fishing with my H???? And one month prior to that I registered and started posting on MB...... and today I created my 500th post which lead to my second 2x4 in 3 months. Milestone after milestone......the hits just keep on comin'!!!!

Ace

M2L,


The rocks are coming at me quickly....one got me last night, in fact.

I do remember that Greek captain sinking his boat....wasn't he proven to be intoxicated at the time? The next time I get drunk will be my first so that can't be me....unless my MB addiction produces a fuzzy-headed sensation similar to intoxication. Could be.........hmmmmm? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Ace

no bbq here this weekend... Noreaster hit the upper east coast... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> blah!!! where is spring? if april showers bring may flowers, what does april snow bring? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Shrinkage <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

I shrunk once.....took more than April showers to do. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Didn't last, though....expanded when the August sun brought picnics and BBQs..... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

HEY.....Maybe2Late.....you've been gone a month.....did you fly somewhere exotic? I kept out of control towers like you asked me to! The weather is finally getting nice so maybe we can resume our picnic ambitions.

On April 16, Stressed Wife lamented:


M2L popped off:



Then I said:


I got addicted to posting again, but I was off for a week and I've cut way back now. Saw by your history that you've ben off a month until recently.

Everything OK?

Ace