Helping a friend that had an affair - 01/19/09 08:42 PM
I have a friend that I have known for a year and a half. We work together and have become close friends. In the past 4 or 5 months I found out that the friend had had a 3 month EA and 3 month PA with another co-worker about 2 years ago. D-Day was 2 yrs ago after coworker and my friend got in a fight and the A was revealed/confessed to the BS in an emotional/drunken confession. BS talked it out with a few family members and decided to stay with my friend and give the Marriage ONE more chance.
The agreement was my friend was to not even talk to or look at the coworker. I was surprised that they did not go to MC and that BS didn't ask my friend to find another job. To me that was crazy. They work less than 50 ft apart, but are on separate projects and have no need for work interaction. I knew they communicated some, but generally avoided each other.
Here's the problem: Around the same time I found all this out, I was made aware of some communication between the coworker and the friend where the coworker was acting jealous and controlling of the friend. To me it seemed like an out of line reaction for a 2 year old A... So I asked the friend and sure enough there had been post D-Day contact.
From what I was told, communication went deep underground using hidden online accounts. It was mostly on again off again emails and chatting, but on several occasions became physical to include kissing and making out. They never went to the point of lying and going places again. One of those kissing occasions was as recent as 4 to 5 months ago! This was what concerned me the most, because as far as BS knows, there has been virtually NC, and here they are almost 2 years after the A and they are making out!
A few facts: Friend and BS are High School Sweethearts and have been married for about 4 years and are in their late 20's. Coworker is also married and in late 30's. I know the BS (not well) and I know one family member (fairly well) that knows of the A. Neither BS nor Family member know of the Post DD contact or kissing or that I know of the original A at all. So this is what I have to work with.
Over the last few months, I have tried to help my friend by being supportive and available to talk. I suggested that whenever the urge to talk to the coworker arises, to call or email me instead. I have tried to show my friend how much it's hurting the BS by trying to put myself in the BS's shoes and show what it's like from their perspective. I have stressed NC above all as the most important thing. I even got the friend to write a NC letter. I tried to get my friend to go to MC or at least IC, but they are not interested because of things between the friend and BS are "fine"
The one thing my friend was never really clear about was the reason for the A. When I ask about the BS, they are described as perfect and that that was nothing lacking in the marriage, that it was not the BS's fault. My friend says BS is perfect and all the fault lies with my friend. The only reason the friend can come up with is that there had never been anyone else, they never dated other people and were never "with" anyone else. So when to coworker came along and was interested, it was flattering and addicting. It was like they were in their own little world when not around their spouses. There is a lot of regret that my friend and the BS lost that one special thing that they shared prior to the PA, that they had never been with other people. My friend has even said they wish the BS would have an A to make it even.
After the NC letter, things seemed to be going well until a month ago when I found out they had talked a few times. Part of that was because my friend felt bad for ignoring the coworker and that it was worse than you would treat a stranger even. I had a talk with my friend and really tried to stress how any contact would be viewed by the BS and I explained that while the friend views the 3 month PA as one thing and the last 2 years of contact and several times kissing as separate things, the BS will not. The BS will see it as one long A that never ended, but started a little over a year after being married and continued in secret for the entire remainder of the marriage. I repeated back to my friend all the things that were being risked by continuing contact and it appeared we were back on track.
Things were good through the holidays but recently I was made aware of an communication between them initiated by my friend. According to my friend it was just to see how coworker was doing. I believe it was innocent as in not trying to start back with anything romantic, but it's breaking NC. I should point out that since the kissing 4 to 5 months ago, there has been nothing romantic going on and there is a lot of guilt/regret with the kissing even. I guess my concern is that any contact could lead to them getting drawn back into the A.
I am motivated to help because I am a friend, christian and I know what it's like to be hurt by someone you love. I don't know what else I can do. I feel like on one hand the BS should be told about things that have happened, but the friend says BS has indicated that in very clear terms forgiveness was a one time deal and that Divorce will be the result if it happens again. I don't want to be the secret relationship police forever either. I have indicated that my friendship with my friend is at risk also with continued contact. It's a hard thing to be supportive of the person, yet despising what the person has done. What are my options here?
The agreement was my friend was to not even talk to or look at the coworker. I was surprised that they did not go to MC and that BS didn't ask my friend to find another job. To me that was crazy. They work less than 50 ft apart, but are on separate projects and have no need for work interaction. I knew they communicated some, but generally avoided each other.
Here's the problem: Around the same time I found all this out, I was made aware of some communication between the coworker and the friend where the coworker was acting jealous and controlling of the friend. To me it seemed like an out of line reaction for a 2 year old A... So I asked the friend and sure enough there had been post D-Day contact.
From what I was told, communication went deep underground using hidden online accounts. It was mostly on again off again emails and chatting, but on several occasions became physical to include kissing and making out. They never went to the point of lying and going places again. One of those kissing occasions was as recent as 4 to 5 months ago! This was what concerned me the most, because as far as BS knows, there has been virtually NC, and here they are almost 2 years after the A and they are making out!
A few facts: Friend and BS are High School Sweethearts and have been married for about 4 years and are in their late 20's. Coworker is also married and in late 30's. I know the BS (not well) and I know one family member (fairly well) that knows of the A. Neither BS nor Family member know of the Post DD contact or kissing or that I know of the original A at all. So this is what I have to work with.
Over the last few months, I have tried to help my friend by being supportive and available to talk. I suggested that whenever the urge to talk to the coworker arises, to call or email me instead. I have tried to show my friend how much it's hurting the BS by trying to put myself in the BS's shoes and show what it's like from their perspective. I have stressed NC above all as the most important thing. I even got the friend to write a NC letter. I tried to get my friend to go to MC or at least IC, but they are not interested because of things between the friend and BS are "fine"
The one thing my friend was never really clear about was the reason for the A. When I ask about the BS, they are described as perfect and that that was nothing lacking in the marriage, that it was not the BS's fault. My friend says BS is perfect and all the fault lies with my friend. The only reason the friend can come up with is that there had never been anyone else, they never dated other people and were never "with" anyone else. So when to coworker came along and was interested, it was flattering and addicting. It was like they were in their own little world when not around their spouses. There is a lot of regret that my friend and the BS lost that one special thing that they shared prior to the PA, that they had never been with other people. My friend has even said they wish the BS would have an A to make it even.
After the NC letter, things seemed to be going well until a month ago when I found out they had talked a few times. Part of that was because my friend felt bad for ignoring the coworker and that it was worse than you would treat a stranger even. I had a talk with my friend and really tried to stress how any contact would be viewed by the BS and I explained that while the friend views the 3 month PA as one thing and the last 2 years of contact and several times kissing as separate things, the BS will not. The BS will see it as one long A that never ended, but started a little over a year after being married and continued in secret for the entire remainder of the marriage. I repeated back to my friend all the things that were being risked by continuing contact and it appeared we were back on track.
Things were good through the holidays but recently I was made aware of an communication between them initiated by my friend. According to my friend it was just to see how coworker was doing. I believe it was innocent as in not trying to start back with anything romantic, but it's breaking NC. I should point out that since the kissing 4 to 5 months ago, there has been nothing romantic going on and there is a lot of guilt/regret with the kissing even. I guess my concern is that any contact could lead to them getting drawn back into the A.
I am motivated to help because I am a friend, christian and I know what it's like to be hurt by someone you love. I don't know what else I can do. I feel like on one hand the BS should be told about things that have happened, but the friend says BS has indicated that in very clear terms forgiveness was a one time deal and that Divorce will be the result if it happens again. I don't want to be the secret relationship police forever either. I have indicated that my friendship with my friend is at risk also with continued contact. It's a hard thing to be supportive of the person, yet despising what the person has done. What are my options here?