Losing Hope - Help! - 11/28/15 11:28 PM
Ok, forgive me, but this took take a while to read :-)
I need to DO something and quickly...it seems i've tried for the past 3 years everything i know but it's not working..so i must be doing the wrong things and getting the same results.
Brief history is this...
Married 20 years.
Together 22.
1 child 8 years old.
Currently, my wife is very angry, doesnt see any future for us and is 'treading water' until we can move house to a better area and she can get a job again. Then i think she feels she can separate and pursue happiness.
The start for us wasnt great. I was brought up in a religious home and so when we first got together i witheld sleeping together. This has caused friction ever since. She refers back to it continually. She says the brakes were put on sexually, because of my beliefs. I do regret this and have done for 20 years. Then we seemed to have one pressure after another. We went to marriage counselling a few months into our marriage, as she said she felt more like brother and sister. The following years were bad in regard to any lovemaking....it was occasional at best...very rare. Moving on to a few years ago, we had incredible pressures from having to move back to where she grew up with less money to help look after her father who was ill. This whole scenario took its toll in so many ways. Again, one pressure after another. Then we had our son and both sides of our family didn't ever help us, not even once!. For 8 years, I think we only had one night away with our son being looked after by friends.
3 years ago her father died. She was grief stricken, made worse because her mother completely rejected her and the est of her family at the same time...when we had done everything for them for 10 years or so. We think brothers chasing their parents money is at the heart of this...and also a narcississtic mother (my wife's mother) certainly her mother dislays many characteristics of being a narc.
3 years or so ago i discovered she had what i would term a flirtation online with an ex boyfriend (they went out briefly when she was 19-20). He is in another country and married, but they exchanged flirting online which i discovered after a few months....i was devastated. I am a pleaser and a helper and i was very very hurt by this. I confronted her and demanded it stopped. She was acting like a lovesick 16 year old, but one night after communicating with each other she said he over stepped the mark by flirting too much and she then said sorry to me and said she was flatterred but saw it was wrong. I asked her to write to him to say it should stop, that it was wrong. I thought there was a bit of progress. Then i found out she was still in contact but said that flirting was off limits....to an extent o think this is true. I was vigilant and many confrontations followed. She refuses to have no contact but says it is no longer flirtatious. I have seen evidence it is no longer flirtatious. An occasional message...but i think this man does value his own marriage.
So present day, we are at loggerheads. She says she has never been happy. Didnt want to get married. I never meet her needs. She wants fun not the hard slog we have gone through...and the sex has been non existent for a number of years. When we went on holiday and our son was small, we did sleep together and it was wonderful...and for a few months afterwards still good, and at thentime ahe said she didnt know what the problem was and was happy, but she has since re-written history.....i understand...i get it....she's not happy....
So lots of factors involved. I read much advice the past 3 years. Trying to put it into practice is hard. I had a mini stroke as well 2 years ago as well, which was another pressure. I am 99% recovered, but sometimes i find it hard to think clearly.
So, i need ongoing advice and coaching. I dont have much money, otherwise i'd really like to get marriage coaching (not trditional marriage counselling). I am afraid. Afraid of losing her, but i also feel so emasculated at the moment. She cab be very nasty and hwr words can cut me in two. Constant criticism, shouting, belittling and name calling. Im no weak man, but my heart breaks that we are at this point. And my 8 year old boy is so precious that this is hard to cope with when he sees most of what is going on.
Any advice on getting coaching. Over the phone is fine as im based in the UK. I feel like ive read as much as i can, i need to take action now.
Any advice is very very welcome :-)
I need to DO something and quickly...it seems i've tried for the past 3 years everything i know but it's not working..so i must be doing the wrong things and getting the same results.
Brief history is this...
Married 20 years.
Together 22.
1 child 8 years old.
Currently, my wife is very angry, doesnt see any future for us and is 'treading water' until we can move house to a better area and she can get a job again. Then i think she feels she can separate and pursue happiness.
The start for us wasnt great. I was brought up in a religious home and so when we first got together i witheld sleeping together. This has caused friction ever since. She refers back to it continually. She says the brakes were put on sexually, because of my beliefs. I do regret this and have done for 20 years. Then we seemed to have one pressure after another. We went to marriage counselling a few months into our marriage, as she said she felt more like brother and sister. The following years were bad in regard to any lovemaking....it was occasional at best...very rare. Moving on to a few years ago, we had incredible pressures from having to move back to where she grew up with less money to help look after her father who was ill. This whole scenario took its toll in so many ways. Again, one pressure after another. Then we had our son and both sides of our family didn't ever help us, not even once!. For 8 years, I think we only had one night away with our son being looked after by friends.
3 years ago her father died. She was grief stricken, made worse because her mother completely rejected her and the est of her family at the same time...when we had done everything for them for 10 years or so. We think brothers chasing their parents money is at the heart of this...and also a narcississtic mother (my wife's mother) certainly her mother dislays many characteristics of being a narc.
3 years or so ago i discovered she had what i would term a flirtation online with an ex boyfriend (they went out briefly when she was 19-20). He is in another country and married, but they exchanged flirting online which i discovered after a few months....i was devastated. I am a pleaser and a helper and i was very very hurt by this. I confronted her and demanded it stopped. She was acting like a lovesick 16 year old, but one night after communicating with each other she said he over stepped the mark by flirting too much and she then said sorry to me and said she was flatterred but saw it was wrong. I asked her to write to him to say it should stop, that it was wrong. I thought there was a bit of progress. Then i found out she was still in contact but said that flirting was off limits....to an extent o think this is true. I was vigilant and many confrontations followed. She refuses to have no contact but says it is no longer flirtatious. I have seen evidence it is no longer flirtatious. An occasional message...but i think this man does value his own marriage.
So present day, we are at loggerheads. She says she has never been happy. Didnt want to get married. I never meet her needs. She wants fun not the hard slog we have gone through...and the sex has been non existent for a number of years. When we went on holiday and our son was small, we did sleep together and it was wonderful...and for a few months afterwards still good, and at thentime ahe said she didnt know what the problem was and was happy, but she has since re-written history.....i understand...i get it....she's not happy....
So lots of factors involved. I read much advice the past 3 years. Trying to put it into practice is hard. I had a mini stroke as well 2 years ago as well, which was another pressure. I am 99% recovered, but sometimes i find it hard to think clearly.
So, i need ongoing advice and coaching. I dont have much money, otherwise i'd really like to get marriage coaching (not trditional marriage counselling). I am afraid. Afraid of losing her, but i also feel so emasculated at the moment. She cab be very nasty and hwr words can cut me in two. Constant criticism, shouting, belittling and name calling. Im no weak man, but my heart breaks that we are at this point. And my 8 year old boy is so precious that this is hard to cope with when he sees most of what is going on.
Any advice on getting coaching. Over the phone is fine as im based in the UK. I feel like ive read as much as i can, i need to take action now.
Any advice is very very welcome :-)