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#1279830 02/24/05 12:00 PM
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Thanks ladies I needed that...but unfortunately I have blown it for today. You see he is part owner of a company, and I have worked for him part time for the last few years. I initially stopped going in by $$$ is getting very tight right now so I have been coming back. Is it OK for me to work and not speak to him about anything but the job? We have MC this aft and I am not sure if he is coming. He never responded to my email about reading that book together.

I keep repeating "Let it go, let it go" to myself.
I will not bring it up to him, but I am at a lost as to what to talk about in MC, especially if he is resigned not to work on the M. My Mom so depserately wants me to file for D and move on. She can not bear to see him take, take , take and not give.

He got too busy to take the DD's Tues night as he said he would, but plans on taking them tonight. I unfortunately was in the emotional hell hole yesterday and took it out on DD12. I need to get a grip

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Homer... first of all I want to say "thank you" for all your thoughts on my situation. I've been BIG-time remiss in not expressing to you how much I appreciate everything... what you've said has been VERY helpful. Thanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

I also want to tell you what I sense/get/feel... from what you write about what you are going through. And it has nothing to do with giving you any kind of advice... (although what all these other so-much-wiser-than-me folks are saying to you makes sense to me).

In the midst of all you say, the biggest impression I get...over and over... is that you are VERY strong, VERY intelligent, and VERY dedicated... and frustrated all-the-more because of those things.

I guess I'm just trying to say that I can feel your frustration...and it hurts!

#1279832 02/24/05 03:59 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> My Mom so depserately wants me to file for D and move on. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No offense to your mom, but . . . that just doesn't normally happen. Whether you and your H are heading for recovery, or D, you both have much processing to do ~ both of each other's stuff, and your own stuff.

I know she just wants to see you OUT of pain, but it will take time for that to happen. Trust me. A couple of our friends here had infidelity strike in their M's, after H and I got back together. One is now D'd, and the other is in the process. And neither of them are "moving on" anytime soon.

Your H needs some space. That is why he moved out. I know you want him to give to you, but he's just not ready! You cannot force people to do things they are not ready to do. And you know what, Homer? You don't have to give to him at all right now. Just because you love someone, you don't need to expend your personal energy and time and focus on him ~ he just doesn't warrant it right now.

First thing I recommend you do is ~ make a pact to play games with your kids each night that you have them, and make a rule that you will continue to play until someone actually falls off their chair laughing. My kids and I created this, and some nights when we were really down, it took 4 games before we could get goofy enough for someone to fall off their chair laughing.

You, and your kids, need to realize there is still laughter to be had, good times, LIFE. Your life is not over. In the grand scheme of things, honestly, this is just a blip on the radar. No decisions have been made, you both are just in a place that you need to be in for a while.

The growth you can acheive right now, can begin right now, could catapult you (and if you reconcile, your M) into areas you have never dreamed of. You will know yourself so much better when you are through this.

Take this time away from him to do some stuff for you. When you want to talk to him, read a relationship/self-help book. When you want to write him a letter, play a game with your kids.

And just like dieting, just because you messed up once in the day, DOES NOT mean you have messed up the whole day. Try not to let your mind think in all these absolutes, black and white. There is a WHOLE lotta gray out there, and that is where you are. Just be there. Try not to fight where you are.

Find some quietness in your brain, and just look around. Take honest stock of where you are at. Are you in life-threatening danger? Are your kids? When I used to feel despondent about my M, I would realize that the worst-case scenario in my life is not the loss of my M ~ it would be the loss of one of my kids. And both my kids are healthy, and at that time, they had me, and I was level-headed and let them know I would never leave them and we were staying in the house, and that everything was going to be OK. Because everything will be OK.

You are just in a rough patch, a blip on the radar. You are just fine, Homer. I know because you are in a M with this man, you are taking his actions very personally. I did for a time, as well. But ultimately, this is a crisis that your WH has gotten himself into ~ and to some extent, he is going to have to get himself out of.

By you yourself moving forward, putting your best foot forward, by taking care of you and the kids, you can lead him by example. Because that is all you can do to help him. Show him that change can happen, that happiness can be had again ~ and that HE is not solely responsible for any of that happening ~ you are.

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Right back at yah big guy.

Can't believe I am doing this still tho. Not sure if I call it strength or intelligence maybe just idiocy.

Working side by side with WH right now...a couple of things don't go just right and guess what...he blames it on me!!!!! Not directly but comments like..."Well that was a stupid idea" when he makes a mistake doing something I suggested.
I am trying to maintain my cool. Kind of edgey today though because my Dad is having a Cardiac cath this very moment. And I have MC/IC in 1 hour...man if it weren't for these size 5 jeans I am in....I would wish not to be so damn anxious all the time.

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How you doin', Homer? Just wanted you to know I was thinking of you. I'm going on a Scout camping trip for the night, but I'll try and check in with you before the weekend is over.

Keep posting!

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#1279835 02/28/05 11:19 AM
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Had a rough weekend. My Dad had open heart surgery, kind of suddenly. He is doing OK but has a rocky road ahead of him. I found myself wanting my WH there for support....he didn't even call the evening of the surgery to find out if my Dad even made it. He called at noon the next day, said he had heard from his sister that everything went fine. I asked him if he could stop by because I needed him...and he said no.
Then he came over the next day to work on taxes,
stayed for dinner even though I didn't invite him to and read the paper after. Didn't help with the dishes or homework. He hardly says two words to me or the DD's and looks miserable.

Tell me the truth can the WH's really be that heartless as a result of the FOG or midlife crisis or is this person just inately unable to have empathy for anyone....can a man just write off his children to persue some fantasy about being free and single. Friends are telling me to run like hell because this man is really screwed up. My IC says I am holding on to the "potential" of this relationship but reality is there is none as long as WH stays WH.

I want to set some boundaries so he understand he can not continue living in lala land while I take care of the responsibilies of our family. Not sure I can do this with out the long arm of the law.

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