Funny True, same thing here. My H plans on going to the world seris...hopefully without me. I LOATHE baseball. He's excited because they are here in CA and he is going to see them next week.

Because of the job change and pay cut, we decided to cancel Thanksgiving in Chicago which totally works for me! I don't enjoy going because I don't like my MIL. So I'll let you know when we do decide to come.

Blessings!
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Go Cards!

OK, so the stupid White Sox win has created an issue. Last night my H tells me "I want to see the White Sox in the World Seris. So if that means canceling our trip to Stanford UCLA game, then I'd rather do that." Well, I rather not! So he could tell I was very put off. I made a comment I probably shouldn't have, but I did. I said "Oh goodie! I get to go to go with you to the stupid world seris and she got to go to the Super Bowl. Not a bad consulation prize except that I hate baseball!" So that kind of put us both in silent mode while I thought through things. He's about to change jobs and take a pay cut. Should he just have the liberty to fly wherever he wants for a dumb baseball game? Don't you have to make some sacrafices when you want to take a new job and a pay cut that comes with it?

Then I started thinking we all suffer if we cancel our family trip to Stanford (the kids were coming to spend time with their cousins), so he can go to a baseball game. So then I thought maybe we'd all go to Chicago (visit the in-laws), but that is a pricey trip and it would need to be short because my H is wrapping up things at his job (he will probably quit sometime this week).

But then on the flip side I started thinking if the tables were turned and this was UCLA in a National Championship game, I'd give my left arm to go. Stanford vs UCLA is not that big of a game. It would be fun for everyone, but it isn't a "I'd die to go game." So then I started thinking, I'd sacrafice so he could go see his beloved White Sox. But then I started thinking about Super Bowl. I let him go (sacraficed while home with a newborn and 3 year old) while he took his girlfriend to the game. So honestly, I don't feel great about letting him go there without me because of what happened last time. But I don't really want to go. So I don't know what to do. Should I cancel our plans and let him go? Or should he sacrafice and not go? We can afford it now, but we also need to be careful with money because of his job change. But this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Thoughts?

[color:"green"] Well, 2, as a White Sox fan...I would say let him go. This IS a once in a lifetime opportunity. My H has been a Sox fan almost his whole life...and this is a dream come true for him. I think the fans are actually happier than the team. If you are not from Chicago...you just cannot understand what this means. And if you are a true Sox fan...it means even more. I know that you think it is a stupid baseball game/team, but I honestly think that Chicagoans(especially Southsiders) have wrapped more up into this win than just baseball.

Plus, just as you HATE baseball....I absolutely LOATHE football. So, I am sorta biased against the question to begin with. I cannot imagine saying that an ordinary football game...and a COLLEGE football at that...is as important as seeing a team that has done something no one thought them capable of.

My H and I cannot afford the tickets...it would be at least $300 for us to go just to the game...but I have told him that I am willing to give up whatever it takes to let him go...even if it is without me. I know how difficult it is to "throw away" money on things you do not feel are important, as we have been on the poor side of life almost the whole time we have been married, but sometimes we have to anyway.

So, the question you need to ask yourself is...are you making an issue out of this b/c you are trying to punish him in some way for the superbowl thing...or is there a real reason. Why can't you and the kids go to the Stanford thing so they can see their cousins, and let him go to the game? Why is it one or the other??

Remember I wrote awhile back about my H getting to go to the world series without me...and I came to the conclusion that this is something that he has wanted since he was little and I would not want him to ever resent me for not letting him go. It has raised some jealousy issues in me...he seems to get everything he has ever wanted, and I am always left out or maybe I just never seem to get the things I want in life. Now, I could take that jealousy and punish him for the A, and for getting to have all his fantasies fullfilled...and I might feel better for awhile, and I would appreciate him for giving it up for me, but in the end, I would know that I kept him from something he loved for selfish reasons. Why would I want to act selfishly when HIS selfishness has hurt me enough?

Plus, I believe that in my original post on the subject you said something like he was planning to go to the world seires...and I do not remember you having a problem with it then...so why now???

Anyway, just some things to think about. I am EXTATIC that the White Sox pulled it out. I have not been a fan my whole life, but I got such joy last night watching my H jump up and down like a little boy when they won. I got a lot of joy at watching Chicago come together a little bit to root for a team that really shows those bigger, richer, more popular teams that playing the game the right way and believing in your team(and acting AS A TEAM) can get where you need to be. Sounds like everybody can learn from that type of ethic.

Sorry so long...but you had to know that the opinionated Chicagoan would have SOMETHING to say!! Ha! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Hope everything works out. If you DO decide to let him go...tickets go on sale tomorrow at noon, and they sold out in 48 minutes to this last series...so they will probably go even faster. See, he might not even get the chance...so this may all be for naught.

Again, hope it all works out!

True <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> [/color]

UCLA in a National Championship? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Oh please stop...my side is hurting!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

SHUT UP ROCKED! Not this year because we are getting screwed on the BSC. BUT we ARE undefeated so eat my shorts! I'll have the last laugh...next year!

Anyway my H told me today that he is not going. He said that he realizes because of this job change and money cut that he needs to be more practical now. I agree.

But the reason I care True NOW is because 1) we'd have to cancel our trip to Stanford and 2) can we really afford to be so flippant with money now? My H will get his tickets from a ticket broker friend, so he won't need to know by tomorrow. That's how he got his Superbowl tickets. They were left over and less than a week before Superbowl, he got a free ticket and went.

I don't think I would have cared if my H would have said "I'm going". But once he said we'd have to cancel our trip...one or the other, that is when I got upset.

I told him we could drive to Stanford and afford for him to do the White Sox, but he is adamant now that he doesn't want to go. That it isn't fair to us to cancel our trip, that he doesn't have the leisure now of going anywhere he wants whenever he wants both because of his job change and his past behavior. He said "it isn't worth it", but I feel like he'll resent me later for missing it. He misses NOTHING he wants to do.

So now what do I do? Insist he go? Since I hate baseball and one of the reasons is (like all the other stupid sports but football) they drag out everything. So what is the big deal if you go to one stupid game, if it isn't THE game like how superbowl is. But that is just my opinion. So I'm trying to seperate them.

I don't want to end up resentful at him when Christmas rolls around, and I get nothing under the tree because we have to be frugal and he went off and spent a fortune to go to ONE game of the world series. There is so much to consider. I'm not sure what to do.

Rocked? Do you have an opinion beside poking fun at MY UNDEFEATED UCLA TEAM? I'd love to hear it. But if not SHUT UP!

GOOOOOO BRUINS!
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I know that you do not see this, but his telling you that he will not go is a REALLY big gesture if he is as big of fan as my H. It is a big deal...ONE game of the World Series could make all the difference. They have to draw things out in other sports, b/c 1. It is much more fair to have a series of games to determine the better team, b/c anyone can have an off day...but at least with 7 games you can see some real talent and sportsmanship and 2. people would probably be bored out of their minds if football lasted for much longer than one game....Ha ha ha...j/k

I honestly believe that you are coming up with reasons to be angry about him going from the things that you have said. If I am wrong, well, that would not be the first time...but I bet if you dig really deep into your mind about this...it is all about the A. I can see by your words you are feeling some of the resentment that I have had and still feel for my H when he gets to do what he wants...and I don't. I feel like I sacrifice it all...and he gets aways with having the life that he has always wanted. I get that attitude from my mom, but it sounds very similar to what you are saying.

If you really are worried about the money...tell him that going to the WS is HIS Christmas present early. Let him know that you are willing to let him go, but from now until Christmas he will need to be a pennypincher and make sure that it is a special day. Plus, Christmas shouldn't be what we get but the sentiment put into it...right? My H and I have never really been able to afford much for ourselves, so we get our kids what they want and only buy each other small tokens...it is better to watch the kids than get something big for me.

Again, I could be way off base, but if he is going to get the tickets from someone else, then he has a day or two to decide. And so do you.

Again, Good luck.

True <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Thanks True,

Like I said before, I wouldn't care if it wasn't a matter of him going or us cancelling our trip. That is when I thought it was unfair and then all the bad feelings you are talking about came up.

Anyway, he also told me today that he won't quit tomorrow if I don't feel great about everything...which I do not. But I still think he should quit...just like I think he should go to the WS because I don't want him to resent me forever. It is all so tough.

Yes, I understand why football has to be one game only because it is too physical a sport to do a series like baseball. But since baseball is already so boring watching 7 games of it is like ancient Chinese water torture for me <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, World Series vs Superbowl...well 2 knows I love football, so I'd have to pass on the baseball.

However, like True's hubby my hubby is a WS fan too. I wonder if that is the common denominator in WS?? Yikes ,WS stands for both!

2, I would say that would take True's idea. Tell H to go as an early Christmas gift to himself. I think financially you are going to be great. A bit tight at first (and boy do I know what tight is right now). Sometimes we have to take that leap with faith. And as far as a gift for yourself...ah I don't think you want anything more than your family to be together, healthy and happy, right?

I understand True's statement...why do "they" (the men) always get what they want. We have a brand new quad in our garage that would have looked great as tile in our home. I can't hold those resentments. Not worth my happiness, inside.

holiday

You ladies crack me up!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

2, Lesson #1...to go to a football game you buy ONE ticket. To go a World Series game you buy ONE ticket, not all 7. I can hardly believe you'd be bored at a World Series game. I, like True, feel your answer is influenced heavily by the A aftermath.

Boring? Now that would be scrap-booking. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Use the word "undefeated" as much as you can now 'cuz Dec.3 is right around the corner! Oooh! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Do I still have to SHUT UP??

Rocked! If I didn't like you sooooooo much I'd fly my butt over to Florida and give it to you good! First, scrapbooking ROCKS! 2nd Baseball SUCKS! and 3rd UCLA is UNDEFEATED and I'll bet you money we stay so after Dec. 3rd. 'SC is TOTALLY beatable as we have seen from this crappy season and their numerous almost losses (won with 3 seconds left in the last game thank you) and they are going down...maybe before us! It is OUR running back DeShawn that leads the nation in scoring, not their OVER-RATED team!

Anyway, on to the REAL reason I logged in today. My H quit today. It is finally over. He met with his boss (who he quit to the first time after d-day) and he took it well...was very supportive. His boss will tell the Big Dog today and my H will tell his staff tomorrow (of which OW is).

So finally almost a year later, this chapter closes. I am very nervous about the new venture, but very excited to be closing this chapter. Of course there is anxiety about "their" good-bye assuming there is one. I have already let my H know that I intend to go to all the going away parties they have for him...realizing she may attend. After Nov.4th it feels like it will all be done...11 years, numerous promotions, big changes in quality of life, a marriage, 2 kids, an affair, and lots of fun and heartache. It is hard to say good-bye.

Anyway, I realized God was calling me to trust my H again with this HUGE move. My flesh does not want him to do it...with the financing not being set in stone, I wanted to say "NO!" But during prayer time I kept feeling God telling me "time to start trusting him again", so I am. I gave him my heart and he broke it. Now I'm giving him my livelihood. I hope I don't end up destitute.

Anyway, we had a long talk about WS and he decided against it. Logistically he doesn't feel like he can fit it in with all the change going on right now. And he said he realizes that he can't just do whatever he wants like he used to do. He apologized for even bringing it up, realizing that it brought up bad memories for me with Superbowl. He said the timing wasn't right and he would have to pass. It is actually nice to see him exercise such great self-control. Last year, he would have been on the first plane out regardless of cost. We can't have everything we want...especially mistresses. I think he is learning to deny himself in many ways and that is encouraging to me.

Anyway, I may have OW sightings and issues come up with him leaving. I will keep you posted.

Goooo BRUINS!
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Hey 2,

I am glad that you guys talked it over. I am glad for you, but do feel bad for him b/c I know how much he probably wanted to go. I hope you really appreciate this gesture...b/c it is HUGE! It is awesome that he is showing you the side all WS SHOULD show which is.."what I wants does not matter, it is all about you".

As for us, well, tickets sold out in like 18 minutes and thanks to our good 'ol dial-up we were unable to get them. I guess watching it at home will be good, but I will admit that I find baseball so-so at home...you have to be in the park to really enjoy it. My H and I have bonded over watching the games this year, it is almost like one of the first years we were dating. I could have told you who was traded for who, watch position they played, and their RBI/batting average back then. I am not as good this year, but actually enjoy watching this team play most of the time. It would have been special to go see the Sox in a WS...especially this year. Oh well. Such is life.

I will definitely keep you in my prayers about him leaving his job. I remember telling my H that I knew that the OW would try and do something before he left...he said, "oh no...she would not do that, she will respect that I asked her for NC"...well, she did contact him before he left, and I am sure if she had the chance she would have gone farther. You are smart for going to all the going away parties.


Yes, keep us up-to-date and I hope everything turns out better than you ever dreamed!!!!

True

PS. Oh and Holiday, I was thinking about the common denominator thing. To be honest, I would think that a Sox fan would be the faithful sort of spouse. Now, Cubs fans, they go with whoever is winning and a lot of times only like the Cubs for the namesake...THEY could be cheaters <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />...Sox fans on the other hand(and I mean REAL fans, not those who just hop on board) are faithful to a team who, as my H puts it, do not view themselves as lovable, and who have been pretty *rappy most of these years. You have to be pretty loyal to get your heart broken every year by a team who never wins:D I told my H it is almost sad that he has been so faithful and loyal to this team all these years and he could not show that same faithfulness and loyalty to me. Ok, ok...I only told him that it is sad that 3 faithful sox fans had become WS...I added that last part for you guys....boy, I can turn almost anything back to the affair if I try hard enough... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Feeling a lot of peace about the decisions he has made...both his job and not going to the game. I do see this as a huge gesture and I am grateful.

True, I bet I could "find" tickets for you, but you would have to be willing to shell out some money. If you might be interested (early Christmas present for the hubby), let me know. I'll get you in contact with the broker friend we know. He might be willing to do a "friends of My H" discount.

Good night!
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True...and one Cardinals fan!

I get no respect. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

NOTE OF THE DAY: Championships at UCLA happen with a "round" ball, not an "oblong" one. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Rocked,

I'm confused! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> I know you are a Cards fan...but how did I leave you out? Sorry if I did...not intentional at all. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

2,
Thanks for the offer, but I can't shell out too much. We were going to be stretching things with the regular priced tickets. But THANK YOU very much for the offer! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Here is a rant <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />.......It ticks me off that MLB makes tickets so expensive. I guess all sports do, but the average person, especially the average WS fan, cannot afford those prices(unless maybe you want to go alone). I think it stinks! Also, I read somewhere that there were only 2-4K tickets actually on sale yesterday. The rest were scooped up by brokers...and probably corporations(I don't know that one for sure, but I bet it is so). I was REALLY mad then. I thought, let the people calling in or looking online have first dibs. They are probably the people who REALLY want to go...not just because they get the tickets as a benefit of working for someone. OK...I am done ranting:D

Well, I hope you all have a good day. I just finished my middle daughter's halloween costume. She is going as a jellyfish...it is very cute! She comes up with some of the strangest things sometimes, but I had fun making it. Now, I just have to finish my oldest's costume and my own. Yes, I dress up. One of the reasons I LOVED being a teacher. I got to act like a kid a lot. This year I am going to my middle daughter's kindergarten class...so, I thought I would dress up and read stories to them. Last year I did that for my oldest...and her class loved it. They thought I was so silly and I think my daughter was both happy and embarrassed...so I pulled off two mom tricks in one swoop...ha ha!

TTYL!!!!!

True <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Oh my Rocked...that's harse ! When I lived in CA, UCLA was the way! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

H takes another test today, so if you would all say a little prayer (he can only miss 4 tests and didn's pass the last with a high enough score). He's not a great test taker. He sat with his instructor yesterday to study and she gave him an oral test and he passed, but he has a hard time putting it on paper. Stresses him out big time.

I hurt my neck the other day lifting weights...so my days at the gym are null right now. Raining off and on the past 2 days, so I run in between the sprinkles. I hope this won't bring me down too much.

I hope you all have a wonderful day. 2, you and your family are in my prayers on your new venture. True, glad to see you are feeling more and more positive! Rocked...well, stay a stinker! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

holiday

Rocked, Are the White Sox going to the World Series for the first time since 1954? OK, then! Anything is possible. UCLA has a great legacy in basketball, but we did come close the very first year of the BCS. Remember that? So we can do it again.

Anyway, True, my H works in sports and the sales side as you guys know. Sports is like any other industry, it is all about the money. If they can (and they do) sell out tickets that are priced so high the average fan can't afford to go, they don't care about the average fan. The average fan doesn't make them money...the corporations and high net worth individuals make them money. Should sports organizations be more loyal to the fan who has been with them 30 years instead of the band wagon corporations and rich fans? Probably. But why, when they make more money the other way? With my H in sports sales, it is like any other business. My H has actually gotten in "trouble" for pricing things that sold out too quickly too low. If it sells out too quickly then he should have priced it higher. It is all about the money. As far as the ticket brokers they make the organization tons of money. The broker that is friends with my H agrees to buy some 100 tickets for just about every event there. If it is a slow selling event, the broker takes a hit, but if it is the NBA championship, the broker makes a killing. So it is a risk for the broker to agree to buy tickets for everything. But in the long run, they both make money so that is why brokers get so many of the tickets. They probably had tickets at the first of the year when no body could have forseen the WS win. So in a way, brokers are very loyal "fans".

Anyway, just a little info on your rant. I know it isn't fair, but if life was fair, none of us would be here!

Have a blessed day.
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True, did I misunderstand your quote..."3 faithful sox fans had become WS..."?? I assumed you were meaning You, Holiday, and 2 thus my point was I too am a WS, yet a Cardinal fan.

Sox in the WS - glad for you all! Cards out. Bummer. Is there room on the Sox bandwagon? When and where is the party? Poolside in Vegas? Speedos allowed? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

UCLA...hmmm? I'd have a hard time cheering for a team that wears powder blue. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

LOL, Rocked you are killin me!
Sorry to have lumped WS with WS fans.
Poolside is getting chilly here, so you better hurry. However the jacuzzi is always a perfect 102!
My BIL was going to give up his favorite team last night (he's a Texan) if the Astro's didn't get in.
I really don't pay that much attention to sports unless my son or daughter is on the team, ha!
Well have a great day...
holiday

Holiday, don't blame your pain on my humor. C'mon, we all know you hurt yourself in the gym pumpin' up!

2, Can you get me SuperBowl tickets to see my Jags play whoever ends up being the loser of that game? Lemmeno. I hear your H has connections.

Go Socks!