...What enables the wise sovereign and the good general to strike and conquer, and achieve things beyond the reach of ordinary men, is foreknowledge.

Now this foreknowledge cannot be elicited by spirits; it cannot be obtained inductively from experience, nor by any deductive calculation.

Knowledge of the enemy's dispositions can only be obtained from other men.

Be subtle! Be subtle! and use your spies for every kind of business.

Spies are a most important element in war, because on them depends an army's ability to move.

Restating what brownhair quoted:

Mimi...I just heard Sun Tzu's name pronounced for the first time last night...in a movie...Two Weeks Notice...and I thought of you.

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And what you quoted that brownhair quoted...isn't that the definition of making NO Disrespectful Judgments?

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WOW..this post by PEP quoted again BELOW is masterful..filled with a wealth of information, insight and advice...


Force is the control of the balance of power, in accordance with advantages.

In Plan A ... the BS restores their power to affect change. Plan A gives the BS an advantage with their intimate knowledge of their spouse's ENs.

Warfare is the Way of deception.

Deception meaning .... showing more strength than you might possess at that given time ! Hiding your weaknesses. Plan A ... not begging, crying, pleading ... standing tall and presenting a self ready to battle & fight for the marriage.

Therefore, if able, appear unable,

Plan A ... let your WS provide you with things that save your energy for future need.

if active, appear not active,

When snooping about like a squirrel searching for seeds of the affair, appear calm & serene ... Plan A snooping is done quietly & without announcing >>> "Ah-Ha ... Look what I found !". Be stealth.

if near, appear far,

Plan A ... keep your WS guessing where you are.

if far, appear near.

What seems just out of reach is sometimes more attractive. What seems a sure thing, is taken for granted.

If they have advantage, entice them;

Offer the WS goodies ... as in meet their ENs.

if they are confused, take them,

Plan A is confusing to the WS. They would prefer the BS appear ugly & unattractive in order to justify their cheating. It is confusing for the WS to see an attractive BS.

if they are substantial, prepare for them,

Plan A ... get all your ducks lined up. Legal preparations. Financial preparations. Spiritual preparations. Etc.

if they are strong, avoid them,

Plan A is not plan doormat. They can wipe their feet elsewhere, but not on your back. Accepting abuse is not an attractive trait.

if they are angry, disturb them,

LOL .... this is precicely Orchid's "reverse babble" .... The WS speaks with foggy tongue, disturb them with O's reverse babble.

if they are humble, make them haughty,

If the WS is over-confident, they become sloppy & make errors.

if they are relaxed, toil them,

Keeping an affair going is exhausting to the WS. It's like a juggling act. Throw the WS another ball to keep in the air. The affair will fall when the juggler becomes exhausted by the added effort.

if they are united, separate them.

Do not become the fool that encourages both the WS and the OP to join forces. If you act insane during Plan A, they have a common enemy to fight ~~~> YOU !

Attack where they are not prepared, go out to where they do not expect.

Do the UNexpected in Plan A. Keep the WS guessing & wondering.

This specialized warfare leads to victory, and may not be transmitted beforehand.

Do not give away your plans.... do not show the WS your books. Do not invite the WS to this site. Stealth.

Before doing battle, in the temple one calculates and will win, because many calculations were made

Plan ... you must have a Plan or you will suffer & be defeated.

before doing battle, in the temple one calculates and will not win, because few calculations were made

Don't waste time flailing about .... get organized & recruit helpers.

many calculations, victory, few calculations, no victory, then how much less so when no calculations

Do not proceed by your feelings alone. Develop your plan.

By means of these, I can observe them, beholding victory or defeat!

The BS who refuse to develop & follow a plan, are most likely to fail.

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Reminding you guys that THIS IS A WAR!!

As long as we are at war, how about three from Napoleon I.


“It is an approved maxim in war, never do what the enemy wishes you to do.”


"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."


"Take time to deliberate, but when the time for action has arrived, stop thinking and go in."

MB kung fu

for all you marriage warriors out there !

Bump for all of you strategizing your MB plan - THINK then ACT

Hey...MY GODDESSES..CHECK THIS OUT...especially you, Not2...

Super... Another Great Thread... I've always wanted to get that book but not because of my WS... Because it's on the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy's (MCPON) reading list... LOL...

Pepper what version do you have? (ISBN number?) Or can you recommend one that has an easy to read translation?

The Barnes and Noble translation is GREAT!!

Free download from Gutenberg Press

I don't actually like reading on-screen, but I think it's way cool that so many titles are available on sites like Gutenberg.

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Sun Tzu has lots of gems, probably the key points are in the offensive strategy section:

He advises the best policy is to take the state intact, to ruin it is inferior to this.
For we MB'ers this means trying to save our M's, even Sun Tzu would agree and seems aligned w/ plan A.

If you have to fight, then the priorities are (best to worst):
1) Attack your enemies plans - let the WS know and set your boundaries.
2) Disrupt you enemies alliances - exposure!
3) Next best is to attack their army - a dangerous proposition but sometime head on warfare is necessary.
4) Worst policy is to attack your enemies cities - sounds like a scorched earth plan that no one is happy about. Perhaps this is where plan B comes in and hopefully prevents torching some valuable relationships?

A good and quick read, applicable to many things, thus you can usually find this in the business section of the store.

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No Way

As a Marine I read Art of War for military purposes and have seen business uses for it as well but great connection in tying it into marriage / relationship management.

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