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You're absolutely right, Mr. 2sweet.

If you are planning on getting a D, you don't need any of us. The $ you spent on phone counseling could have been the best money you every spent. Even yet, it's not too late to keep it from being wasted.


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Originally Posted by tsg
no did not talk to him on no radio show spent over 2000.00 talking on the phone thanks for the help

Still can't understand you. You have not spoken to Dr. Harley, then, is that correct?


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Do you even know who Dr. Harley is?


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Maybe he means that 2s did the phone counselling to the tune of $2,000?

Or maybe his bill for talking to the OW was $2,000?

Beats me.


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2sweet and TSG have been counseling with Steve Harley.

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2,000 with Dr. Harley's way better than 2,000 someplace else though.


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2,000 with Dr. Harley's way better than 2,000 someplace else though.
tsg, how much of the advice Steve gave you did you actually put into action? And when?


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hi
look everyone think we got off to a bad start sorry.
i would like to know if anybody in still want to help me a little'
nexty i called 2sweet after i posted told her what i put in and she always welcome to read it .i also told her i bet she would not have because i bet someone would not be able to stand it and tell all .gettin dinner on table she be here in a few cant wait to ask .and yes she always tell the ture. if there anyone in here that believes in me and want to help me please let me know .i know 2sweet lovbe me very much and i do l;ove her very much i am sorry for what happen to us and i will earn her back all i ask is just a little help but if no one wants to help me that ok i will still earn her back. thanks for the help


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We can't help you if you refuse to listen and take our advice, tsg. When you don't like what you hear you become combative. Is this how you are with 2S?



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Look tsg, we can tell you things, which we have been, and we can show you where to find things, which we have but you have to DO them. We can't do the work for you.



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Originally Posted by tsg
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look everyone think we got off to a bad start sorry.
i would like to know if anybody in still want to help me a little'
nexty i called 2sweet after i posted told her what i put in and she always welcome to read it .i also told her i bet she would not have because i bet someone would not be able to stand it and tell all .gettin dinner on table she be here in a few cant wait to ask .and yes she always tell the ture. if there anyone in here that believes in me and want to help me please let me know .i know 2sweet lovbe me very much and i do l;ove her very much i am sorry for what happen to us and i will earn her back all i ask is just a little help but if no one wants to help me that ok i will still earn her back. thanks for the help

Ok. You want help? Here's my advice.

Post your list of extra-ordinary precautions here... Tonight... by 11:30 eastern time (PM)

You want someone to believe in you? Post them. tonight...

Otherwise, I'm out. This billy goat is tired of standing on the bridge listening.


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I do want to help you.

Believing in you won't help you, though.

Talk is cheap, sir. What are you going to DO?


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ep
ncl - sent 1-6 - let wife know if anycontact from ow happens
change cell phone # done 1-6
change house phone # done 1-6
wife joked on puttin rid-x on door, don 1-6
close all other emails, regular email ow blocked from
give wife password to email,bank, phone
have wife put keyloger on laptop
have wife put gps oncell phone
take picture of where i at , keop picture on phone,date and time taken
provide receipts of purchasees, time n date stamp
keep notebook of cash spendin if she asks
spend 15 hours week with wife or more
take a poly to get her trust back

anything else i can do?
thanks for the help


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Originally Posted by tsg
ep
ncl - sent 1-6 - let wife know if anycontact from ow happens
change cell phone # done 1-6
change house phone # done 1-6
wife joked on puttin rid-x on door, don 1-6
close all other emails, regular email ow blocked from
give wife password to email,bank, phone
have wife put keyloger on laptop
have wife put gps oncell phone
take picture of where i at , keop picture on phone,date and time taken
provide receipts of purchasees, time n date stamp
keep notebook of cash spendin if she asks
spend 15 hours week with wife or more
take a poly to get her trust back

anything else i can do?
thanks for the help

Yes. Remember that EP's are for life. These are life changes you need to make...

What kind of things can you add to this? Things like...

No opposite sex friendships... what else can you think of?

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Originally Posted by tsg
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ncl - sent 1-6 - let wife know if anycontact from ow happens
change cell phone # done 1-6
change house phone # done 1-6
wife joked on puttin rid-x on door, don 1-6
close all other emails, regular email ow blocked from
give wife password to email,bank, phone
have wife put keyloger on laptop
have wife put gps oncell phone
take picture of where i at , keop picture on phone,date and time taken
provide receipts of purchasees, time n date stamp
keep notebook of cash spendin if she asks

spend 15 hours week with wife or more

20 hours minimum of undivided attention.

You and her. No kids. Not sitting in front of the TV.

DATE HER

Just like when you dated before marriage.



take a poly to get her trust back

anything else i can do?
thanks for the help

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hi thanks to the one that want to help .you made 2sweet happy ,i told her i stay if anyone would.going to talk to steve in the morning.i love this lady and for some reason she very much in love with me .every day gettin better.and to the ones that though you had to run tell her what i post she knew before she ever looked at hers ,she is also free to look at mine anytime she wants .but i tell her everything .the lawyer i let you ask her you got to have something to tell her .what ever was going to happen there was her choice. never forget i told everyone this is the best lady on gods green earth.....


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let us know how it went with steve.


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tsg -- don't criticize us for helping your wife. She has been posting here for months trying to get help for your marriage.

you've been here a few days, and you think you need to be in charge of what we tell her?? That takes some nerve buddy.

You need to worry about YOUR behavior. Not anyone elses.

You have a good list of precautions. And its great that you are working on them.

2sweet also had a list of requirements for you.
Are you working on these?

Sell both our motorcycles
Poly
Change deed to the house over
Sell both his car and truck if the skank was ever in them
Burn his shop down or repaint it and relocate it to another area on the property.
Teat down his house and build me a new one someplace else on the property.


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tsg -- don't criticize us for helping your wife. She has been posting here for months trying to get help for your marriage.

you've been here a few days, and you think you need to be in charge of what we tell her?? That takes some nerve buddy.

You need to worry about YOUR behavior. Not anyone elses.

You have a good list of precautions. And its great that you are working on them.

2sweet also had a list of requirements for you.
Are you working on these?

Sell both our motorcycles
Poly
Change deed to the house over
Sell both his car and truck if the skank was ever in them
Burn his shop down or repaint it and relocate it to another area on the property.
Teat down his house and build me a new one someplace else on the property.

You know - unrepentant waywards give clues.

Since you like to insult our intelligence, Let me give you some clues I'm looking for that you are sincere:

APOLOGIZE for your prideful arrogant responses.

READ HerPapaBear's thread.

CALL Steve Harley and this time DO what he tells you to do.

MAKE THIS A SAFE Place for 2Sweet to get help.

YOU RAN HER OFF THIS BOARD. You pushed the help away from her that could have helped you recover a happy marriage. I know it won't look like that to an unrepentant wayward and THAT IS THE BIGGEST REASON I see you as playing us RIGHT NOW.

I hope that you don't have ANOTHER FALSE FAKE RECOVERY with this woman you profess to love so much.

You're smarter than you let on. You just have a whole lot more pride about it and that will hurt your chances of saving your marriage.

See - you say you've done all these things. But where is your wife? Where is she to verify?

If she's still dark on this board, chances are obvious that you are still playing her and she knows it.


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the more hours the more i like it
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