I never much liked Tiger Woods and I am a lifelong golfer, love that game. An hour ago Tiger Woods announced an indefinite leave of golf. His reason? To work on his family.



For once, at last Tiger Woods did something I think merits some applause. Let's see if he can stay the course.

Good for him and his family. Let's hope the press/public grant him his requests and leave them alone.

I was impressed. Hopefully he will follow Dr Harley's advice over on the weekend forum:

I have been hearing reports for the last few days that make me think that this couple has been made aware of the MB approach. This latest move, for Woods to stop competing indefinitely, was rumoured a few days ago. It was said that Elin was considering recovery on the basis that Woods never stayed overnight away from her. He would drastically reduce the number of tournaments, playing only those on which Elin and the children could accompany him. He would get rid of his enabling entourage and rarely leave Elin's sight.

Perhaps they put their money to the best possible use and counselled with the good doctor.

This may be tactics by the tiger camp to reestablish his popularity. There are companies that work on public image. Prince Charles employs one.

The Woods family sounds like they need to rid themselves of MIL Woods. Apart from being an enabler, she needs to stop untoward involvement in her son's family.

If she reads scripture, she may pay attention to the passage "...the two become one."

Yay Tiger,

You Talk the talk now walk the walk.

There is nothing more inspiring than to see someone learn form thier mistakes.

Time will tell if he means what he said or if it is a spin. For his sake and his familys I hope its for real.

For the time being, it's very likely "spin".

The reason for perceiving "spin" is because Tiger's legal team won an injunction against the British Media - my guess is we may see the Woods family moving to England here in the near future...

And I can guarantee you it's to protect himself more than it is to protect Elin.

She is Buddist

At this point he is only "talking the talk."

He has yet to "walk the walk."

But the first step has been taken and every success starts with "the first step".

Okay, he's done the right thing (for the moment) and has given up golf - in other woods, his adultery has cost him his job.

But he doesn't make all that money from golf. Reports say that 90% of his millions (close to a billion) comes from the endorsements.

He and his lawyers may well be thinking, "Okay, 1-2 years off of golf to placate the BW and make me look like a good guy again. Then I can go back to golf, pick up my endorsements, and divorce the BW after saying I 'tried' but it just didn't work."

Sorry to be so cynical, but I'm not yet convinced.

I think he's extremely sorry he got caught but I don't think he's sorry at all for all the fun he had.

I don't think he has the slightest idea of what he put his wife and children through, and how he actually endangered their very lives by having unprotected sex with wh*res and party girls and porn stars *before, during and after* both of his wife's pregnancies.

Yeah, giving up golf is a big one for him, but is he really sorry? I don't think so.

I think Tiger cares way, way, way more about his endorsements than he does about his familiy.

And yeah, there were reports that his mum knew what he was up to and helped cover for him. She probably didn't want to be cut out of his circle for objecting (and lose the gravy train), so she enabled just like the rest of his rotten little friends.

By the way, Gillette has "phased him out" as a spokesman. Good.
Mulan

Just read that Elin Woods has purchased a home on an island off from Stockholm--accessable only by boat.

I'm afraid I'm with Mulan on this, at least at this point in time.

Think about it, FBSs and FWSs on this board: Where were YOU so soon after your own d-days?

Even if he's on the right path, he's no where near empathizing with his W for what he's done. That will take months, if not years.

If it happens.

-ol' 2long

TMZ.com is reporting that Accenture says, "Tiger is no longer the right representative" for them.

That makes two, with Gillette being the other one to drop him.
Mulan

It appears that Tiger's wife Elin, will seek a legal separation after the holidays. It looks as if Tiger is done like dinner. Certainly Elin is under no obligation to continue the marriage.

At this point Tiger retains only two of his many sponsors. Remaining are Nike and Electronic Art (EA). All others are gone.

buh bye to Gatorade!

Ok, Melody, how did you get those icons?

Gatorade, I think, was going to drop him anyway, but! Well, you get it. Their dropping him can't happen at a better time.

It is a TEXAS SECRET. We cannot tell yankees!





p.s. I get them by doing google searchs for smilies!

I want to give tiger a chance to redeem himself. I agree he has done so much damage to his marriage that Elin would have to be a saint to forgive him .
If he comes clean with his wife and works real hard he might at least be able to change himself for his childrens sake even if she leaves him.
Time will tell if the reality of what his actions truly grab him by the short ones and he decides to change, or if he feels sorry for himself, (WAAA...Mommy!!) and returns to his behavior.

His integrity doesn't depend on Elin or his marriage either way

It never did.

Tiger has never been a great role model "on the course". F bombs and club throwing are a part of almost every round he plays. In my opinion, if that doesn't change then it is likely he hasn't changed.

Is EA the one that makes the car stealing game where you beat-down the prostitutes? Tiger will now probably be an avatar in the game...

Rofl

I guess Nike built thier line of golf products on Tiger so they are reluctant to drop him.
I heard that they hired Tanya Harding after she took a bat to Nancy Carrigan too. Paid her $25,000.

Nike rep says that this is a "blip" in Tigers carreer.

Nike is despicable. Always have been, always will be.

no rockstar...the game is grand theft auto

but funny...

"Grand Theft Auto" that's it.

Won't let it in the house. My kids ask why, I tell them it is much easier to jump the fence when you are playing close to it. To which I get "Huh"?

(Then I spank them all soundly and send them to bed....)

OLD SCHOOOOOOOL!

Tiger will still have plenty of endorsements. Tag Heuer, Upper Deck and others have already said they will stand by him. The shock and awe will wear off and soon enough there will be some other cheater in the headlines to take some of the heat off of Tiger. Letterman and Jon Gosselin must have been jumping for joy when Tiger made the front pages.


Him asking for forgiveness at this point kind of rubbed me the wrong way. IMO he is far from understanding the damage he has done and is hoping the nightmare just goes away. We will see.

Don't agree with everything said in this article but I do agree Tiger would be better off to stop hiding.

Tiger should be like Kobe

Don't worry - Tiger didn't ask for forgiveness. That was his frantic lawyers and PR team who put out that statement.

Tiger strikes as one of those who will never, ever admit to doing anything wrong. I think he will stonewall this thing to the bitter end, let Elin divorce him, come back and play golf and say nothing, collect his remaining endorsement and spend the money on wh*res just like before. He'll be fine because that's all he wants.

I don't think he'll come out and do an interview with anyone. I can hardly think of anything more pathetic. He might be a great golfer, but nobody is that great an actor to make us think he's sorry when he's most certainly not.

I do feel sorry for his kids, though.
Mulan

Mulan, Known you for a while and thought you were wiser. You're kidding, right?

Your "us" being the general public? I'll bet my annual salary most of "us" have forgotten this issue in 6 mos. It takes too much frontal lobe energy to not just think what the television repetitively programs into our neurons. You got to have serious staying power to walk the narrow line.

(If by "us" you mean those of "us" who have fully-functioning frontal lobes, then no bet ....)

The saddest thing is my prediction.

In 6 mos, Tiger will be the "great golfer" again.

For the rest of her life, Elin will be "the hot chick Tiger cheated on."

Where is the vomit smiley when you need it?

Whoever wrote it...it still bugged me and I'll take it with a grain of salt.


Tiger is still the typical wayward - self absorbed and thoughtless. Upon exposure he went into butt covering mode like so many others. The only difference between him and the average Joe is that he is in the spot light because he is a celebrity athlete. My H may not have as many APs as Tiger, cheated as long, etc. but in my eyes H still scraped the bottom of the barrel and did just as much damage.

Well, lots of the TV talking heads are saying he should come out and do an interview ASAP and let us see that he's rilly, rilly sorry. I don't think he's sorry at all and I don't think he ever will be.

And yeah, in the rest of my post I said I thought he would just stonewall until it was safe to go back to golf. Six months is probably about right.
Mulan

I don't think anyone tells Tiger Woods that he's done anything wrong. Ever.

I've seen this kind of cold-blooded stonewalling before, and it nuked its own family into dust rather than admit it was wrong (or give up the wh*re collection).

I think Tiger will prove to be exactly the same way. He'll dump the wife for daring to standing up to him when no one else does, keep his big-bucks job, and keep the wh*res. He doesn't need or want anything else.

Just watch.
Mulan

OK, Folks you got this all wrong.

First, everyman in a high pressure job needs some recreation right? Often it is suggested that he take up a hobby. What is Tiger going to take up??? GOLF????? Nope.

How about the hobbies his other friends, MJ and Sir Charles,have? That would be...gambling, drinking, and chasin women. A word about MJ. He proved his real character at his induction into the basketball Hall of Fame, where he spent his acceptance speech ripping people. The guy is a jerk and it looks like Tiger is traveling in his footsteps.

If memory serves me correctly Tiger's Dad and Mom were not really together. Their relationship and the reasons for it were never made public, but my guess is Tiger is acting like his friends and perhaps family members.

Elin will be gone is my guess. He has money, he has power, he has adulation from the sports world. AND, he have VEGAS where he can go and whore, gamble, and generally misbehave with "some" impunity.

IF she stays it will not be a good marriage. Now I may be wrong but Tiger has been given many gifts: some from birth and some from odd thinking organizations such as Stanford, who treats him like an alum although he dropped out to make millions. Add to this that he has worked hard at his craft...golf and been rediculously successful and I think you pretty much have the description of an entitled man.

Very competitive people are often difficult people. From what I have read Arnold Palmer, and Jack Niclaus are not the easiest people to get along with, but Tiger and his friends seem to be taking it to a new level.

My thinking is that for Tiger to "do something right", he is going to have to get rid of the "right" people in his life, and revisit how he sees himself and his accomplishments. I think this is a tall order that he will not accomplish.

However, his legal team, his spin doctors, and an entire sport will see that he "appears" to be reabilitated and on the way to being the nice guys that "deserves" $100 million/year in endorsements.

Just my thoughts.

JL

PS: The only person I have actually heard speak out against Tiger was fellow golfer Jasper Parnevik. He said he and his W are sorry they ever introduced Elin to Tiger, given the man he has turned out to be. My appreciation of Jasper has gone up enormously.

"If", tiger is truly in a place of choice, then the temptations to sweep it all under the rug might be to great in 6 months.
Which is probably the choice he will make.

It would be nice to see Tiger have a religiuos experiance and be stripped of all the pomp he probably believes. Then he could have a change of career and be a motivational speaker. ............

Well all we can hope is that he ends up somewhere in between.

Don't hold your breath. Tiger Woods is a Buddhist. I certainly wouldn't expect him to change his religion nor do I think that he needs to.

This is a simple case of a man's failure to discern the difference between right and wrong. I expect that even a Buddhist can handle that (no offence to the Buddhist religion or other Buddhist).

I too am negative on Tiger�s chances to reallocate his priorities. He has not yet hit bottom and I don�t think he ever will. In a few short months he will be back on the golf course and he will resume his old tricks. One thing�s for sure, I won�t be in his corner and I won�t be quiet about the reasons.

I just listened to an interview with Snoop Dogg. He has his head on fairly straight. You see, he presents himself in a totally honest manner. His candor regarding where he has been, where he is at and where he wants to go is refreshing, even if you don�t agree with it. It was like an episode of the Twilight Zone listening to him chastise Tiger Woods.

Tiger is the poster boy for Success breeding Raging Entitlement, which in turn led to Massive Destruction. You will see the same thing here on these boards every day. The only difference is that the people on the boards are not famous. But the dynamic is the same.

It's the same thing that happened to my XWH - Success led to Raging Entitlement, which led to his wife standing up to him, which led to him pushing the nuke button so he could keep the wh*re collection. I'm betting Tiger will do the exact same thing, with the only difference being he might let/insist on Elin filing for the divorce instead of him filing for it (makes him more of a victim, right?) I think XWH would have loved it if I had filed, but I wouldn't, so poor poor XWH had to do it. I don't think Tiger will have that problem.
Mulan

I am not a huge fan of "Tiger Woods". I typically root for the underdog because Tiger's continued success, just gets old after awhile.

What I can appreciate about Tiger's continues success is the determination it takes to get there, and what it takes to stay there.

Tiger Woods has proven is own ability to accomplish WHATEVER he sets his mind to. This is no different, If he means it and for what reasons.

I dunno, I have seen some pretty bad cats [pardon the pun ] turn their lives around and I hope Tiger is one of them. If he wants to stay with his wife, he is going to have to make some dramatic changes because she will hold him accountable. She does not seem to me to be so enamored of his stardom after she kicked his [censored] with a golf club. This nuclear exposure might just be the very thing that motivates him to change his life. That, and this little Norwegian wife who clearly will take no crap.

A person's character is also defined by what they did to RIGHT their wrongs.

who knows?

a la Angelina Whoring and Brad's the Pitts.

I dunno, Melanie - there are reports today that she's been out in public without her wedding ring and that she is preparing to file for divorce in California - a community property state - and that because of Tiger's epic sh*tting on the marriage, a good lawyer may well get the pre-nup thrown out.

If he wants to reconcile, he'll probably have to do it *after* divorce.

But as I said - I don't think he'll do that. I think he was only married because somebody said it was good for his image. Well, all that's ruined now - the public will never take him seriously as a married/family man ever again. So what does he need a wife for?

We need to set up some odds here. Mel and a few others think he might straighten out; Mulan says no way.

Either way, it should be interesting, and I do think it's very relevant to MB for:

The huge example it provides of what exposure can really do.

The way every WS builds walls around his/her cheating that they are just sure are rock-solid -- but those walls always prove to be built of lies and delusional fantasy, and they always come crashing down when the cold light of exposure hits them. Every time. Tiger was paying huge amounts of hush money to the wh*res (before exposure) and huge amounts of money to a PR team who was supposed to control this sort of thing, and the lies *still* rotted right through those walls.

And for the way WS surround themselves with yes-people and suckups who tell them what they want to hear and happily enable their cheating in hopes of getting some crumbs for themselves. Real friends - the ones who would tell the WS that they are going down a very bad road - are always cut out of the WS's circle. And that includes the BS if the BS also refuses to enable the cheating.

Oh, yeah, Tiger has actually done us a big favor here at MB. We'll be able to use him as an example for devastated BS for a long time to come, because they'll be able to see that their WSs are doing the same things Tiger did. It may be on a smaller scale, but it'll be the same stuff nonetheless.
Mulan

And before I forget, let me add to the list above:

The rock-stupid gullibility of the OP who believe everything their MARRIED affair partner tells them, and then are mad/hurt/betrayed because their cheater was cheating on them - either with more OP or *sob* with the BS!

And the inevitable whining of the OP who insist that THEY are the victims in all this.

Tiger has given us a full-blown, to-the-letter, in-living-Technicolor example of the wayward script, and has proven that all the money in the world can't make lies go away.

Wonder who's going to play him in the movie?

Who indeed?

I don�t think he�s going to change a thing except being more careful. The sad fact is that their marriage has never known a single day of fidelity. There are even reports circulating that Tiger is still in contact with his favorite bimbo. Ughh.

There never was a marriage in any real sense so there is nothing to recover. He has no idea what love and marriage actually entail.

While Tiger Woods golf game is arguably the best ever, his ability to love and cherish a family is a skill he does not possess. I think Tiger Woods is all about, Tiger Woods.

Elin deserves much more.

What is making me angry about this whole situation is that all these bimbos are going to make a lot of money on their interviews giving 'their' side of it.

Makes me sick.

Just the idea that these people will profit for having no morals or integrity or thought for Elin or children is stupefying.

To have this stuff all over the news, I really feel for Elin.

It would be so hard to know your WS was NEVER faithful. I don't know that I could bear it if I were her.


Love in Christ,
Miss M

He won't change because there are really no hard consequences for him to.

Agree that he could be the poster child.

Wonder how long it will take for this to get swept under the rug?

After he does whatever dance for the public and sponsors to get him back "in game" it will be interesting to hear what he says in his next slip-up.

Yes Elin deserves better

Oh yeah remember Jessica Hahn? She had her time in the press. On TV shows... people love dirt.

Well, his SWEDISH wife was the one that hit him with the club.

I wonder what his other Scandinavian wives think of him.

CNN and other sources report today that Elin Woods *is* filing for divorce. She's already closed on an island mansion in Sweden.

Tiger reported to be hanging out with his single guy friends.

Like I said - !

However, I still wonder if she was told to either leave the country or be deported due to felony Domestic Violence (with a golf club), as I don't think she is a U.S. citizen.
Mulan

P.S. Tiger also reported to be in contact with ho-bag #1, and never stopped even after the Thanksgiving Night meltdown.
Mulan

More coming out about Tiger...

Doctor who Treated Woods Eyed for Drugs



LINK

The Fall of the House of Tiger Woods is being witnessed on the world stage. Tiger Woods might be the most recognized face in the world.

Your post links an article that could imply that Tiger was using steroids. About the same time that story came out another surfaced claiming the existence of a Tiger Woods� Love Child.

Ugg, from bad to worse all caused by Tiger, he did this to himself.

Elin just took the biggest driver there is out of the bag and is letting him have it.

It's called a divorce lawyer. And the bruises to his wallet will be severe. He's already broken his reputation, and this break is way too big for a cast and can't be properly reset.

Here is an interesting piece on the massive entitlement of big-shot men in general and athletes in particular:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...egas-values/story-e6frg7mf-1225812237009

I just want to know who is raising all these trashy, slutty girls who are making their livings this way.
Mulan

These guys are truly revolting monsters. When encountering them(and many are ****edit**** in all areas) I often say to myself or a buddy that has been offended' Weel, at least we are not married to the guy." I see the same thing with some of the big shot attorney's in town, often little weiniesque guys that have made a lot of $$ by being a-holes. It must be a nightmare dealing with them on a day to day basis, as a spouse.
Tiger Woods is not a thoughtful man. He lacks substance. He believes his own hype. I'm sure a conversation with him would be incredibly dull.
One guy I have always admired who played in the NBA is AC Green. He vowed to remain a virgin until he married and was able to keep his committment despite being ridiculed by fellow players.

Was watching a TV judge show. There was a young guy who was a successful Real-estate agent that bought Frank Sinatras old mansion to make porno films in. He referred to himslf as a "smart and successful man" and sometimes joins in.

The judge was laughing at the whole incident.

Sleaziness is acceptable now and the most that happens is it is snickered at by our media unless they can make a buck exploiting someone who is suppossed to be an Icon.

Its sad that sports stars and world leaders don't take the influence they have on people more seriuosly. To me, half of thier job is to inspire us to persevere in the face of challenges.

They make a mockery of accountability

Update: Reports are, from both gossip sites and places like CNN and MSNBC, that Tiger is spending Christmas on his yacht in the Bahamas with a lot of "single friends".

There is also word that golf is counting the days until their massive cash cow comes back, and will do practically anything to get him playing again.

I don't think Tiger cares about anything but golf and ho-bags, and I'm sure it's a relief to him that he doesn't have to be bothered with his annoying wife and the kids anymore. And I'm dead serious about that.

As I said above, I think he will go back to golf, continue the single lifestyle that he never gave up, and be perfectly happy.

Elin is the one who will be left devastated for a long time to come, as she realizes how very little she ever meant to her husband. No amount of money can ease that pain.
Mulan

And oh, yeah, wait until the kids are old enough to get online. They will know how much Daddy really cared about them and their mother.
Mulan

I believe he is still carrying one one of the affairs. Even now.

Here is the email I sent to MSNBC after the "Morning Joe" show went on and on about how men are just wired for adultery and that's just the way it is:

*****

To men who insist they just can�t be faithful: Okay, great. Then DON�T GET MARRIED. No man has the right to torment his wife and children with a cheater�s lies, neglect and disease. Just chase your girls until you drop and then go home to an empty house. The rest of us will be far, far better off without you.

Excellent email, Mulan. That needs to be instilled into every man and woman considering marriage. If they cannot commit to faithfulness, then DO NOT WALK DOWN THE AISLE. DO NOT.

You know, this is just a guess on my part. But, I am beginning to wonder if Mulan is unaware of the marital fidelity exemption that comes with winning the US Open. Tiger is exempt for at least 10 years.
And, I am beginning to see that Mulan is not showing the proper deferrence to Tiger, as well.
Leave this poor beleagured guy alone, as he has requested, Mulan.

There doesn't even have to be a US Open fidelity exemption. The blanket "public tolerance" exemption is good enough.

I have said it before, an affair should be a CRIMINAL act. If Tiger robbed a convenience store, he would have caused far less pain to the people around him. Yet he would have gone to jail.

Do you think he wore the green jacket when he was banging each mistress? Just curious since I've often wondered if the winner ever wore the jacket besides the day it was presented to them.

Hummm... I can see it now... a future porno flick titled...

BEHIND THE GREEN JACKET

I've heard of this porno thing(never seen any, of course). I'm told that there is a recent flick out called "The Long Driver", with a magnificent cast. Glorai Allred(sp?) is being played by a Prune.

Some blogger actually photoshopped Tiger being given the "Ed Hardy Green Jacket" for being the top golf "playa." It was pretty funny, but I can't find it now.

For all of you who don't know what Ed Hardy is, it is a stupid, trendy line of designer clothing that only 20 something d-bags wear. Just think of Jon Gosselin and some of the stupid clothing he was photographed in like that stupid tiger shirt.

Here's a funny one... Hope's WH delivered gifts for DDs and they included Ed Hardy perfume. We laughted at this.

Good letter Mulan

I remember, the Ed Hardy green jacket was a skit on the Soup on their first December episode. I can't find a clip anywhere, but just imagine Hootie Johnson slipping the green jacket on Tiger Woods only it has multicolored designs on it and says Christian Audigier.