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Looking back now I would ignore her, you can't do anything without a born child. It's not worth the stress, or headache of even worrying about it. The problems with the marriage should be dealt with first, oc second. H forced oc on me pretty much even though I was ok with having contact. I guess that is why my marriage is where it is now. We dealt with oc more than repairing our marriage which it seems I was the only interested in repairing it. As long as husband was able to do what the crap he liked he was happy. He was happy with the status quo. He wanted to come home to a wife that maintained the house the kids, one who didn't care about what he did or does out on the street. So I don't have alot of advice except that if she is pregnant deal with it after oc is born. Change your phone numbers if you have to. She doesn't have the right to harass you guys. It may be easier said than done, and I think as women we wouldn't worry about it as much if we didn't feel like a child by another women is a link to our husbands. What I have now learned is that my h oc mother was not and is not the root of our problem, because all he did was replace that affair with another. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

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Don't have time for a long response, but have send her a certified, return receipt letter stating no more contact, phone calls, etc. etc. period or you will be forced to take legal action against her. Document every call and if you can keep a recording of them.

As far as her being PG. The only thing you can do is expect the best and plan for the worst. Find out what your rights are in your state. Your state's website should have information on CS and other legal issues regarding this. You might think of consulting an attorney and getting advice if indeed you have substantial assets you need to protect.

Don't engage her or return any of her phone calls. She ain't got brains God give a crow bar, so you're wasting your breath trying to reason with her and expecting her listen and stop harassing you. Do it in writing, keep track of phone calls and take legal action - - restraining order etc. She may be violating federal laws regarding the phone calls too, depending on what she's saying. Your phone company or local sheriff's office should be able to help you out with that.

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hi sleepless,

i would be stunned if the ow was entitled to anything other than cs + medical etc. certianly not a share of assets unless CS is delinquent and an judge granted a charge.

if you have assets that are income producing, i think you mentioned oil royalities etc, then yes it probably would be a good idea to consdier a legal seperation and having those assets transfered into your name. that would help to reduce your h's assessed income. you can have CS set up for your kids at the same time. in some places whoever gets their cs order in place first winds up with the most CS. it would be ridiculous for a BS to have to stand in line behind a OW for CS but sadly it happens.

i have to say though, i would seriously doubt she is pregnant. it sounds to me like just another attempot to real him back into the affair.

in terms of her continued contact, a no contact letter is definately in order. if you send it regsitered post and simply state that no contact should be made until such times as her child is born and she is ready to submit to DNA testing, or if she miscarries.

hugs to you. i hope you h is feeling better.

carolyn

I would cover my butt if i were you, before you know if she is pregnant or not jump on it and get it in place NOW... you can always undo it later if you need to.. and with his condition the way it is it may be for the best.

Sleepless, these ladies seem to have it under control. I just wanted to send you my prayers, and my best.

Yup.

It sucks all around, but Dr. Dobson & others say it is the most likely setup to keep the current family intact. After all our OW (STOW's) stunts I believe it. Sounds like the OW in your sitch is a real winner too. Good chance she's lying to get him to engage with her. You need to prepare yourself to get very little information during NC during the "pregnancy" if there is one. We had NO contact with OW from month 2 til after the birth; I had to call the hospital around her due date to even find out if there was a baby. Turns out they rang her room. The void of information is weird. But any contact with her at all seems to start all her conniving antics all over again; some of the things she has done in the past months assure us that there is no way we could have contact with OW, even for the sake of OC.

Good luck, get that legal advice.

MSA

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sleepless why not let the utilities go unpaid that would of course force them to shut them off It is not but a smudge on your husbands credit report. If it even went that far.

You are way too nice to her and you can easily explain away a few utility bills not being paid.
I know that would be the way to go no matter what this way you can be assured that she would be out of there before you try to sell the condo. I am sorry but if you do NOT put everything in your name alone and god forbid something were to happen to your husband SHE would be after his assets if there is indeed a child involved because obviously he cannot make out a Will, not being in his right mind an this paticular time.

too many things to consider and since your husband does not recall the adultery at this time he should be more than agreeable to you safeguarding your family assets.

I wouldn't sign the letter Merry X-mas or any such thing. Stick to the NC period and let her know you're documenting her calls and attempts to contact and you will take legal action. Keep it to the point and simple. Why engage her? That just encourages her more. Don't banter back and forth with her. You're talking to the wall and further encouraging her behavior.

Have you documented or logged her calls and their content? If not, you should be doing so. They are harrasssing, unwanted calls and she could be in violation of Federal laws relating to use of the telephone.

I don't quite get why you're paying her bills? Doesn't make sense to me either if you have power of attorney for your H and you had the utilies turned off through the proper channels (service orders and documented who you talked to at the utility office, etc.) then why in the world would they not disconnect or at least make her put the utilities in her name? Not making sense?

Also, why would the condo manager have anything to do with knowing or not knowing that the eviction notice has been given to her. That's a legal thing between your H (you with power of attorney) and you. Did you or your attorney send it certified, return receipt so you were notified?

Nut,

not wanting to put words into sleepless's mouth but i think the ow is in the condo and having her bills paid becuase FWH in his madness moved the OW into the condo and set everything up in his name to "look after" her.

As for the utilities companies, i should be suprised at how terrible they are at this sort of thing but sadly i am not. I suspect sleepless is correct and OW is impersonaiting her h to have the power etc kept on. i think i am with cordelia on this on and i would just not pay and let nature take its course. one blimp on a credit history is nothing to be too concerned about and if it means getting the harridan out of their lives then it is a small price to pay.

Carolyn

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sleepless, re the no contact letter. here is one i suggested for another poster a while ago. it is based on one drafted by a lawyer in another group i am in.

""dear <insert ho's name here>

You have informed us that you are pregnant. you have also informed us that you beleive XXX to be the father of your child. Until such times a verification of your claims can be obtained via a recognised paternity test and the results of such a test reconginsed by a court of law, we hereby formally request that you refrain from contacting by any means, ourselves or any members of our extended family. We will consider failure to refrain from such contact as harrassment and we will be forced to report the matter to the authorities in addition to exercising what ever civil remedies are available to us.

We trust we have made our position clear.

If you persist in your claim that <husband> is the father of your child, we invite you to contact our attorney <atty name> at <insert details> once your child is born and arrange for the beforementioned paternity tests to be carried out.


Regards,

"

Hope you are feeling better sweety. I havent had a chance to read through your whole post yet (damn work keeps getting in the way) but i will as soon as i get home.

i think your lawyer is on to a good thing here with the forgery angle.

big hugs

Carolyn

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NC for both of you. Change the cell number if you can. Send the letter Carolyn suggested and let it go until the OC is born if there is one.

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sleepless, quick post. will post more later, but send the nc letter to both condo and parents address if it is her registered address. registered post both times.

odds are she is probably not pregnant and it is just another attempt to real him back in, but just in case...

hugs to you sweety. you remind me so much of me at that time.

your gunna be fine!

carolyn

sleepless,

put the phone down. hide the phone in a draw. throw it off a bridge. get rid of the damn thing. Business contacts can be emailed with a new number. business cards can be reissued. KILL THE PHONE!

i know it is hard. beleive me i know, but all you do in phoning her back is feed her need for attention. She is a black hole at the moment, and she is sucking the life out of you. so i say again, KILL THE PHONE!

Your h sounds a lot like mine used to (and even still does sometime). My h had what i call a mini break down. He became an alien. i think we have talked about this before. The spite and bitterness and anger that used to come out of his mouth when he was in his zone. The horrible, thoughtless, selfish things he used to do. then afterwards, when we had some time and distance, he would not remember any of it. The lies he told, the things he did and said. he just would not remember it. i remember that i felt very invalidated in how i felt, my reactions. i really needed him to own his behavior, accept it and apologise to me but he was never able to really. how can you meaningfully apologise for something that you dont remember doing.


it is realyl hard when you are the "responsible" one. the one who holds everything together, sorts everything out. It is easy for others to think that you are ok. After all, you are functioning, getting things done. i know i really resented my h there for a long while becuase that was exactly what i was forced to do. i remember wondering "when is it my turn? when do i get to collapse into the featel position and cry my heart out?".

i remember being so afraid to brouch any controversial affair related subject with h for fear that he would retreat back into his blackness and i would lose him again.

the thing that got me though that was counselling. i really hope you are attending it. it is easy to lose yourself in his pain and his issues and push to the side your issues. i hope you have not fallen into that pattern. Your issues, your pain, count too!

big hugs to you. Get that NC letter in the post and KILL THE PHONE!

Carolyn

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well i AM going to stoop to her lever, just for a second mind you, and really really hope that she does resist and any damage done is done to her! i hope the condo manager has some big burly helpers to ease her passage out the door. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

now with that out of the way, lol...i am really glad about the phone. you shouldnt have to put up with that BS and i am glad one of his collegues is willing to help you guys out. that is really nice. alot of people bury their heads when it comes to infidelity. i dont know whether they are afraid it is catching or what but it is nice that someone was available to help.

i guess i am not suprised he is having difficulty adjusting to the new you but it sounds to me like the new you is a whole lot better (and maybe happier) person in herself than the old one. you are embarking on a whole new adventure in your marraige here. sometimes i am amazed at how much both h and i have changed over the course of the last three years. we are different people now.

i think i was alot like you. H lead and i followed. We continue to work towards a partnership. Sometimes it is hard but we are making good progress. i know you guys can too with or without an OC in the picture.

i dont think your resentment about him suddenly now having an opinion is particularly bad. i think it is very understandable. geez, you have been the one taking care of business, including him. you have been the one looking after your families interests after he risked them all for a quick shag. that is not overbearing. thats normal. with that being said it is good that he is now taking an interest in things again. whether it is the meds or a psychological recovery lets hope it continues. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

lots of love

Carolyn

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I prob would have if I were you tried to confirm pregnancy if I had known about it... I know I am really glad I did not know about it till it was over with.

I think that if you have a few friends to drive by and see if its noticable would be much better than hiring a PI that is just wasted money because you still would not know if it is your husbands child or not.

I hope you have a better new year and hope she is NOT pregnant at all your h's child or not.

Hi sleepless,

i am glad you got away for xmas and were able to leave the situation behind, if only for a little while. Good on you too for not picking up that phone. If it helps think of it this way, it is going to burn her even more that she cant get hold of you. I am sure she is aware that the phone is yours. that is why she is calling. This is about twistign the knife now. She lost and she wants to make you pay for it. i am sure the letter did upset her but then, that is not really your problem is it? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

i would take the fact that you and h are up and down as a sign of progress. If he is starting to assert himself and voice his opinions that has got to be a sign of his mental bounce back hasnt it?

i think i agree with cordilia on the PI thing. i dont think i would hire someone, i think i would ask a friend to do a few drive by's and see if there was any bumps in evidence. Alternatively, could you ask the condo manager? she must have seen her to serve the eviction notice and to remove her from the condo. If she is 5 months it should be reasonably obvious.

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C.

Some of these OW's are amazing. Absolutely amazing. Follow Carolyn's advice to a T. She has been more than helpful for me. You'll get through this. I too have a difficult time putting the OW on ignore, my ideal situation is to cuss her completely out, but that is not right and I know it. I do believe she will afford me the opportunity though. You'll be fine. I'm thinking of you.

How many BW's here have sent a NC letter that the OW respected and obeyed; never to be harrassed by OW again after the NC letter was sent to her?

CLO - Did you not notice the title of this thread? Could you show some respect and stay off like the poster requested?

****************** What exactly is your purpose here? cause i really cant work it out. are you here just to stir ****** and make yourself feel better?

whats the matter, did babydaddy not want to be part of your delusion? to bad, so sad. take a long hard look lovey.

for your sake i hope bear baiting is working for you. it isnt for anyone else. you are unwelcome in every respect. but you already knew that.

I don't think I wrote anything offensive- I'm a wife now- not an OW and I am interested how successful NC letters are when it comes to ceasing contact once and for all.



FamilyComesFirst,

I'm as close to an OW as you are- since you and I both are FOW. Why are you always picking on me?Please don't respond to me anymore, you're no better than me- we did the same thing. We've both moved on. Leave me alone already, pick on your father's xOW and his OC's okay? She's not me so leave me alone!

Carolyn I don't know who you are, but I am a happily married woman and my OC is now a COM through adoption.

I asked how well NC letters work. Nothing more.

Oh here you go again CLO - - stirring the ******. Why would you give two hoots how well NC letters work if you're a happily married woman with no need to use any NC letter.

I can't remember the whole thread here, but deary (CLO), the NC letter has several purposes. One is documentation that you asked formally for the OW to quit harassing MM and families. You see those harassment things are violations of laws. Then the MM and family have grounds if OW doesn't quit harassing to file a complaint against crazy OW, which in turn, leads to OW being arrested and thrown in the hooskow and/or penalized with things like fines = = you know that thing called money that is so precious to OW after MM leaves them high and dry. Also, documentation can then also lead to the issue of a restraining order to keep the fruitcake away from MM and his family. Get it now CLO?!

Carolyn and Inanutshell - STOP, I'm laughing way to hard. STOP.

Now Carolyn you know better. I'm in enough trouble at the OC Board, I thought you were my person of reason. I'm learning bad things from you. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Looks like I'm not alone in my opinion. Please, read the title. She doesnt' want to hear from you. Period, end of story.

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hey sleepless, sounds like you got it all well in hand. i dont blame you for hiring the PI. If freinds are not an option then you gotta do what you gotta do. she sounds like a class A nutter. dont feel bad about buying into her BS. Really all it shows is that you are a kind hearted person who beleive she was hleping someone in distress. you shouldnt feel bad for that. it is a virtue.

i agree with your psychologist friend though, i think her attmepts to reel him back in are becoming more and more desperate. The whole pregnancy thing does smack of last ditch effort. lets hope though that it was her last line of offense and she will now move on to other victims.

as for the books, i think it is normal. i only have to wave a Dr Phil book vaguely in my h's direction and he immediatalty falls asleep or magically finds something else he desperately has to do. even when we were at the lowest point in our marriage he would have gladly submitted to having his toenails pulled out that read a "self help" book.
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hang in there sweety. sounds like you are doing great!

Lots of love

Carolyn <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I thikn this is an honest question on clos part...I can tell you that my XH sent 2 or 3 NC letters...one time he was still seeing her and sent it!

Point being that clo is trying to make is that it doesn't matter in the OW's mind what the letter says. The OW thinks she has a right to the WH and she isn't going to listen to any letter.

I know from experience...they dont stop!!!

just my .02 <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

You know M23B, the NC letter she's referring to I believe is one for the OW to stop C with her, her H and upsetting their family. If done correctly, documented, phone calls logged, etc. (which your XH obviously didn't do) it holds up with the law and she could have charges filed against her for harassment etc. It can also be used to secure a restraining order to keep the fruitcake away from BS and her family. Let's not even consider WH here, maybe he for whatever reason is allowing C. It isn't about WH, it's about peace of mind for BS and her children and possibly extended family depending on how sick the OW is.

CLO was here stirring the ****** as she always has when she posts here.

Unless, people posting here are trying to provide solutions and/or insight (whether liked by all or not - - it's still insight), then they should keep their fingers off of the keyboard.

Just what "insight or solution" was CLO providing. NONE

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i am dying here. What did the PI report say?????? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

All I did was ask her to RESPECT your request not to get responses from OW and look at the nasty reply she gave me. She's here to stir crap up, no doubt about it. She loves to rub things in BW's faces when she gets the chance.

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Sleepless,

Well, I just wanted to congradulate you on your "get out of jail free" card! I know it's not TOTALLY free, as you and FWH are still dealing with the aftermath of his A, but it also sounds like things are moving in the forward direction for that as well. If he ever does remember the xOW and the A, you will need to be there to support him and assure him of your forgivness and love. I know that I have not posted to you before this, but have kept up with your saga. I have been on basically all sides of the coin here, and can understand your fears, anger, frustration from the BW pov. Please continue to post here as many care about you and your H's recovery! Congrats again!

Sleepless, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is excellent news! i am so happy for you.

I hope the doctors are able to shed more light on his amnesia. i am sure they know what they are doing but have they ever considered whether it might result from some kind of dissocitive disorder? like dissocitive amnesia? anyway, as i said i am sure the doctors know what they are doing.

i am really glad though that you two are making such great strides at getting over this. congrats again!

Carolyn

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<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> you go girl!

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JUST go get the restraining orders already and serve them. I think they need to feel some consequences for thier actions. They cant harass your H so they are take it out on you, mental. Wow they feel forgoten about by your h literally i guess and that is just not something they want to accept.
What did you do to deserve the contact and harrassment? Nothing
What should you do to protect yourself against any further actions? Everything you can

sleepless, i think it is time to unleash the hounds on this nutter.

cordelia is right. get the restraining orders, on all of them. her, her mother, their goldfish. have them served and if you have ANY further contact, and i mean passing them in the street is to much, call the police and have the orders enforced.

i am really sorry you are dealing with this. at least you know where the OW gets her crazyness from. her mother is just as bad!

hugs to you

Carolyn

Both Cordelia and Carolyn are correct, but having dealt with a wacko xom myself, it won't necessarily stop the phone calls. Heck, he was told by his CO(commanding officer) to have NO contact and stay away from our house(basically a military restraining order) but that didn't stop all the hang up calls from pay phones or even phones where this guy worked! I say that you need to think about changing phone numbers, and if family asks, and you don't want to tell them EVERYTHING, just say that you've been getting some harrassing phone calls and this was the only way to stop them. It was a bit commical, but when the xom got kicked out of the military and sent home, the calls stopped. I believe that we changed our phone number after that as well. We were only harrassed one more time and that was when my H signed on to our instant message account and xom just happened to be on at the same time and he was still as pittiful as ever! Saddest thing is this was in Oct and xom was kicked out of the military in July! We changed our sign in name and that was the end of that. Unfortunately, you sometimes have to make a few minor changes like that, but since you don't have to worry about the possibility of an oc, you can move on and get your M rebuilt and help your H move past all of this. Was the xow's mom still trying to claim a pregnancy? Heck, at 5-6+ months, she BETTER be showing by now! It sounds like the xow's family are enablers. Maybe they are sick of xow living with them, and were hoping to pawn her off on your H.

Again, I agree with the "Cs" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> and you should get the restraining orders now and find out how much it would cost to change your phone number. And, you're welcome for the support. We've been in recovery for almost 6 years now, and it is doable.

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I was just about to say WHY did you not demand that the OW mother offer up an explanation as to why she raised such a moraless slut? Did not she owe that explaination to you?

LOL omg too funny

Lets see I will answer her for your spouse. Mother of ****** please accept this explanation, I so choose to stop commiting adultery with your moraless lying daughter and return to the loving wife I wronged so badly and hope that she can find it in her heart to forgive me and we can put our marriage contract/commitment back on the top of the list of priorities in life where it belongs. I know you looked forward to pawning off your useless/demented/warped child(OW) on me to take care of for you, irregardless of my legal/moral/religios commitment to my loving wife. so sorry go recruit another wayward/clueless/lack of better judgement man.

LOL How is that?

Sleepless,
I know this is a bit off topic now, but I'm still really interested in what doctors are exploring in terms of your H's memory. Does he have a past history of being abused so that a dissociative disorder could be a very real possibility? Any past head injuries? Have they checked for seizure activity? History of alcohol/drug abuse?

Even though your H. says he would never say certain things about you, it sounds like things a typical WS would say and do. Wandering around in their "fog"........

My concern would be that if there was an affair and memory loss once....what's the likelihood that it could happen again???? I'd sure want to keep searching for causation. Whether it was a conscious decision or not, I sure wouldn't want to have to deal with anything like this again.

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(((((Mr sleepless))))

some people just shouldnt be allowed to have children.

hugs to you sleepless.

C.

From the little I know, Disassociating is a defense mechanism used by severley abused children to partition off horrific memories... Abused children will talk about how they are out of their body during the abuse, watching it from afar, or something similar, this is the way it starts. If the memory becomes too much to remember later, they will put the memory in it's own place.

What happens later is they will experience a trigger, or stressful situation where they will need to disassociate again...the memory is too painful to experience, or they are not able to cope with the stress. Sometimes they develop another persona, (have you seen the movie Sybil?) They develop another personality to enable them to fell or act in a way they are not able to act...they will develop a persona that will be able to hate their mother, or a persona that will enable them to succeed. It used to be called fugueing, and thought to be something like a seizure when a person developed this persona...

During this memory loss, the person is acting and performing like a person would...albeit, their personality may be changed, and they may have no recollection of their "real" life.

It is possible there were problems or arguments in your M that reminded H of his past abuse...yelling or raising your voice, or the feelings he had in a situation. As S we take on many roles with our S...friend, lover, and sometimes parent or sibling... It may be possible H was reminded of his Mother, had to defend himself by fuguing, and that is where the criticisms came from...he may have said some horrible stories about you, that were REALLY stories about his mother...

Please, please, please, get him help...someone who is familiar with DID...

In the interest of privacy I have decided to remove all of my posts. My intent is to remove fodder for discussion and mockery of on another board. This is no reflection on MB and those who gather here with the best of intentions to support one another. I do appreciate everyone—Carolyn—U have been an angel--and others for all their help and support.

For those of you--- wives/spouses who are still dealing with an OC, or the threat/ possibility of, I wish you all the best for you and yours.

I will be back to check in from time to time and to offer my support. Right now I have to make some decisions and choices for me and my children, and my marriage. The fact that OW is not pregnant changes nothing for me as far as I'm concerned, nor does his “coping” mechanism of his “amnesia”.


Hugs,

Best of luck to you Sleepless!

I think deleting your posts is a wise idea.

That other board is out of control - I just had to laugh though when I read something about "reading MB for entertainment" and blah, blah, blah "crazy BW", etc. BECAUSE that is exactly what I think of that particular board - I read it merely for entertainment and to see how wacko some OW really are!!

Anyway - hang in there. I know you will figure out what's right for you and your marriage and your kids. Just know that not everyone out here in cyberland is so cynical and there are people that believe your story and believe in you!

Sleepless,

I completely understand erasing your information. I normally stand up for the BW's on the other board, and I won't stop. Some of the comments are ridiculous, but I will always stand for whats right.

Take care, and I look forward to hearing all the positive things that come about in your life.

CH

Sleepless,

i am sorry that some people take such purile delight in mocking the pain of others. i understand why you have removed your posts. it is a shame becuase i think that they were valuable not just for you later on, but for others who lurk and might be in the same situation.

But you gotta do what you gotta do. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I am glad too that you finally got the peices of the puzzle you needed to find some peace in all of this. It is hard to hear those sorts of details but at least now you know you are coming from a position of knowledge. The OW just lost her last hold over you. she cant hurt you anymore.

Now go and heal!

lots of love

Carolyn

Hey don't sweat it hun. Some of those OW get amnesia themselves, they conveniently forget how crappy MM treats them and continue to eat up any crumbs they get thrown their way.

lol. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

LOVE this saying....LOVE IT!!!!

ALL OW DON'T RESPOND OR COMMENT ON ANYTHING I POST EVER. I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK TO U!
I am here to speak to other BSs that Can relate to my situation and OUR shared experiences.
I COULD CARE LESS WHAT ANY OW HAS TO SAY ABOUT ANYTHING, EVER!

ok savannah
What is going on with you?
You posted on a thread geared toward myself before and did not answer anything there.

Now you are quoting me... I am sorry but I have to feel you may not be on the up and up.

I would like to know if you have a problem with me?