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Dr. Harley's long awaited revision to Surviving an Affair is out, and you can get it on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Affair-Willard-Jr-Harley/dp/0800719549

You can even get it in Kindle format:

http://www.amazon.com/Surviving-an-Affair-ebook/dp/B00B85M2AM

So, why don't we read through the book together and discuss it here? Everybody can benefit from studying this book. When Prisca and I attended Marriage Builders weekend, SAA (1st edition) was in the package, with the statement that it was "a book Dr. Harley would like you to read even if you are not faced with the tragedy of an affair." This is a good suggestion for everyone. Learning about what it takes to recover a marriage from the tragedy of an affair helps you learn what it takes to recover romantic love in any marriage. And it will help improve everyone's ability to help the many posters in trouble who come through this forum.

We can take a chapter a week and post our thoughts here on this thread and help keep each other motivated to go all the way through the book as we learn and discuss together. I've set up a schedule and I'm hoping many people will join me.

We will do chapter one week, the week of July 14th. Chapter one is very short and you can actually read the whole thing on Amazon by clicking "look inside." We probably won't have a lot to say, but this will give people time to get ahold of the book. Buy it from Amazon, buy it from Marriage Builders, finagle your way onto Marriage Builders Radio as a caller and get it free, but get it somehow. If you buy the Kindle version, you can have it instantly. (You don't even have to have a Kindle; you can read it on your computer.) Chapter two will be the week of July 21st, so try to have it by then.

Post here if you are interested!

07-14: 1 You Can Survive This Affair
07-21: 2 It Could Never Happen to Me!
07-28: 3 How Do Affairs Usually Begin?
08-04: 4 How Do Affairs Usually End?
08-11: 5 How Should Affairs End?
08-18: 6 What to Do if the Unfaithful Spouse Continues to Contact the Lover
08-25: 7 The First Steps on the Road to Marital Recovery
09-01: 8 Avoid Withdrawals, Part I: Overcome Love Busters
09-08: 9 Avoid Withdrawals, Part II: Overcome Dishonesty
09-15: 10 Avoid Withdrawals, Part III: Overcome Independent Behavior
09-22: 11 Make Deposits, Part I: Meet the Most Important Emotional Needs
09-29: 12 Make Deposits, Part II: Take Time for Undivided Attention
10-06: 13 Make Deposits, Part III: Protect Your Love Bank from Outside Threats
10-13: 14 Managing Resentment and Restoring Trust
10-20: 15 Sustaining Romantic Love


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It is a coincidence that you posted this, markos. I just got out my SAA book again. a few days ago. I started at chapter 7, but I can review with the rest of you.

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Great idea Markos!!

I have just started reading the revised version on my computer, not sure I managed to finish the whole book the first time, and look forward to participate here. (Although I am in Plan B, not even close to recovery.)

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Count me in. I'd like to take a look at what's in the revised edition.


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I would like to participate, too. Is that okay as a FWW or are you wanting BS's only?



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I will be participating, too, Lifetime. Of course you're more than welcome to join smile

BTW, your contributions on the board have been fantastic. Thank you!


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Originally Posted by LifetimeLearner
I would like to participate, too. Is that okay as a FWW or are you wanting BS's only?

Please join in. Everybody is welcome to read and discuss. Married, unmarried, betrayed, wayward, or neither.


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Originally Posted by Prisca
BTW, your contributions on the board have been fantastic. Thank you!

Agree. smile


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I'm in.


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Great to have you, Brain.

I count 8 so far. This should be good. smile


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Me too!


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I' like to join the discussion too.

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Originally Posted by Rocketqueen
It is a coincidence that you posted this, markos. I just got out my SAA book again.
I think markos might be talking about the new edition. I haven't compared it to the old edition yet, but I imagine the differences are significant.


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Originally Posted by SugarCane
Originally Posted by Rocketqueen
It is a coincidence that you posted this, markos. I just got out my SAA book again.
I think markos might be talking about the new edition. I haven't compared it to the old edition yet, but I imagine the differences are significant.

Yeah, I don't have the new edition. But I'll keep an eye on this thread and discuss if possible smile

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Originally Posted by Rocketqueen
Originally Posted by SugarCane
Originally Posted by Rocketqueen
It is a coincidence that you posted this, markos. I just got out my SAA book again.
I think markos might be talking about the new edition. I haven't compared it to the old edition yet, but I imagine the differences are significant.

Yeah, I don't have the new edition. But I'll keep an eye on this thread and discuss if possible smile

(Tricky tip: go on the radio show again and get one. smile )


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So far we've got:
markos
Prisca
Rocketqueen
FooledMeTwice
FightTheFight
LifetimeLearner
TranquilDark
BrainHurts
SugarCane
Bikerwife
mrs_cen
RNR2013

I'm excited! smile


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Originally Posted by markos
So far we've got:
markos
Prisca
Rocketqueen
FooledMeTwice
FightTheFight
LifetimeLearner
TranquilDark
BrainHurts
SugarCane
Bikerwife
mrs_cen
RNR2013

I'm excited! smile
Me too. smile

Did you see my request/suggestion on the SAA thread? Do you know if we can do that?


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Thank you Markos and Prisca, what you said means a lot to me.

My other question is: do we start first chapter discussion on the 14th or read for a week and discuss 7 days after the 14th?



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Originally Posted by markos
Great to have you, Brain.

I count 8 so far. This should be good. smile
Great idea, Markos! I'm in smile I am doing family time on vacation right now and my posting time is limited, but I am reading along for now!


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Originally Posted by LifetimeLearner
Thank you Markos and Prisca, what you said means a lot to me.

My other question is: do we start first chapter discussion on the 14th or read for a week and discuss 7 days after the 14th?

Good question. We start discussing chapter one on the 14th and can discuss it for the whole week. Then chapter two the next week on the 21st through the 28th.

I doubt we'll be able to fill up the whole week with discussion on chapter one, but some of the later chapters hopefully we will.

My intent is to try to read the whole chapter at the beginning of the week and reread at least once during the week, and to try to have at least a little something to say about it each day.


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