You may be able to find some help here: (not sure if you knew about this site or not) <p>http://www.gloryb.com/

<p>[ June 06, 2002: Message edited by: Lor (Lor) ]</p>

Thank you for your quick reply, FS.<p>I'm just curious.....<p>You said that his W is paying other bills with the CS money.....
What was her job and income status before
he left? Was he the main breadwinner?<p>Just curious. I know in my state, unless there is a legal agreement about spousal support and CS, the M'd couple still have financial responsibility to one another and their family regardless of R status before their divorce. Has something to do with abandonment...
Is there such an agreement between them?<p>If she is paying other bills with the CS money, then there has to be a reason why(if she needs a reason). How else would she get the children around if she didn't have a car? <p>Unless there is a legal agreement between them, the MM is responsible for his family, W included, until divorced and, at times, after a divorce. <p>.....rain storm brewing. Got to shut down. <p>Goodluck, FS.<p>Just my thoughts.
InTheClouds

Lor (Lor)<p>Why did you delete your post? It was a good, heatfelt response.<p>Z

Zorweb,
My long, heartfelt response is still there. The deleted one felt like trouble. It was a short one and I didn't second-think before posting. Unless that's the one you saw, then you know it was "heatfelt" as you said [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] .

zorweb, you are on your 3rd marriage and you are dispensing advise! classic...

Zorweb
a ws defending an ow (findingmywayback/SOW22MM)<p>THAT is classic!...

A BS defending a BS, classic!! lmao<p>I don't know anyone that's been married 3 times... That's quite a record!<p>[ June 06, 2002: Message edited by: findingmywayback ]</p>

findingmywayback
lmao too!!! [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] <p>My response came before this:
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr> I don't know anyone that's been married 3 times... That's quite a record! <hr></blockquote><p>I got caught doing the same thing I hate which is why I laughed back. <p>There is really nothing funny about this. IMHO OW should go to OW board. She was busting boundaries by getting involved with a MM and she is busting boundaries by coming to a marriageBuilders site seeking help. She got banned from another forum and now is once again busting boundaries. It has been so hard to NOT get sucked into this debate BUT what can I say... I'm in it now.<p>[ June 06, 2002: Message edited by: I LuvNprotect ME ]</p>

findingmywayback <p>lol, you are too funny. [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] <p>Yes I am in my third marriage. Why do you think that precludes me from learning and participating in this forum?<p>What do you know of my history, my marriages and why I am divorced from my previous husbands? Do you think that all marriages should be saved regardless?<p>Aren't you the one who said let that sinners should not throw stones? So why do you now start throwing stones?<p> [img]images/icons/wink.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0[/img]

I don't think it precludes you from being involved, we all can learn something. Three marriages though, and then what happened with this one. You would not be someone I would seak advice from..

OW quote:
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>And, yes he, MM, does have a responcibility to our home. We entered into this home TOGETHER. WE signed the lease. We sat down and talked about expectations etc. prior to our moving in and came up w/ an informal contract <hr></blockquote><p>Wow look at what great lengths you go to show his responsibility to you. It is amazing how you can build a relationship on lies and deciet YET expect you are gaining a faithful, loyal H. Because its "different" for you two and I just don't understand right? <p>Don't you see...no you really don't...

Of course she doesn't see LOL She's a single OW who destroyed a marriage and she's posting on a site called "MARRIAGEBUILDERS". You don't get anymore clueless than that.

Come on here people. And we complain when people complain about the marriage builders site. How about showing our best face. Ignoring the people we have no advice for and going on about our business. This back and forth between regular posters is really disturbing.<p>It is not anyones job here to make anyone see how wrong they are about anything.<p>If you have no advice or question then stay the heck away. You are only upsetting yourself and others.<p>Until a moderator shuts this (and they probably shoud) - but not ban the original poster, there is every reason to believe this is a valid post and the person has every right to be here. Without, that is, all this childish behavior.

justthewife, you are so diplomatic... I will behave now, I had to help my friend... [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img]

Good Grief<p>This has certainly gone south.<p>Are you people aware that TEMPEST the moderator here came to another board to let this woman know that her thread had been moved to general questions.<p>What does the fact that TEMPEST went out of her way to let this woman know, say to YOU?

Thank you.<p>Everyone else should do the same.<p>No advice? Get somewhere you could do some good.

findingmywayback <p>Why have you singled me out for this childish attack? You are way out of line.<p>If you think that I have no value in this life, that my sins, trials and tribulations render me a useless, non-human, then that is your choice. But please do not drag this board down to such a base level. <p>I do not need to justify my existence or my life to you. Until you know enough about me and my life to make an informed comment, hold your tongue. Just as you have judged me for my marriages, I could judge you for your infidelity in a young marriage. I may have been married three times, but I have never cheated on a husband. Despite plenty of opportunity, I would never do that to anyone I loved. Do not get holier then thou with me.<p>I married three times because I choose not to give up on love and life, not after the illness and death of a spouse, not after repeated infidelities by my second husband, and not after my current husband's breakdown. According to your rules, when does a person have to stop living and loving and hang their head in shame? I refuse to do that.<p>STL and I are fighting for our marriage and winning that fight hand over fist using the MB concepts. We are a success story.<p>Please leave me alone and do not ever post to me again. You are hateful.

Guess what BB is not working? (TOW)

All jokes aside<p>I would NEVER post this for a person who does NOT call themselves a Christian. However, it IS my job to be my brothers keeper.<p>John 8:7-11..."Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" "No one, sir," she said.
"Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin." <p>IT doesn't say go ahead and keep on sinning.<p>1 Corinthians 5
Expel the Immoral Brother!
1It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you...and have put out of your fellowship...When you are assembled in the name of our Lord Jesus and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature[1] may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord.
9I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people--... 11But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral ... With such a man do not even eat. 12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."[2] <p>Matthew 18:15"If your brother sins against you,[2] go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.'[3] 17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.