2long's UPDATE:

I'm in a hotel room.

More after I change my thread title! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" />

OMG! What happened!?!?!?!?!

Okay, I'll try to get this out.

We were watching Farscape, my W's and my favorite SciFi show on TV, and there were some heavy "trust triggers" in the story. When the first came up near the middle of the show, I got up and went outside for about 10 minutes. Came back in and finished watching, but there were more triggers at the end. Good MB stuff, actually. Only my W didn't get them at all. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

She went to bed afterwards without saying anything to me, so I decided I'd go in anyway. After all, it was "me" that got all "blue funky" over the TV show, right? I wanted to set the stage for a good weekend with her (good plan A, really, because I didn't really have a strong desire to "fake happy H" this weekend). She was reading a novel, so I laid down and read Divorce Remedy.

That was all okay for a while, then we turned out the light and were talking. Nothing heavy from this end. No R talk, unless initiated by WW and without LBing. Well, at one point she changed from whatever it was to saying

W: "I wish that I could clone me so I could be 2 places at once."

2long: I didn't respond at first, but after a couple similar remarks from her, I asked "why would you want to be 2 places at once? Where else would you want to be?"

W: "Isn't it obvious?"

2long: "You want to be here and with Rat Meat, is that what you're saying?"

W: "Yes. <something about her promise to be sexually faithful to me> "It's just a friendship."

2long: "That's no longer possible."

W: "You expect me to break off all contact with this person. To never see or speak to him again for the rest of my life!"

2long: "Yes, I do. Have you two ever thought about the consequences of your decision to have an A? Do you realize what his family is going through now that you've broken it up? Do you realize what will happen to OUR family when we break up due to your A?"

W: "You can't expect me to give up half of who I am. That's what you're asking me to do, you know."

2long: "<something to the effect of facing consequences or you shoulda thought of that 12 years ago>"

W: "You want this person that you thought you've been M'd to for all these years, and that's not who I am."

2long: "I want my W back, that's all. I want us to be a couple <or words to that effect>"

W: "Fine (famous conclusion word). You don't have to go to the swap meet with me tomorrow. I'll go stay at coworker's house while she's out of town next weekend."

2long gets dressed, packs about a week's worth of $hit, packs his laptop (but leaves the charger, so he's on battery), and says goodbye for a few days. 2long doesn't cry. 2long stays strong. 2long wonders where the hell to go, but remembers where friends at work stay when they're visiting from out of town. Dive hotel, but reasonably cheap.

Before I left, I said bye to my son, that I'd be in a hotel for a while, and that I'd call about taking him to fly his RC airplane on Sunday. When I got to the hotel, I left a message on my D's cell phone. She's out with friends, who are going to stay the night at the rental, so she must have left her phone in her room. I asked her to call me back when she gets home.

Folks, I need to figure out what I'm going to do. I will "entertain" myself working on that plan B letter draft. I started on it yesterday, based on one in the archives, but it's pretty long already. Maybe I need the detail, maybe i don't. I say nothing about who stays in the house and who leaves. I still need to figure that out. I also need to see an attorney as soon as possible, if I'm really going to plan B soon. I don't know. Possibly a remote plan A. I think I can be civil over the phone, for example, but I don't know about my W. Since her email to him a week ago said something about getting together soon, I assume he's planning to visit family in the near future, and so it's possible she'll see him. I have no idea if they'd get physical or not. I'm sure they'll hug and kiss, as she doesn't think that's inappropriate between friends. He will definitely want more. I can't worry about that. Let her figure it out.

I just want to protect my family and my finances as quickly and seamlessly as possible.

I sure hope that it's possible that my W will pull her head out of her a$$ someday soon, but somehow I doubt she ever will. If not, I'm pretty sure I'll be okay. I didn't expect this day to come so soon, but I had pretty much prepared myself over the past few days after realizing just how serious this A ongoing really is.

At least, leaving her at home, she's going to have to do the explaining to our son, her mom and sister (and other family as they learn about events). I don't plan to say anything to my sisters or dad anytime soon, at least until I know whether this is the beginning of plan B or just a temporary respite away from home.

Any thoughts?

Geez, 2L; this is a tough one. Don't take this as my final, comopletely though-through answer, I'm very tired and haven;t had time to think, but maybe this is just what the Dr. ordered.

Straight to Plan B. Finish your letter over the weekend, make more "permanent" living arrangements (extended stay, maybe), think it through, make a list, and go home when your W's not there or get your D to bring you the rest of the stuff you'll need, deliver the letter, and off you go.
On Monday (or as soon as practicable) get a hold of an attorney, consult on your legal and financial matters, and proceed to make the necessary arrangements asap.

Might just be the jolt she needs.

Regardless, we're here for you, I'll be around all weekend (you have my number), and start getting some support network together (Family, friends, co-workers, other people you can start seeing and talking to)

I forgot to add that I think you did the right thing.

What she said is absolutely beyond any possibility of being acceptable.
It's as if my W said "I'm going to continue seeing the OM, get over it" I'd react the same way.

I have got to get to bed, my eyelids are shutting down, but I'll leave the cell on if you need to call. DO NOT hesitate if you feel you need to talk!

<small>[ July 20, 2002, 01:27 AM: Message edited by: Spacecase ]</small>

Okay, this is way long, I realize, but I'd already drafted it up and I'm sitting here with nothing better to do (don't like TV, and am getting too tired to read)

Here's my very first draft of a plan B letter. Lots to be worked out and fine-tuned, and I'm still not certain I'm going to B NOW, versus soon, so maybe I have a few days for feedback before I send it off, if I do.

Remember, I don't have the benefit of MB C in this, but my IC was very helpful and understanding of what I needed to do. He asked me pointed questions the other day about how certain I was about the continued contact, based on what I'd seen. That was before the convo with my W, when she told me that she had opened the account specifically for email with Rat Meat, and that this was her privacy and I had no business knowing anything about it. So, a lot developed after my IC session. Then a lot tonight. More of same, really, but much greater clarification of my W's fog, and determination to hang on to "friendship."

Okay, here's the draft. Tell me what you think:

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Dear W:

I apologize to you for my part in creating your dissatisfaction with our marriage that led to your decision to have an affair with Rat Meat. Although I've ALWAYS loved you, more than you can imagine, I must have made you feel that everything that I do for myself was more important to me than you are. It never was the case, but I can see now that that is how I made you feel and for that I am sorry.

I said and did many things out of feelings of hurt that I can assure you I never meant. I wish I didn’t have that tendency to clam up and withdraw when you were trying to reach out to me, but unfortunately I can’t undo what’s happened. If I had known what I know now, I truly believe that we would never have become withdrawn from each other, and you would not have felt the need for companionship from Rat Meat. Instead, I would hurt you back when I felt hurt, consciously or subconsciously, and I know that was wrong. I have learned this is wrong and through the counseling I am getting, I believe that I am learning to change that behavior into something positive. I have also learned not to internalize things so much. This is still hard for me but I am trying. And I also need to recognize when to be patient and not burden you with my problems if you aren’t ready to work with me on them.

I spent too much time at work, sometimes on holidays, weekends, and late into the night to meet deadlines over the years, and my telescope hobby, particularly the last couple of years, without understanding my responsibility to meet your most important needs for attention and admiration. I was not there for you when you needed me the most and so now we both are suffering for my mistakes. I am willing to avoid the mistakes I have made in the past and create a NEW life for us, wherein we cherish each other’s company, encourage and support each other dreams and accomplishments. I truly believe that it is possible with what I have learned. But I cannot do that until you end your relationship with Rat Meat once and for all.

On the way to the airport the other day, you and coworker that knows about A were talking about work issues regarding Rat Meat. Also, on our way back from out of state over the 4th of July weekend, you alluded to your desire to have Rat Meat analyze your samples from work and compare the results to those from your own project out of state. I didn’t feel comfortable asking for clarification either time, because the first time our son and your mom were in the car, and the second time coworker that knows about A was there. I didn’t want to embarrass you, them, or myself by having an argument about Rat Meat those times. But, if you indeed intend to have Rat Meat work on your own project with you, that implies very long-term contact, and I will not live with you under those conditions.

The other night, you indicated to me that you set up your hotmail account specifically for correspondence with Rat Meat. You said that it was private, and your contact with him is not any of my business. I understand that you are afraid of how I might react to the content of your emails to and from Rat Meat, but I assure you that you are missing the point about my concerns with continued contact. And you need to realize that we cannot have an intimate marital relationship if we keep “secret second lives” from each other. We simply cannot begin recovery from the consequences of the bad decisions of the past until you sever all contact with Rat Meat, and do so permanently. Similarly, Rat Meat can’t restore his broken family so long as he keeps in contact with you. Because you had two affairs with him, any type of relationship, be it personal or professional, would be inappropriate and disrespectful, and a serious threat to both our families from this point on.

I realize that Rat Meat is still working for you on the work project, and that he’s had to reconstruct his analysis results because OMW deleted his computer files when she found out about your affair in May. I can accept that you need his input to finish the report for the recent project, but I cannot accept your insistence that YOU must handle the correspondence with him. You should have either coworker that knows about A or other coworker handle all correspondence with Rat Meat from now on. I personally am not impressed with his ability to deliver a quality product to you in a reasonable time, and feel that your desire to continue using his consulting services is doing your career a tremendous disservice. I would prefer you NOT use his services for any future projects with <company name>. But, if you’ve already subcontracted him to do the work and you can’t stop funding his subcontract, show me some respect by ensuring that you have NO direct correspondence with him whatsoever. Again, let one of your coworkers handle the correspondence. Remember, you had said, back before OMW found out about your affair, that you planned to hand over all communication to coworker that knows about A after the current report was finished. An even better idea would be for you to find another job, and let your successor at <company name> deal with Rat Meat.

Since OMW threw Rat Meat out when she learned of your affair in May, Rat Meat has begun pressuring you to consider a working relationship with his museum to support your own project. I believe this is a transparent attempt on his part to entice you back into your affair with him. You acknowledged that this is probably the case when we discussed it after our counseling session on D’s birthday. I cannot accept this. If rebuilding our marriage and protecting our family is important to you, I need you to take some extraordinary precautions to protect me and our family from further hurt due to continued contact with Rat Meat:

1) If you have not yet hired Rat Meat to work on these upcoming projects, DO NOT hire him. Get someone else to do that work, or do some other analysis.
2) If you HAVE already hired Rat Meat for these projects, FIRE HIM NOW.
3) If you have already hired him to work on these projects, and you CAN’T fire him, QUIT YOUR JOB. You aren’t happy with <company name> anyway.
4) DO NOT have Rat Meat involved in your own project, in any way, whatsoever.
5) We need to write a “No Contact” letter that we can both agree on and sign, to Rat Meat, instructing him to stay out of your life for the rest of your life. We should send this letter to Rat Meat, to OMW, and to Rat Meat’s boss. I want it clear to them that if this “proposal opportunity” he mentioned to you gets supported, that he is NOT to be involved with you in any way.

Until you agree to sever contact with Rat Meat and commit to recovery of our marriage, I will avoid seeing you or talking to you. I will also not be able to help you financially. I will have my paycheck deposited into a new account that you will not have access to. As soon as I can make the transfer, I expect you to take over the responsibility for your car payments. If there is a family emergency or anything related to the house that we must discuss, it will have to be done through Valerie or your mom, or you may contact me via email or voice mail. I encourage you to visit your family when you need to and when it is convenient to do so. But I will need to be informed as to when you plan to visit, so that I can arrange to be elsewhere.

I ask you to respect my decision to separate from you in this manner. You must know about the suffering I have endured because of your relationship with Rat Meat, and your continued lies about contact. I simply cannot be with you any longer, knowing you are continuing to contact him intentionally without my knowledge. I will not fight for our marriage alone anymore. I am worn out and my work performance is suffering as a result. I still love you, but I cannot see you under these conditions any longer

As soon as you are willing to permanently sever all contact from Rat Meat, I will be willing to talk about our future, and the future of our family. I truly want to be able to rebuild our M someday. I want us to be able to meet each other's emotional needs and to avoid doing anything to hurt each other. We need to build a new lifestyle in which everything we do makes us both happy. I want to be your best friend again, someone who is always there for you when you need me. And I want you as my best friend.

I have spent most of my life in love with you. I loved you when you came out to visit me in Rock Point in the summer of 1974. I’ll never forget that walk we had in the red rock canyons outside Rock Point for the rest of my life. That was the first time we held hands. I still get that same thrill, holding hands with you now. It is sad, but I just cannot be with you or help you anymore as long as you are continuing any kind of relationship with Rat Meat.

With all my love,
2long.

Rat F***ing Meat:
I love my W with all my heart and soul and will do whatever it takes to make her happy. I will wait for her to give me that chance. I think you should do the same for your W and your two boys. You need to cease any and all efforts to contact my wife for the rest of your life.

((((((((((((((((((2long)))))))))))))))

Almost the same scenario played out in our bedroom a couple of times. The major difference was that while I packed my bags, I allowed him to talk me into staying. I see now it was only because he didn't know how he would look after the kids and work, too.

When I did stay, I think it eroded what little respect he had left for me, and my self-respect was way down the tubes, too. I sometimes wonder how this would have worked out had I the guts to walk out that door.

That you did is giving your wife a big message - you will not be second best, you will not be a door mat and you will not share her under any circumstances. I am betting it is the LAST thing she expected you to do, and I do hope it goes in your favour.

As to the Plan B, remember........never go into it as a knee jerk reaction to the situation, never begin it in anger and take the time to assess this when you are rested (again) and able to think without the immediacy of the emotions going through you right now.

You are right, the Plan B letter is too long, mostly because it discusses many details, which I know are important to you, but she will skim over, if she gets that far at all. Somewhere I read that a Plan B leter should not be more than two pages in length (and no cheating with small fonts or single spacing allowed <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> ).

I am tired tonight, so I will try to give you a crit tomorrow. By that time others will have probably stepped in. But in the meantime, do take this time to think, breathe and chill out, because things could get hard really fast now. take care of yourself first.

Love and much healing light,

Jacky

dear 2long-im so sorry for what you are going through. big hugggggssssss to you. i read the whole thing last night-i have been busy with my own dillemma lately. i think you leaving was couragous, be strong and be safe. im afraid a separation may be in my future too.

Hello 2Long,

Just tossing in my opinion.....

Please don't sent this Plan B letter until you have feedback from seasoned MBers. I stopped reading it at the first disrespectful judgement.

You have done Plan A for so long and so well, please don't blow it now at the end! Wait for the calvary to get here to help you!!

Good luck 2long

I have to think on it a little. I'll read it over a couple more times.

I think you made the right choice walking out. She was being completely disrespectful. I don't think you should go back...just my opinion. I realize it's not as "planned" as you wanted...but if you go back it becomes "just a fight where you walked out in a tissy fit" instead of "point taken". That's exactly how she's going to see it for a while until/unless she sees how serious you are.

I hate to say...but in your case it may take QUITE a lot to wake your wife up. She's extremely arrogant.

You deserve better....you know this...you want more...you know this...so you aren't left with many other options. Just do the best with the option you have.

Again...sooooo sorry it's come to this. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

SC:

"Straight to Plan B. Finish your letter over the weekend, make more "permanent" living arrangements (extended stay, maybe), think it through, make a list, and go home when your W's not there or get your D to bring you the rest of the stuff you'll need, deliver the letter, and off you go."

I plan to do this. The living arrangements issue is a little uncertain with me. One idea, that my W would probably WANT me to try, is making living space in our garage (under the guest house), or with my MIL in the guest house. Or, I could probably get the gas turned on in the house so I'd have hot water, run the power from the garage so I'd have light... but I don't want to be near her. Too easy for her to "break" plan B by coming over (our rental is across the street from our house).

I could probably stay for an extended period with my coworker - the one everybody got worried about in March because she's female. Well, she's also ten years older than I am, has been DV'd twice and isn't any more interested in me than I am in her. She's got a two-bedroom house near work, and she'd offered before.

Another option would be to stay with a male coworker, but he's leaving for a new job at the end of the month, and even if his apartment is available, it's money and I'd rather see if it's something I want before I agree to rent it.

The third option is to talk to our realtor, who worked with us on 3 separate occasions now and was who my W was talking to about buying a rental house in the past few months. She manages rentals as part of her realtor business, and under the circumstances I think she'd be very helpful. And she's fast.

But the best option by far would be to get my W to agree to move out, so that I could be with my son (remember, my D is leaving in a few days for 5 months).

"On Monday (or as soon as practicable) get a hold of an attorney, consult on your legal and financial matters, and proceed to make the necessary arrangements asap."

I will call my IC at work on Monday. She had given me a couple of attorney names back in March. Like the optimist that I am, I thought we were going to do fine on our own, so I didn't keep the numbers (unless they're still written down somewhere in my office - I'll check today).

"Might just be the jolt she needs."

Gawd, I sure hope so. The anti-M remarks, the really brutal attack on my need for SF the other night, and the insistence on her privacy and Rat Meat friendship have been too much this week. And though I've been tired this week, I've been amazingly calm about it all, considering. So, in many ways I do believe that this is the time to try to wake her up.

"Regardless, we're here for you, I'll be around all weekend (you have my number), and start getting some support network together (Family, friends, co-workers, other people you can start seeing and talking to)"

I will definitely post a lot. I can go to my office for the day and get some more work caught up at the same time. I'm going to have to think about the family support issues. A couple of my sisters live within an hour or so of here. One, I see on holidays, but she's got a very rigid family life and really wouldn't be helpful. The other has major problems of her own. The other two live up north. The first is an 8hr drive away, the other 11 hrs. They're both good people, but my 8r sister's H passed away a few years ago and she's still getting her life back together. The other one is the one I'll probably eventually talk to the most, as she loves my W too. My dad turned 85 on Pepper's birthday <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> and lives near the 8r sister. I'd rather not bother him with this stuff. He's doing okay, but he's starting to go. My mom passed away 6 years ago.

The coworker that offered a stay at her place would be a good person to talk to as well, but she's definitely not up on MB - thinks things like flirting are harmless (but I guess a lot of people do). Said some of the wrong things back in March, innocently enough, but I was able to recognize they wouldn't be helpful advice and so didn't take them. She's having a party at her house tonight, which my W and I were invited to, so I'd have to stay at a hotel tonight, at least.

SC:

"I forgot to add that I think you did the right thing."

Thanks. It means a lot to me to hear this.

"What she said is absolutely beyond any possibility of being acceptable."

And you know? It's because she keeps settling back into the thick fog mode after moments of lucidity (where she realizes what she must do - NC!) that I realize that H4F is absolutely right. She won't wake up unless she's given a serious jolt. I just hope it doesn't take 2 years!!!! (I'll be long gone by then, I can assure you).

"It's as if my W said "I'm going to continue seeing the OM, get over it" I'd react the same way."

This is essentially what my W said. Multiple times.

"I have got to get to bed, my eyelids are shutting down, but I'll leave the cell on if you need to call. DO NOT hesitate if you feel you need to talk!"

SC, I WILL call you! You can bet on that. But I'll let you get some sleep first. I actually got about 5 hours last night, so I feel alright now. I learned my lesson the other night!! Got to be rested to function worth a darn.

(((((2LONG)))))

So sorry. You did the right thing in my opinion.

Regarding your letter.... make yourself a copy, but don't send her this one.

Paragraphs to keep and refine:
1. I apologize...
2. I said and did ...
9. Until you agree ...
10. I ask you ...
12. I have spent ... (I loved this paragraph, by the way!)

Paragraphs you might want to consider dropping altogether:
3. I spent too much ...
4. On the way to ...
5. The other night ...
6. I realize that ...
7. Since OMW ...
8. (This list 1-5)...
11. As soon as ...

What are you going to do today?

Pepper

Nina Too:

"That you did is giving your wife a big message - you will not be second best, you will not be a door mat and you will not share her under any circumstances. I am betting it is the LAST thing she expected you to do, and I do hope it goes in your favour."

I said pretty much these exact words to my W last night, calmly but firmly. I would certainly like to *think* that this isn't what she expected, and I think that's the right answer, but it's sure weird being in this position, even after reading about others' experiences!

Thank you

nikko:

Thank you for the kind thoughts. I'm sorry you may be in a similar situation soon.

I'm also sorry to all my friends here for being so focused on my own problems. Certainly, it's understandable, but I definitely learn some of my best MB material by reading and posting to others' threads.

Maybe now, I'll have the time to do that <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

Yet Again:

I promise!!!

Like I've said many times. If I learned anything, it's to wait and calm down, and get good feedback before sending anything that could backfire.

That letter has a lot of my anger from 3 days ago in it. I would actually prefer to write something of a couple of long paragraphs in length, but that's a challenge. I write well (scientific papers, at least) when I take my time, so that's what I need to take.

2L,

Your courage is to be celebrated, not the courage to be brave (although that too), but the courage to be willing to take on the work to change.

I share your sadness. We have been separated but living together, brother sister sort of thing. While I plan a, all I really get to do is watch her be in love with someone else. I'm ready to leave <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" /> but the courage thing.....

You are right, protect the family (kids) now by protecting yourself, financal, emotional, etc

Also, I think showing yourself now as being decisive is improtant to maintain the respect of the family by letting time know this is not a quick, kne-jerk thing.

Yes, Plan b letter is long, you want her to know you know all these things an how you feel about them. It does not really matter now does it? Much of the mechanics will work out later....from what I have read the letter is a notice, not an explaination....but then it is always eaiser to edit than create...

Sorry it came to this when you were expecting a smooth weekend.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

good luck
DRS

H4F:

As one of the MBers here with often some of the toughest advice, and one who's most DEFINITELY been there and DONE that, I have a great deal of respect for your views. (So does my IC - I showed him one of your posts to my thread the other day).

"I have to think on it a little. I'll read it over a couple more times."

And remember, the final letter will be much shorter!!

"I think you made the right choice walking out. She was being completely disrespectful."

Yes. The hurtful comments have been WAY out of character, even for her in her post-D-day fog. I didn't need to hear even one more.

"I don't think you should go back...just my opinion. I realize it's not as "planned" as you wanted...but if you go back it becomes "just a fight where you walked out in a tissy fit" instead of "point taken". That's exactly how she's going to see it for a while until/unless she sees how serious you are."

I agree. I don't want to go back, and I DEFINITELY don't want to have to do this twice! She clearly doesn't realize how serious I am. Even the other night, after the DV convo, I could tell she thought I was just lashing out to hurt her. And, in the past (particularly before D-day) I probably did. But not this time. If anything, these "hurtful comments" of mine were misguided attempts to wake her up without having to go to plan B. And so I learned a lot from them.

"I hate to say...but in your case it may take QUITE a lot to wake your wife up. She's extremely arrogant."

Yes, she is!!

"You deserve better....you know this...you want more...you know this...so you aren't left with many other options. Just do the best with the option you have."

I will.

"Again...sooooo sorry it's come to this. "

Thanks, I'm sorry too.

Pepper!

"So sorry. You did the right thing in my opinion.
Regarding your letter.... make yourself a copy, but don't send her this one."

I promise!!

"Paragraphs to keep and refine:
1. I apologize...
2. I said and did ...
9. Until you agree ...
10. I ask you ...
12. I have spent ... (I loved this paragraph, by the way!)
Paragraphs you might want to consider dropping altogether:
3. I spent too much ...
4. On the way to ...
5. The other night ...
6. I realize that ...
7. Since OMW ...
8. (This list 1-5)...
11. As soon as ..."

Okay. I've re-read those and followed your recommendations for deleting paragraphs. I will re-read it again and possibly reword some of the other stuff, then repost it later today.

"What are you going to do today?"

Got to go in to work at least. I have a second charger in my office for my laptop, and need it (the indicator just turned red).

After that, I don't quite know. If my W were to really go to the swap meet with her mom, which she likes to do, I might have the whole morning to work on "therapy projects" for ME (not her). I'm definitely open to suggestions, though...

SC:

"I forgot to add that I think you did the right thing."

Thanks. It means a lot to me to hear this.

"What she said is absolutely beyond any possibility of being acceptable."

And you know? It's because she keeps settling back into the thick fog mode after moments of lucidity (where she realizes what she must do - NC!) that I realize that H4F is absolutely right. She won't wake up unless she's given a serious jolt. I just hope it doesn't take 2 years!!!! (I'll be long gone by then, I can assure you).

"It's as if my W said "I'm going to continue seeing the OM, get over it" I'd react the same way."

This is essentially what my W said. Multiple times.

"I have got to get to bed, my eyelids are shutting down, but I'll leave the cell on if you need to call. DO NOT hesitate if you feel you need to talk!"

SC, I WILL call you! You can bet on that. But I'll let you get some sleep first. I actually got about 5 hours last night, so I feel alright now. I learned my lesson the other night!! Got to be rested to function worth a darn.