</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by relate:
<strong>Why can't you write proper english like everyone else?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">He's a scientist <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

So now tell us who's been pissing on your Cheerios?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by TooMuchCoffeeMan:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by relate:
<strong>Why can't you write proper english like everyone else?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">He's a scientist <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

So now tell us who's been pissing on your Cheerios?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">coffee man: thanks for making me laugh, I was eating Cheerios at the moment, yuck!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

gc:

"coffee man: thanks for making me laugh, I was eating Cheerios at the moment, yuck!!! "

I'll never eat a bowl again!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Actually, though, don't I write pretty good? I think I'm actually a rather well writer!

But 2 use English properly wouldn't show the requisite amount of disrespect of my revolting sense of humor!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

You don't suppose that relate is actually (TA TA TAAA!) RM <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> ?

TMCM:

RM? Hm... doubt it. But BRING HIM ON!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Update:

Had a good weekend with the W, working on our house. During the night, sa2rday night, I woke up after some nightmare about RM, and she asked me what was wrong. I told her I had a nightmare. She waited a long time and then asked me what about, so I told her it was about RM.

We then had a LONG talk, all without raising our voices, about continued contact, about what RM is up 2 (he's dating someone!), about life, the universe, and everything pretty much. It went very well. I made no demands, just showed her that I love her. She's starting 2 realize, finally, that the changes in me are probably going 2 be permanent (heck, you guys KNOW that 2 be true, but she's got 12 years of mistrusting me 2 overcome). This will take more time, and all, but I'm optimistic still.

It was the best weekend I've had in a very long time. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

I hope things continue to improve. Sounds really positive. I wish Space could have one of these kinds of talks, would do wonders for both of them. But, I don't know if his wife is ready yet.

I have always been big on connumication so I am glad that is working for you. It has always seemed to me ( and worked in my own life) than when we can tell our spouse our hopes and fears and talk about these things withoug anger or judgement that we can really strengthen the bonds between us.

Thanks for shareing the good news with us.

SS

SS:

Thanks! I think SC is doing some fine work of his own right now. I think he's doing the right things and in the right time with regard 2 his M. He'll win the war.

Yep, I'm big on communication, particularly since I realized that was a big problem of ours! Amazing, isn't it?

Keep looking up,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 2long:
<strong>Update:

Had a good weekend with the W, working on our house. During the night, sa2rday night, I woke up after some nightmare about RM, and she asked me what was wrong. I told her I had a nightmare. She waited a long time and then asked me what about, so I told her it was about RM.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well, of course, 2long, RM IS a nightmare. All on his own! I think it's good that you told her about the contents of the nightmare - she should know that this is even affecting your dreams.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">
We then had a LONG talk, all without raising our voices, about continued contact, about what RM is up 2 (he's dating someone!)

</strong> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">EXCELLENT!!! RM is dating someone else!!! I think that is wonderful! Let them fall madly, deeply, forever in love!! Wouldn't that be too cool?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> That is just too excellent. He's moving on in some ways... Perhaps he will move on in others. (How the heck long can you be happy spending your time sharing someone with their spouse, anyway. Especially when you live far, far away? I mean, really! What are they thinking???)

<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

It was the best weekend I've had in a very long time. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Good deal!! It's about time. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

MT

MT:

"EXCELLENT!!! RM is dating someone else!!! I think that is wonderful! Let them fall madly, deeply, forever in love!! Wouldn't that be too cool?? "

I think so. On the other hand, it bodes badly for HIS M and his family. I've been sorely tempted 2 paraphrase the quote "Happiness is not getting what you want, it's wanting what you have. ...your family" and follow that with "You, Rat Meat, are a fool." But cooler heads continue 2 prevail here! I won't say anything 2 him. I want him out of our lives 4ever. I have said this 2 my W, though.

It's sad, really. It shows just how low RM's own self-esteem is. At best, he's a fool. At worst, he's a wannabe womanizer. I feel very badly for his W and his 2 sons. They don't deserve the fallout of his behavior. This is a rebound relationship. He was just tossed out of his house in May.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 2long:
<strong>MT:

"EXCELLENT!!! RM is dating someone else!!! I think that is wonderful! Let them fall madly, deeply, forever in love!! Wouldn't that be too cool?? "

I think so. On the other hand, it bodes badly for HIS M and his family. I've been sorely tempted 2 paraphrase the quote "Happiness is not getting what you want, it's wanting what you have. ...your family" and follow that with "You, Rat Meat, are a fool." But cooler heads continue 2 prevail here! I won't say anything 2 him. I want him out of our lives 4ever. I have said this 2 my W, though.

It's sad, really. It shows just how low RM's own self-esteem is. At best, he's a fool. At worst, he's a wannabe womanizer. I feel very badly for his W and his 2 sons. They don't deserve the fallout of his behavior. This is a rebound relationship. He was just tossed out of his house in May.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Whoa, 2long. I did not realize or remember that RM was married! All this time, I thought he was otherwise unattached. While I do think this last turn of events is great for your situation, I feel VERY sorry for his family. How awful. It would be nice if he would wake up. (In a perfect world, huh?) But I guess that waking him up is not your job, and DEFINITELY is a big LB!

MT

<small>[ October 01, 2002, 04:08 AM: Message edited by: Maybe Tomorrow ]</small>

MT:

This all brought back a memory from 12 years ago, before the A started, that's bugged me for a long time when I found out the significance of it in about April or so.

About 12 years ago, my W mentioned 2 me that a female friend of hers highly recommended the movie "An unberable lightness of being" 2 my W. That my W would like it a lot. Well, I didn't think my W had ever seen it, but I did while I was on travel, because it was on cable that week. It's about a man who falls in love and marries a sweet gal. But he can't stop having As. Pretty much throughout the movie, until nearly the end. Sort of one of those foreign "art" films.

Well, my W, Rat Meat, and this gal worked in the same lab at that time. I only found out this year that it was Rat Meat that recommended the movie 2 my W, not her female friend. That speaks a lot about what Rat Meat "believes" about commitment and M, because he'd only been M'd a year or 2 by that point.

Yes, indeed. I feel very sorry for his W and sons. He's got most of his life of shoving his head up his nether regions 2 pull his head out from. I hope he makes it, but I'm not optimistic. 2sad.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 2long:
<strong>MT:

I only found out this year that it was Rat Meat that recommended the movie 2 my W, not her female friend. That speaks a lot about what Rat Meat "believes" about commitment and M, because he'd only been M'd a year or 2 by that point.

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">2long - Well, what a romantic that RM is, huh? That sounds like just a lovely movie. I'll have to watch for it. (NOT) Maybe it's too bad your wife didn't see the movie - she may have gotten a better idea of what ol' RM's all about years ago.

MT

MT:

Yeah. I don't know whether my W ever saw it or not. I seem 2 remember that it was on the lobotomy box again about a year or so ago, and that we 2rned it on in the middle. My W didn't seem 2 be interested in watching it, and now I wonder if it might have been because I didn't yet know about the A, and the A may have started partly as a result of this movie and the atti2des it represents.

In the movie, the main character has been something of a womanizer, until he meets the female main character. Then he tries not 2 have any more As, but quickly starts up again. Basically, jumps in2 the sack with anybody that will have him. One of the gals is a friend of both of them. His W finds out and tries 2 have a revenge ONS with a bartender, which she doesn't enjoy. The OW ends up moving 2 the states, but keeps in touch with both of them via mail (it takes place in the 30's or so). They start 2 patch their M up and get close, just in time 2 have a nice evening at a square dance and die in a truck accident on the way home. Cute, huh? It actually had something of a moral 2 it after all, but if RM was using it as a sort of "model" for his behavior, the moral of the story came late enough and was squelched fast enough (by the couple dying) that he could probably have ignored it just fine.

Still, this is all very sad. I don't think I'll be able 2 talk 2 my W about this for a while. Particularly the part about RMs self-esteem and how he values his female "friends." They can't mean all that much 2 him. And his poor W and kids? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />