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#1034219 10/19/02 12:07 AM
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Toro - You've got those wonderful boys. Continue to provide good care for them. Love them for they deserve it. Look at what you have left, not what you have lost. You are hurting but you are right to love those kids. They will always know and remember how much you cared for them. Put the rest in God's hands. Take care.

#1034220 10/18/02 01:49 PM
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Well, poo!

I for one, do NOT think I called Mrs. Toro a "whore" or anything of the sort. If anything, I think I'm being pretty understanding, even of her behavior, in my posts 2 Toro. She's a human being, and she's Toro's W. But she IS behaving VERY BADLY and is self destructing in a BIG WAY right now.

She's gone 2 her OM 2 get what she believes is missing from her M, and for the thrill of a "new love" R. It isn't REAL, though, and that's the real tragedy here. I feel very bad for her for not being able 2 see that right now. My own W did these things, though I didn't know about it until it was largely over. I love my W, and I can understand that Toro loves HIS W, even though she's doing what she's doing right now. She's got a LOT 2 lose as a consequence of her behavior. But does her OM? Heck no. He has 2 "give" very little 2 "hook" her. If she does decide 2 end her A, so what from his viewpoint? He'll have had the superficial R that he seems 2 want badly enough 2 lie 2 Toro directly when he assured him that he didn't want 2 continue his A with Mrs. Toro. No, this OM doesn't deserve even the not-so-subtle consideration of our humorous posts 2 HIM. Any of you know the black anaerobic mud in Newport Back Bay? That stuff's more pleasant 2 be around than this particular OM right now. ...but he can still redeem himself.

Assuming he's reading. I don't think he is. But he could chime in here any time and prove me wrong.

No apologies 2 OM from ol' 2long. Not until or unless he posts for discussion and changes his ways.

Plenty of apologies 2 Mrs. Toro, though, if she feels she wants them. She deserves our love, and certainly Toro's and HER FAMILY'S love. All she seems 2 think she needs now is the imitation love from her OM, who has a hidden agenda. But like I said above, I was not being disrespectful of her in my posts. You can elect 2 disagree with me if you wish.

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2Long, You are right again. My WW does deserve the Love from myslef and her family. Believe me SHE HAS IT. Her family loves her so much that they feel they have to step back and not enable her decisions. I have had a chance to talk to her family today. They are very hurt by what is happening. Her mother tells me she isn't sleeping much at all. They all worry to death over her. They feel they are just trying do the right thing. They never said they dissowned her at all.
As for myself, I love her very much and I know I always will. I have to let go of her and let her deal with her own decisions. I cannot change anything for her. I will never say that I will never want to make my marriage work. But, it is out of my hands at the moment. If and when that time comes I will deal with it. Right now, I'm pouring all my love and attention to my boys and myself. They need it more than anything. I won't let them down.

TORO

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I wont't give you any details folks, but I will say that this discussion will be a moot point soon enough.

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