Just doin' yard work today and hangin' out w/Chevy. Nice day, other than a bit windy.

Another strange thing yesterday, WW brought her camera over to take a pic of me w/dog. Strange behavior I thought. Don't know what to make of that.

No telling what that means. Who knows? Just keep on the path you are on. I feel like WW will be back. I don't know if you will want her or not.

No telling what that means. Who knows? Just keep on the path you are on. I feel like WW will be back. I don't know if you will want her or not.

"Where have you been? A Pratt and Whitney jet engine cannot be that interesting."

I bet it's not, either. Now, an unrestored FW-190, ME-109, or Zero might captivate the man, though. It would sure keep him off the streets cruising chicks for a number of years restoring the thing! (Can't put a chevy engine in one of THOSE, you know! Must be BONE STOCK <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> ).

I'm real partial 2 the FW-190. Beautiful airplane. So, that's my vote, if you're taking any!

Have you thought about plan B? Since the DV is underway and you appear 2 have done a decent plan A up 2 this point, it might jar her awake somewhat if you went dark on her.

best,
-ol' 2long

Sounds like some great Ol Aero-planes there 2long. I like the old P51. A real hot rod!

A plan B will pretty much take place all on its own once our dog passes away. Talking to the vet this a.m. pretty much says it will be about 2 weeks from now. We may consider putting her to sleep a week from now. He feels her kidneys are about to crash. According to what last weeks blood test showed. Seeing as how there is no other connection between us other than the dog, there won't be any reason for us to communicate. She'll be a wreck after the dog passes away and she'll have OM to comfort her. Haven't heard from her all day so I guess he's doing a good job in that department.

I fell off the MB wagon with that last email I sent her. It just about was a plan b letter. At the appropriate time I'll draft another that does a better job. She hasn't said anything about the D. She will be able to file around the 7th of april for the final. I dated the papers I signed the 17th of march. I was actually served papers the 9th of Febuary but I wasn't going to give her that date. Wanted to drag it out longer.

Nothing is impossible with God. Maybe the passing of our dog will burn the fog off for a day or two. She did mention that if she does go that it would be better that she doesn't suffer and is put to sleep with both "mommy and daddy" with her in the end. Don't recall the exact statement. But it was along the lines of her feeling sh!$$y about our dog passing away with us split up like this. She then cried and leaned her head on my shoulder.

Working on the yard today by myself was different. We did that kind of stuff together. I thought about that for a minute or two today. But I really didn't feel upset about it at all. Just a quiet kind of resignation.

I think I'll hit the hay...

Sorry to hear about your doggy. Your wife will be grieving the marriage and the dog. I feel sorry for her, but I guess that is her choice.

But I hope that you will get through this okay.

Hey guys. Sorry to hear about your doggie, Brett. Our dog just turned 14, and his days are numbered. He's getting a little crazy, too. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

I told WH about my lie tonight. I don't know if either of you remember, but when I was debating how far to push the Scout issue (because OW's son is in WH's Scout patrol, I couldn't decide to expose them there or not), I spoke with one of my friends who is also a leader to get her opinion.

This was after I promised WH I wouldn't tell anyone else about his A. Of course, I made that promise because he was angry with me, and I was trying to appease him. But, a promise is a promise.

I didn't intend to tell her. That is just the way the conversation went. Afterward, I felt bad for breaking my promise. About a week later, WH called me, very angry, telling me if I told her he was going to take away his paycheck, try and kick me out of the house and make me live in his apartment, take custody of the boys, etc.

And I lied without hesitation. I assured him I hadn't told her. Lied my butt off.

Tonight, I came clean with him. And he is all foggy again. Hopefully, since he has come out just recently, he'll remember the way. And we have our MC appointment - well, today, at 1.

Wish me luck. The fog sure is scary. He is a totally different man today than he was this weekend. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

Lots of love to you all.

SS

Hello again. I had to rescue Brett from the second page again!

Well, this morning WH isn't mad about the lying part, he is mad about the telling part. He feels betrayed (welcome to the club!), and can't believe I did the one thing I asked him not to (welcome to the club!).

We have counseling today. I am realizing this is his issue to deal with, not mine. What's done is done is done. I asked him today if he would rather I not told him, because now he feels uncomfortable at Scouts (this woman has known for 2 months now!). He said no, he would rather me have not told her.

Well, I would rather he have not had an affair with my supposed best friend! Hm. Funny how this whole situation is panning out.

I think this is just a large dose of reality in his face, and he is lashing out trying to digest it all. I will not be surprised (just disappointed again) if he threatens D again today.

*sigh*

This whole sitch sucks a$$. Oh well. Prayers for me, my friends. I could be joining Brett in D soon. We'll have a D party. With no dates. Just me and the hillbilly. We could go bowling. Or play pool. I'm not very good at pool, but you can't be either with your shorter leg - and drooling when you lean over the table because you have no teeth (yeah, except the one molar).

I'll post about my MC session today.

Lots of love.

SS

Good luck in MC today SS, hope it goes well. Radical honesty is a part of recovery.

Talked to vet doc today and my dogs' kidneys are too weak for heart med. So its a matter of time whether the kidneys or heart gives up.

Also found out today FIL goes in for a rotor-rooter on some arteries on friday. Good grief! He has had high BP for years and smokes like a chimney. So they must be clogged badly for them to go in. I'll have to call him this p.m. and give him h#!! for eating that big greasy cheesburger while he was up here last week.

When does it end? I am the rock, but geez, enough already. FIL and I are like the Skipper and Gilligan. Pray that all goes well.

Brett - Hang in there. It isn't over til it's over.

Hangin' by the hair of my chinny chin chin.

Sent WW a real short email today. She didn't read it yet. She had a busy day, construction crew busted the water main. Here it was;"I have been and always will be the rock in your life.Call if you need me." I get to bring her our dog tomorrow.

Brett -

The apostle Paul says, "Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable - if anything is excellent or praiseworthy - think about such things."

Out of all the people on these boards, I feel you two are my closest friends. I am so glad we all met and came together.

Brett, I am so sorry about your dog, and your WW. She must have some real inner demons to be living her life the way she is with you waiting for her.

Believer, you are the rock for so many of these lost souls on these boards. They (and I) really cling to your steadfastness, your steadiness. You are an inspiration on unconditional love. I realize you don't know if you have any left for WH, but you won't know until he defogs and loses OW and comes back, begging. You may find you were just protecting yourself.

Let's all keep on keeping on.

Lots of love.

SS

Yeah, we all have to stick together through this, and believe that the program does work.

I have made so many changes in my life that I feel like a different person.

Brett - Hang in there. I still think your wife will come back. You have been very good to her. Keep working on your issues. Do the work now so that the rest of your life will be wonderful.

Spiderslayer - Can you post the thing about flying by the instrument panel again? There are lots of new people having a hard time. By the way, how is your recovery doing?

Hanging for another day. No response from WW to my last email. Guess she's had enough of my prose. Going to see her this afternoon. Hope that goes well.

I too feel a great kinship for SS and believer. The voice of reason for me many times. It has been much easier to get through the rough times with such wonderful support. Still a long road ahead. With or without WW. It is about that time where she has been before. We'll see what the next couple weeks bring. She sure has a load on her plate;our dog, her dad. talk at YA'LL later..

Brett -
Like the Bible says, there is a time for sowing and a time for reaping.

I look at this time as a time for planting seeds. I'm planting like crazy - doing the MB program, posting here, starting a new business, spending time with friends, family, reaching out, working on spirutual growth.

However it is like when you plant a vegetable garden. You do the work preparing the area, you plant the seeds and water. Then you go out everyday and check it. Nothing seems to be happening. Then one day you see the sprouts, and you can't believe that in the future you will have a bounty to harvest. It is very hard to wait, but necessary.

Well friends, my recovery isn't going so well. I suppose this is normal?

WH is very angry that I told the Scout leader. I said it was a good thing I did talk to her, because I was going to go to the Scout Master.

He doesn't get it. He thinks me telling her is a deal breaker. I am beginning to realize, after arguing with him for the past two days, that this is his issue, not mine.

It is his guilt about what he has done. I told him he shouldn't feel any different about being a leader just because someone knows. Everything is the same as it was, he just knows now.

I don't know. I'm sure it is hard for him to deal with. He can't believe I think he would have put our kids in harm's way. I can't believe he would endanger his Scouting the way he did, either. So, we are at an impass.

He thinks it was nobody else's business. That may be. But what's done is done. I cannot undo it. And that is all he can focus on. Not what he is going to do about it now. He even said he was going to call this lady and tell her I made it all up! That is is a lie. I think that is OW talking.

Of course, after sending her an email saying they couldn't be friends, then having a phone conversation about it, he had to email her again yesterday to tell her sorry for being so mean to her. They have decided to put their friendship on hold until WH and I work on our marriage. Puke.

Anyway, I am disenchanted, wondering what the he!! I am doing wanting this total foggy schmuck back in my life. He keeps mentioning that he thinks I still NEED him, depend on him, and that one of the reasons I want him back is financial security. I said, what about all the years I was with you when we were dirt poor???

He has no response. Please pray for me and the schmuck. He has crammed his cranium back into his rectum, and I hope he pulls it out soon. My patience is fast disappearing.

OW has dumped him. He won't talk to any of his friends, because they all tell him the same thing - go back home, [censored] - so he needs us more than we need him at this point.

I'll keep you posted.

Love, SS

Hm... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

So what about ol' 2long? Is he just copped liver? Well, as his alter(ed) ego, I have to say OF COURSE he's chopped liver, maybe even chopped pancreas or something! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

This forum is so great for these kinds of supportive friendships to get us through. Make no mistake about that. Just be careful out there, okay?

Bret, your sitch is far more recoverable than you realize.

I again point to my own sitch: 26 months since D-day and my W now wants 2 say "no contact" by contacting RM in person! Groan! I'm doing okay, but I'm very, very tired. At least I'm talking to cerri. If there's a plan out there that's right for me, she'll help me find it.

-Qfwfq (aka 2long)

Oh yeah, and 2long. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

I have decided to go dark on him for a few days. He is the one who is lonely. OW told him the other day she has no feelings for him.

If he continues to contact her, we are going to have big problems. I am beginning to get to the stage where he is going to start having to do some work to get back in my good graces.

He can either go through this with me in a respectful, caring manner, or he can go at it alone. It is his choice.

The boys and myself are going to become very busy again, and just not have the time we did for him these past 2 weeks.

Maybe that will help him clear his head of his new fogginess.

Opinions???

SS

Whew, sorry that all is not well SS. Sorry to hear ol 2long is again battling. I dropped of our dog this afternoon and she seemed happy and indignant and is still wearing ring from OM. Still in the fog I guess. I left some rubber for her to remember me by. I'm angry again. So I'm going to go to church this evening for something better.