Oh Brett, you are making me sad. That is a wonderful thing to put up in your house.

I am a person who loves animals. When WH left his dog here and ignored her, it just broke my heart. She waited for him and watched for him everyday for months.

Finally I took her to his house and tied her to OW's car. Everyone in the family was furious with me. But they were buying his story that he came by all of the time to see her, which was a complete lie.

Now she is at his daughters, and much happier. His daughter stays and home with her baby, and now the dog at least has company, instead of sitting by herself all day. And the daughter told me she knows exactly what I was going through. WH only goes by there about once a week to see the dog.

Bret:

Though it's not about pets, some of what you described reminds me of one of my favorite movies "What Dreams May Come".

If you haven't seen it, you should.

-ol' 2long

2long - I will rent that movie. Just hope it is not too sad.

Brett - What up?

That was beautiful, Brett. I, too, believe we are reunited with our pets on the other side. I think they are all God's creatures, and go to heaven, just the way you described it, when they pass from this world.

It is hard knowing when you get a pet that they will not live as long as you. And 10-14 years seems like such a long time when they are puppies.

But, it is a cycle we are all a part of. Death and taxes, you know.

Take care. Has this changed WW's actions in any way? What is going on there? And with your FIL's health? And with your friend? Enquiring minds want to know!!!

Lots of love and support.

SS

Ohoh. I think Brett just slid down the slippery slope. We may have to form a rescue squad. Anybody got a rope?

believer:

For some reason, I like "afterlife theme" movies.

This is one of the best. Yes, it is sad, but the ending is very happy. The special effects are amazing, too.

It's quite a beautiful movie, ac2ally.

-ol' 2long

Yes, it is a very good movie. Some deep seeded meaning there about the choices we make in life.

Sorry I've been absent today. It was doggie swap day. I spent it out in the garage. I always kept the laundry room door propped open so I could look in from the garage straight up the hall to the bedroom and see "Chevy" lying on the bed. It sucked to be out in the "monster garage" and look up the hall to the empty bed. She is missed but I'm not a wreck. I was forewarned two weeks ago about the "crash" she was going to experience. We should get her ashes back this week. One box for me, one for the X. She called a couple of times since to see how I was doing since. As though I can't handle this. The rock of Gibraltar here.

The slippery slope. Hmmm. The fog. Hmmm. I approached the precipice of the slope and looked down into the abyss. I didn't lean, I didn't slide, I didn't grapple for a handhold. I made a concious decision fully aware of the consequences and I crouched, gathering all my strength from the very depths of my being. Every muscle, every sinew, every sinapse alert and poised. I then leaped with all my might. Bracing myself for impact. I've passed terminal velocity. I'm about to smash quantum physics into oblivion. Einstein is rolling in his grave. Never before has such speed been attained, nor will it ever again. Whatever awaits me will either be smashed into fragments of protons and neutrons or I'll wind up an impact crater at the bottom of the valley of self destruction.

I'll let you know at what lengths I've gone to defile my moral fiber from time to time.

Believer, are you psychic? Every time you say something about Brett and the slippery slope, he seems to confirm your suspicions!

Brett, is that what I think it is? I am not very good at reading between the lines. Are you saying what I think you are saying? Oh my.

And I noticed you referred to your WW as your X in your last post. Hm. Major changes are happening. Have you told WW?

I have so many questions. Your posts just generate more questions for me to ask!

Do tell, do tell. Lots of love and support, even if it is you slip-sliding-away down the hill. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

SS

Oh my gosh, I'm laughing so hard I spewed my coke all over the screen. Well, Brett, I'm glad you let us know what is going on. No need for search and rescue, I guess.

I'll call it "Billiards and Weiners." We went out on a saturday night to play pool and had a great time that was the 3rd of April. Something "clicked" while we played that evening.And when I dropped her off at her house,we had a good night kiss and again something clicked. Then one evening while I was talking to her on the phone we were talking about our Grandmothers and how they used to make us laugh. She was talking about hers how she would ask if they would like hot dogs to eat. Only she didn't call them hot dogs and all of her cousins and sister would giggle. She called them, and I finished her sentence for her, "weiners." Yes when I was a kid my cousins and I would giggle like mad at that also.Cute little story of our Grandmothers that was identical.

So it was something as simple as billiards and stories of Grandma's weiners. Now we've talked for hours on the phone. I've written a couple of notes for her to read. There are no secret skeletons for her to wonder about. No ugly stone unturned. All has been revealed. I've got feelings, she's got feelings. But were being cautiously optomistic. I've never been able to confide in anyone about so much before. It is really nice to be that comfortable with someone. Sound like fogtalk?

I have told her I've got issues to work through before I could ever commit to anyone. But I did tell her I'm not interested in having a string of women. I'm only interested in her. Tried to take it slower but feelings got in the way. It won't get to much faster than it is. We both work all week. She has a 6 yr old and 2 yr old to take care of. And I've got me to work on yet. So we go out once a week and talk on the phone alot the rest. I like her for her, she likes me for me. What else can I say other than I am feeling less and less afraid of a relationship with her every day. We communicate very well.

Brett-

I have posted to you so long, I feel like your mother. I know when you are up to something. But you are a good man. You can do this.

I thought you said there was no chemistry. What happened?

Wow. I will not begrudge anyone anything. I am nobody's mother, nobody's keeper. If you are happy, Brett, I am too for you.

A R built upon the firm foundation of truth and honesty is the best kind. If that is what you are doing, it is best. Also sounds like you two are becoming fast friends. Awesome.

I do feel sorry for your WW, though. The Brett train is pulling out, and she has missed it. Poor her. It has all been her choice, though, and after 3 times, me thinks she just doesn't get it.

You, on the other hand, do. Just because a R is forged in high emotion, as your's and your new friend's is, doesn't mean it is destined for disaster. Sometimes the opposite can happen.

You definately have learned a lot of good R information! Like WAT was telling someone the other day, he isn't so concerned with showing a girl his etchings. He wants to know if communication or (I can't remember exactly) cuddling is her greater EN. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

That cracked me up. We live in another world, now. Never to return to the other. And that is OK. It is a better world, I think. A lot of the confusing mysteries have been explained, now. But I also feel that I have a greater responsibility to use my knowledge to have a better M and life, since now I do know better.

Lots of love. You don't sound very foggy to me. Except you are technically still married . . .

SS

Spidey - No he is in the fog. Definately in the fog. Last week there was no chemistry and this week he is poised at the abyss and jumping.

But he is a good man, trying to be a moral man, trying to do the right thing. I agree with you that WW is the loser in this. I put my money on Brett.

Thanks for the kind words you guys. I'm happy that SS is on the high road to a wonderful life.

Believer, there wasn't chemistry. Partly cuz I was scared Sh*&less to let myself have any.The other part was timing. But then there was just something that evening of billiards, I had a hard time admitting to myself what it was. We discussed that evening as being the turning point. Where we both let ourselves enjoy each others company. I've been practicing radical honesty, and ya know what it works. She is a special gal that has had nothing but losers dump on her. The couple of notes and some of the heartfelt things I've said to her come back to me as "I've never been told that, I've never had anyone treat me like this."
Nice to be appreciated.

Yep, Idaho boy, it is very nice to be appreciated. You have been honest with both your wife and the other one. That is good.

Please keep us posted on your progress. I wish you nothing but blessings.

Had a good IC session this a.m. Told him of R with my gal. His concern is that feelings of L will gloss over my issues that I'm dealing with. I need to continue to work on those before becoming seriously involved. That friendship is very important to come first. He thinks I'm handling everything well. Just don't brush aside what I'm dealing with. I hope that I can work on the issues and get past my past in a positive way, so that I don't have unecessary baggage. I care very deeply for her, enough so that I will continue the honesty and continue to work on my issues. I'm nuts about her and feel that we are dating for all the right reasons. I don't know where we'll wind up, I'm not concerned about the outcome. Because it won't be full of hurt or lies. I just know that wherever it goes it is in the right direction. In talking about all this with her it would seem we're on the same page so to speak. I'd like to say we're "cautiously optomistic." There is so much to say on the differences in how this R has developed. I could get foggy and talk about how much better I feel. Suffice it to say that it feels healthy.

Brett -

Give yourself credit. You are a good man and have been honest with both wife and the other one. You are still going to counseling and working on your issues.

You are somewhat in the fog right now. It feels good to be with someone who cares for you, especially after such a long, dry spell. However if you care about her, you will continue to work on your issues.

It gets heavy dragging that baggage from relationship to relationship. You have not spoken about your issues here, maybe you don't feel comfortable doing so. But it might help to take the baggage and give it to the Lord. Tell him you are tired of carrying it. Then when it comes up again, give it back to the Lord again.

You are a good man and I believe you want to do the right thing. Stick with us and we will come along side you and help you.

Brett - What's going on? Busy with those jets?

Sorry busy day yesterday. Not much time to get on here in the evenings anymore either. I spend quite a bit of my evenings on the phone with my gal. We talk quite a bit. I'm going to be in the garage as much as possible the rest of the week. Going to run the hot rod down the dragstrip on sunday. Gotta get it ready...

Brett -

Glad to hear from you again. Have you heard anything else from the one you are married to?

Hang in there and keep us informed.