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"Thanks for the input on Pep. Anyone with such a since of humor is a keeper anyway. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> Just PLEASE stop me when I am sensitive. I really want to stop that. HELP!"

Hey, let's make a deal... if you ~think~ I may have insulted you
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if you ~think~ my intent is mean-spirited...

ASK ME

ASK ME

ASK ME

and if my respone is obtuse... as it sometimes is... ASK ME TO BE PLAIN AND SIMPLE <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I am actually ~very~ difficult to insult.... so don't you worry kiddo. I ~assume~ that beneath your foggy mind there exists a really wonderful woman... soon to reemerge.

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Thanks for the vote of confidence Pep. Sorry for the defensiveness.

Doubting senses,
It is so hard to admit when you have allowed yourself to be used...I mean I used him too. But when i broke it off, I expected him to at least try to chase me(forgive me if that is offensive to anyone) He just moved on. Was not all that hard.. Actually, it was my third or fourth break, so I think he was probably worn out, poor soul. This one is for real. However, it really hasn't seemed to affect him the way it has me. I feel really stupid and unlovable.

I think he finally realized I was way too tormented by the A to put up with. Anyway, I REALLY appreciate the words of encouragement. I am always ashamed to admit here (especially because of the hurt of the BSs) how much it hurts to feel rejected and to let go of the OM. Even though I finally broke it off, the walking out is day to day. I am beginning to see what a CREEP(as Pep has said) he really is. If he is a CREEP though, and I chose to like a CREEP, what does that make me? Very scary.

Thanks and it is good to know the future can be free of pining for some OM that really never should have meant a hill of beans. My H is the one who must be loved on now, with a lot of God's guidance and a few thuds in my head.

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I think he finally realized I was way too tormented by the A to put up with.

The reason YOU were tormented (and MM was not) is because YOU are NOT a creep!

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

See the difference?


Anyway, I REALLY appreciate the words of encouragement. I am always ashamed to admit here (especially because of the hurt of the BSs) how much it hurts to feel rejected and to let go of the OM. Even though I finally broke it off, the walking out is day to day.

We know. We admire all your effort and your struggle.

I am beginning to see what a CREEP(as Pep has said) he really is. If he is a CREEP though, and I chose to like a CREEP, what does that make me? Very scary.

Don't forget... Pep is ~married~ to a former creep! LOL

Try not to judge yourself right now.... later you'll have a clearer head for this sort of thing.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> and if my respone is obtuse... as it sometimes is... ASK ME TO BE PLAIN AND SIMPLE </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">little secret about Pep I figured out a long time ago...

She does this on purpose to get you to thinking. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Isn't she the best?

Susan <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />

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RAP,

Pep is as obtuse as a hammer and anvil. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Actually, what you will find is that she has NO AX to grind, you just get the straight stuff and don't worry about being a little sensitive, it happens. I have three posters mad at me right now, because they don't want to hear what I have to say or at least don't like the way I have said it. It happens, however, if you are frustrated or sensitive speak up.

This next part is hard to explain but those of us who have been here a long time Pep, WAT, Susan, K, etc, don't take these situations personally, but they are personal to you. Hence, when you think we are acting like your friends, family, spouse, scolding you because we are hurt, we are NOT hurt and actually not scolding you. Informing in firm language... maybe. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

You said a few things I thought I would add my comments to. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> This one is for real. However, it really hasn't seemed to affect him the way it has me. I feel really stupid and unlovable.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Here is an example of the "fog". You KNOW you are lovable, your H loves you. He doesn't have to and further you have hurt him far worse than you could ever hurt OM, but he loves you. Your focus inward (really just the "fog") doesn't allow you to see this yet. But, as you heal and you start to look at those around you (children, friends, H, ...) with a caring eye, you will see them looking at you with love. Yes, pain in the case of your H, and perhaps family that loves you, but love nonetheless.

Time to wake up RAP, you did a horrible thing, you hurt people deeply, and YET... you are still lovable and the person you hurt the most does love you. Very interesting don't you think??? Actually, one of the surprising things or at least surprising to the WS, that comes from an affair is the fact that they ARE loved so deeply. It is often one of the reasons for the affair, and yet they are loved. You are, we know that from the posts of your H here. Can't dodge that arrow girl, he loves you. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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Thanks and it is good to know the future can be free of pining for some OM that really never should have meant a hill of beans. My H is the one who must be loved on now, with a lot of God's guidance and a few thuds in my head. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Perhaps I am a contratarian or something but I think you need to stop and realize something. You do NOT have to love your H. You do not have to stay married to your H. The old marriage has been destroyed, biblically he can divorce you. Your H does not have to love you and he surely doesn't have to stay married to you.

He has chosen to stay with you, and he choses to love you. You see love is a verb it is NOT a feeling. You may feel love or you may not, but your wedding vows said you would love him "until death do us part". You cannot make such a vow based on feelings. You can when you realize that love is a verb and not a feeling and it is something you chose to do rather. You can show and love your H with or without the feelings, that is the vow you made.

No one is twisting your arm to get back into this marriage. Your H wants you thats for sure, but he wants you only if you really want to be there. You have decisions to make, and you have to decide if you can love him.

Obviously I and others think you can and probably do, once the fog wears off, you will see it. But this is NOT a must thing. It is about vows, and how you feel about them. It is about your willingness to rebuild this marriage. It is about what you see in the heart of the man you are married to.

You are struggling as most do with images and feelings for the OM. That is normal, but as you start to reflect on your marriage, whether or not to honor your vows, whether to keep the family together, the OM will begin to take a less and less prominent role in your mind.

You have failed in your vows, we all know this, your H knows this, all that count know this. You can be "sensitive" about this OR you can start to focus on the future and use the lessons of the past to guide you and help you.

So take your time, but you will find that most of us here are interested in your future far more than we are the details of your past.

Please think about this, and really pay attention to what Pep is telling you. She is really good at this.

God Bless,

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Dear JL,

Thank you for your post. The truth hurts, but I am glad you have the courage to speak it.

I know my H loves me, and I don't comprehend how I cannot "feel" exactly the same way back. Shouldn't go into detail, but we are touching on the choice to love and the mushy feeling of love in MC. I have been with my H since I was 18. I am 35 now. I agree with you on it being a choice to honor my vows, a verb of actions not feelings to love my H.

I miss the feeling. We are in MC and I know we are taking the right steps. I really can't believe how much he does love me. We should have fixed many things in our marriage way before now, but he loves me after all of this just the same. I want to feel it back. I REALLY WANT to feel it back. The problem with the A is, whether real or not, I experienced feelings that were there, but are not at the moment in my M. I know it doesn't matter. In the end, we have to make a choice. My husband deserves a LOT more from me than a choice. I want him to have that "wife of your youth" that he needs from me.

Sorry to ramble. Just don't want to feel or not feel the way I do. I probably am making no sense. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> Anyway, your post is one, like others, that I will read again and again to try to get it inside. thanks.

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