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WAT: sorry--I didn't make my point clear. With your bank robber analogy, I didn't say I wouldn't be a bank robber--just all the names that go along with it!!!
If I turned myself into the police afterwards and payed back the money I stole, though....
Again, the first word that comes to mind when I hear the word "rape" is violation. I still think it is too strong of a word in any situation (using the word by itself) to explain anything but that act. However, I am not in your situation, but understand to some extent your pain. I *do understand* why you used it. You, your family, your son were viloted in the worst way possible. For that I am terribly sorry, and I do not mean to diminsh your hurt.
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LINY dahhhhhhling.... I am going to be presumptious now..... ready? I am going to presume LINY wants to build a mutually faithful and delightfully fulfilling marriage that lasts as long as LINY and Mrs. L are alive. Am I right? Well then LINY, STOP SAYING that you are on the "opposite side of the fence" from anyone else who is trying to do the same here on MB. LINY, you are no longer on the "opposite side of the fence" except in your own mind. I can see you are standing on the same side of the fence as I stand. So shadup already with that "opposite side of the fence" nonsense! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> You may have entered this side of the fence from a different entrance than some of us ... but we're here now, and we are on the same freakin' team. So put on your gym shoes and your MB uniform ... coz you're on our team now, ya big lunk LINY <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> Quit standing in the corner and whining no one is passing the ball your way ... start hollerin' "ME ME pass it to ME!!!!! I want the ball !!!!!".... It's time you MADE YOUR POINTS!!!! Pep PS..... Sports analogy is not my strongest suit, how'd I do LINY? I picked it coz you're a guy <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
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YAY PEP, RAH, RAH, TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
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<<<picking up a glass, handing one to the Mrs, and toasting pep! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />
Thank you for your kind words. As FM always says, "pain is pain." It's hard to accept, though, (and I'm mainly referring to pre-EA) how much of a [censored] I really was (and can be.) And it's hard to accept the fact that my W and the majority of MB'ers have accepted me for who I am and what I can be--not what I've done. Thanks.
I think I'm at least back on track now--much to this board, and of course brownie. She--you--alot of the women on this board really are amazing. It's nice to know--instead of stuffing--that I now have two places that I can legitamately vent and show myself. (Of course, I mean, my W, and MB.)
Oh, and you did just fine with your sports analogy. I just don't want to foul out now.
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Liny, I just wanna chime in here too!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Go Liny! Take the ball and run with it!!! Cheering for you! Atruheart <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
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Pep, you said: </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> So put on your gym shoes and your MB uniform ... coz you're on our team now, ya big lunk LINY </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">So what does the MB Uniform look like? I remember that Believer had a discussion awhile back about the MB cheerleaders and their uniforms, but I haven't heard about the MB Uni's <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
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ATH: thanks for the support!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> I know I can be, well, abit pig-headed and stubborn at times, but, I know deep down 99% of all MB'ers really are pulling for everyone!!! It *IS* a good team to be on! I, too, would just love to see the uniforms. Maybe we can start a thread with some design ideas, eh? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by LINY: <strong> I'm not tryin to weird you, FM, or freak you out, but even though we are on the opposite side of the proverbial fence, we have a lot of similarities (at least I think so) and have found a connection somehow (again, at least I think so.) (Then you posted you live in MD--we lived in Balt. Cty. for a year (White marsh)--I've posted this before, but when I give the wisdom, of "Don't ever pray for patience!" It's in MD that we did--and boy, were we tested! More stories for a different time.) Anyway, I was trying to explain this to my W and she tended to agree. Then she said something that shocked me--I thought about it--and to a big extent (without some shmuck bonin' my W), I *was* a BS--when my W had the NB and completely shut down. The OM for me was depression. I did so many of the things youo did--with the same f'ing responses. You are on a completely different level of pain--and I in *no* way mean to diminsh *your* situation, but I truly understand and empathize with you. Just an observation. Anyway, I hope and pray things work out for you, my friend. For *you*, and of course your two little ones. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hey LINY! How's it going guy? The MRS? I'm doing a little better these days, no I'm doing alot better but don't want to get my hopes too high, I'm sure you understand. Yes, We are connected by more than just power lines <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> I'm rooting for you to become the LINY you always dreamt to be. At first, Baby Steps seem like they won't amount to much of anything so you get distracted for a few moments, but when you look up again; "HEY HOW'D YOU GET WAY OVER THERE KIDDO?!?! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> The word for today is BABY STEPS! I wish you and yours positive, sunny, tiny yet rewarding, determined, baby steps. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> You can't weird me our Liny, I'm already WEIRD, but in a good way. FM <small>[ August 09, 2004, 10:03 AM: Message edited by: FamilyMatters ]</small>
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FM--so glad you responded! (Just checking out some old threads only now.) And even happier to hear that your M and W has taken one giant baby step! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> OK--I'm going to thread-jack myself here! Besides offering only my support, I *can* give some advice with dealing with a S in depression. DON'T DO WHAT I DID! Looking back, yeah, I set her up with help, drove her to where she had to go, made all of the arrangements, then without saying it, said, "OK. You put me through he11 all of these years; I've set you up with what you have to take care of, now you deal with it." What a p#$%^ I was. My God, do I ask forgiveness for that. Hold her. Hold her close. Listen to her. Be with her. Be strong for her. And love her, even as you watch the evil from her past ooze out of her. It's not pretty, and I looked the other way. You, my friend, are stronger than that. You have proven that already! I didn't know what I was dealing with and instead of trying to find out (or minimally), I chose to say, "You deal with it." What a p#$%^!!!!! I don't have many regrets in life...That, was a huge one and top on my list. OK, now that I used a 2x4 on myself... Ask Brown about the A-D's Mrs FM will be on. She's been on many, and you have a legitimate question. I (we) hope and pray things are going well for you! Baby steps, right?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by LINY: <strong> FM--so glad you responded! (Just checking out some old threads only now.) And even happier to hear that your M and W has taken one giant baby step! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> OK--I'm going to thread-jack myself here! Besides offering only my support, I *can* give some advice with dealing with a S in depression. DON'T DO WHAT I DID! Looking back, yeah, I set her up with help, drove her to where she had to go, made all of the arrangements, then without saying it, said, "OK. You put me through he11 all of these years; I've set you up with what you have to take care of, now you deal with it." What a p#$%^ I was. My God, do I ask forgiveness for that. Hold her. Hold her close. Listen to her. Be with her. Be strong for her. And love her, even as you watch the evil from her past ooze out of her. It's not pretty, and I looked the other way. You, my friend, are stronger than that. You have proven that already! I didn't know what I was dealing with and instead of trying to find out (or minimally), I chose to say, "You deal with it." What a p#$%^!!!!! I don't have many regrets in life...That, was a huge one and top on my list. OK, now that I used a 2x4 on myself... Ask Brown about the A-D's Mrs FM will be on. She's been on many, and you have a legitimate question. I (we) hope and pray things are going well for you! Baby steps, right? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'm hanging in there Liny..you know me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> It's not easy being cheesey. Seriosly thought the Doctor gave her XANAX I want to clean his clock for that one. More importantly she's been so out of it, I knew she was abusing them so I took them from her this afternoon. I will be going with her to her next appointment on Thursday. MY W NEEDS ANTI-D's not SEDATIVES..&#^&^#%&%@*&#^!@%^!%$*!%@#*@#^&^# I remember the days I wanted her to talk about her feelings, the truth, the honest truth and NOW she's talking and I wish she'd STOP! OUCH! She's telling me EVERYTHING! She's telling me the intricate details of things I'd rather not know, but I want to be her best friend and she's communicating without prodding or baiting. I'm proud of being able to listen and not try and solve her challenges for her. I'm biting my lip so much I'm going to need stitches <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Thanks for the vote of confidence Liny, baby steps is right. If I've gotta hang in there so do you; YOU'RE NOT GETTING OFF THAT EASY!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
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