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Wasn't one of Heinlein's characters named something like "Jeff Foldingchair"?
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Appy -
You are not being ignored. It's all in your head.
Did you hunt and fish when you were growing up?
Hike?
Camp often?
I may have just the book for you.
As far as the names, I don't have a problem. Since ~I~ was the one reading, the names could be anything I wanted them to be.
Sure, it's hard to discuss them with others, when you do that, but it makes it easier to read.
Or, you can get the audio book and have it done for you. We did a Harry Potter audio book on our 2005 Yellowstone Park trip, and the kids would groan when we stopped for gas, (and shut off the player.) I didn't realize it could be so fun. As soon as we were on the road again, they wanted to listen.
Sure cut down on the fighting in the back seat.
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I think sometimes about all the pain in the world. I hope we can ease that here, even if only a little bit.
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I never read any of Heinlein's stuf. I wanted to read "A Stranger in a Strange Land"...that's why I asked JJ if she had. We only have one copy in our library and it is always checked out. I love books on tape! I am thinking of ordering a program on vocabulary improvement. I guess it helps to know that none of you can pronounce the names in the stuff you read. I wish I had known I was not the only one when I was growing up. Ap, I am ignoring you but I don't have you on ignore. Does that help? I can throw a Lieney's Sunset Wheat and an orange slice into the pile for you though. Okay, I am copying something from another website, written by someone else, because I really like it. There is an old Japanese story about a beligerent samurai who once challenged a zen master to explain the concept of heaven and h*ll but the zen master replied with scorn......"You're nothing but a lout, I cant waste my time with the likes of you"....His very honor attacked, the samurai flew into a rage and pulling his sword from it's scabbard and yelled...
"I could kill you for your impertinence".
"That" the monk calmly replied,"is h*ll".
Startled at seeing the truth of what the master had pointed out about the fury that had him in it's grip the bushido warrior calmed down, sheaved his sword and bowed and thanked the monk for his insight.
"And that" said the zen master "is heaven".
The sudden awakening of the bushi to his own agitated state illustrates the crucial difference between being caught up in a "feeling" and becoming aware that you are being swept away by it...
The Socrates injunction..."Know thy self" speaks to this keystone of emotional intelligence (and the control of ones own emotions)....awareness of one's own feelings as they occur,self awareness in the sense of an ongoing attention to ones internal state
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I've read SIASL. Basically, all the Heinlein books from Glory Road forward are kind of goofy. Lots of self-involved psuedo-lofty introspections and indulgences.
Not nearly as fun as the pre-Glory Road, essentially adolescent Sci-Fi novels I remember so fondly.
Speaking of adolescent Sci-Fi. Anybody ever read any Alan E. Nourse?
"Trouble on Titan" is EXCELLENT. As was "Raiders from the Rings."
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SS,
Yeah, all the time. I grew up in the middle of nowhere. Had to hike along the river 3 miles just to get to school. Sometimes rode a horse though. Hiked and camped in genuine wilderness until I moved to the big city. All four seasons camper. First time I went camping in an improved site out here I thought I was in a city park. Still can't get used to being able to see other campsites.
ed: Until recently, before I blew out a knee skiing, I climbed all the major NW peaks. Been to the top of all of them several times, except Shasta. Now I go with the Scouts (former Eagle, me) whenever I can, but I mostly help in base camp.
Weave,
Sounds like a girly beer to me. But if you say it's good I'll try it!
"Never forget that your pain means nothing to a WS." ~Mulan
"An ethical man knows it is wrong to cheat on his wife. A moral man will not actually do it." ~ Ducky
WS: They are who they are.
When an eel lunges out
And it bites off your snout
Thats a moray ~DS
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Weave,
Sounds like a girly beer to me. But if you say it's good I'll try it! It's very good! Heck, take Mrs. Ap out shopping and stop for one afterwards. They taste so good and refreshing, but probably too light and fruity to drink more of. Kind of like a light, fruity and slightly sweet wine one would have at a lunching. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Only fruity beers I like are the apricot ales. One of the UK apricot ales is really good, but I don't get hold of it very often.
Pyramid's Apricot Heffer-Weisen is pretty good, but before it was a wheat beer, it was better.
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Can you still get Moose Drool up there in the great white?
I had a Grizzly Scat on tap last night. Very nice. Definitly not fruity.
"Never forget that your pain means nothing to a WS." ~Mulan
"An ethical man knows it is wrong to cheat on his wife. A moral man will not actually do it." ~ Ducky
WS: They are who they are.
When an eel lunges out
And it bites off your snout
Thats a moray ~DS
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(didja know if you email Anne McCaffrey, she emails back!) Heh. Every darned time I see her name, I'm back on that dragon. What a wonderful way to lose four years of my life that was. Oh, and if you're looking to get lost, too, go to http://www.pern.org/. Now is a very good time to go, as you'll see if you look at the January 2007 WizMeet log. (That's like the minutes from the Board of Directors' meeting. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />) Saberhagen was never a particular draw for me, but Laumer? Man, I loved some of the Retief books! But I was always a romantic more than a scientist (something I should have learned muuuuch earlier than I did). I loved the new locales and bizarre stuff that people had to deal with, but waded through the hard science with only a great deal of effort. Once fantasy became readily available in quantities, I read much more of that than hard SF. I do still love a well-turned hard SF tale, though, which is why Bujold and Weber appeal to me.
Sunny Day, Sweeping The Clouds Away...
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You know how the Dune novels have those little quotes at the beginning of every chapter?
I've got 2 verify this before I quote it in my sigline, but in "Dune: The Battle of Corrin" by Herbert and Anderson, there's a great one that goes something like:
"The deadliest poisons cannot be analyzed in any laboratory, because they are in the mind."
Chilling, but quite true. And worth remembering.
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Can you still get Moose Drool up there in the great white? Moose Head? Yes. The guys used to go across the river (into Canada) to buy it because if was so much higher in alcohol content than the beer they could buy here. ...and the drinking age was only 19. Now of course everything is imported and there is just no fun in having to go across the river to get anything anymore. Oh, except natural health practioners whom cannot be licensed in my state, but are common in Canada. My eye doctor actually told me (I work with customs and he knows it so can't believe he told me this) that they go over to buy the meat in Canada because it is so much better and cheaper than ours and then have it relabled to bring across the border. Do you know that our meat is so bad, and so toxic that several counries prohibit it being imported into their country? Doesn't that just make you want go out for a beer and a brat? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Sickening. I am working on some imports now (or am supposed to be) so I have this on my mind. We used to even go over to get what were called "222,s" (asperin with codene) for my uncle who always had a nasty headache.
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I loved Alan E. Norse.
Some of those earlier books (by many different authors) seemed to be written purely to entertain. And they were fun to read.
I think some authors try to bend our minds a little bit - usually not as fun for me.
I liked the Retif books too. When I was young, I loved Andre Norton. Ah, memories. There are so many good books.
Appy - I know what you mean about campgrounds where you are too close to the other people. I tend to go to places where you seldom see another person, and if you do, it's far and few between. The desert pics I put up were sized, and some I brightened, but that was it. I didn't doctor them.
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I think sometimes about all the pain in the world. I hope we can ease that here, even if only a little bit.
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>And worth remembering.
As is the Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear.
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
I never had to take the Kobayashi Maru test until now. What do you think of my solution?O'hana means family, and family means nobody gets left behind or forgotten. My Story Recovered!
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No, Moose Drool. It's brewed in Montana, but the only other place I've easily found it is in BC. They seem to like it up there. http://www.bigskybrew.com/process/ourbeers.html
"Never forget that your pain means nothing to a WS." ~Mulan
"An ethical man knows it is wrong to cheat on his wife. A moral man will not actually do it." ~ Ducky
WS: They are who they are.
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Don't think I've ever tried any of those...
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While working on the Model A with my son last Friday, we explored the fact that we have similarly strange senses of humor.
I told him that my dad and my grandfather had similar senses of humor as well.
Not long after I got that Model A (I was 17 at the time), I was mixing some bondo 2 fix a dent on one of the "modern irons" (not the model A), and my dad read the label on the tube of hardener to me:
"Knead thoroughly before using."
Which prompted him 2 comment: "So, point being, if you don't really need it, don't use it!"
My son agreed. We all have similar senses of humor. He 2rnd 20 2day.
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Sense of humoUr is inherited, I'm sure. My girls have grown up in Hong Kong where Mr Bean is considered the king. Local humour here is very slapstick and childish. Most of the comedy on the 'English' channel is American (Friends, Frazier, Malcolm in the Middle') All of which we love.
But occasionally, I go wild and purchase a British DVD set such as The Office, Little Britain or The Green Wing and the girls are doubled up laughing at the weird characters and dialogue. So, naturally, they get their friends to watch these "really funny programs" when they visit and within minutes, the kids are twitching and bored because they just don't get it! I find it welly interesting.
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Moose Drool. Plenty of that here in AK. I'll add it to the IPA tour tonight Appy.
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Happy Good Friday and Happy Easter Campers! BTW, free to a good home: Stinky dog that likes to play with skunks :eyeroll: Hi Appy <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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me: FWW/BS 52 H: FWH/BS 49
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Ok, I saved it for last: youse guys has gots to read the Discworld books by Terry Pratchett/Pratchet (his name seems to gain or lose a t every few books).
Funniest dang stories I have ever read. Times were in the past few years when reading these books was the only time I laughed.
High FF! I'd love to take your doggy. Plenty of lonely skonks around here he can pal around with. I'm just too far away.
ed: Spelling. Too many were correct.
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