Okay, I WOULD NOT be opposed to a Georiga, Gimble, AD fly-fishing trip. What about it Gimble, are you up to it? I don't know where you are, but sounds like AD and I are within easy travel distance.

However, SS will not be permitted due to that lame joke <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> .

Hummm....a fly-fishing trip exclusively for BS's (and FWS"s so we can include FYR) sponsored by MB. That might have some possibilities.

Mimi - My current audio system is just one of those bookshelf CD systems. My video system is my laptop with a monitor. (I've been watching some "24" DVD's). As you may recall, I'm not much of a TV watcher, don't even have one right now. I do need to get my internet hooked up, I've not done that yet.

Also, I read Caren's thread. Sounds to me EXACTLY like WW showed up at her house masquerading as her WH. They must be reading from the same book. Okay, maybe I'm leaning towards the "fog" theory again.

Georgia

<small>[ February 17, 2005, 12:18 PM: Message edited by: Formerly G.G. ]</small>

Yeah... SS would probably bring a can of WD-40 with him! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

-ol' 2long

Sorry, Guys:

No fishing for me. I am such a GODDESS, PRIMA DONNA! How do you go to the "ladies' room" on fishing trips? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

On the WS issue, I'm glad that you read Caren's thread. Why do we all want to think that our spouses are so special? It's all the same script. I think we are all in the same play. Maybe we are in a TWILIGHT ZONE episode.

How about trying something new, Georgia? It might be fun to get a new TV? Not for TV shows necessarily but for DVD viewing.....

Sounds good about the NC with everyone else concerned. I'm glad you've at least touched base with brother so he has at least another side to consider. Being that he is the only one she is listening to, he has a great deal of leverage in this. Trust that God is working through him. As a MC, he does NOT want to see a M break up, no matter what she says. But he also can't come down hard on her all the time or she will be alienated from him also. Do not beleive what her hear her quote other people saying. WS hear what they want to hear and twist words around to justify their A any way they can.

The fact she was feeling "the pits" after taking the HRT was a hopeful sign to me. I took it to mean that maybe the fog is clearing a bit and she is feeling terrible sadness and remorse for the things she is doing.

Things have to progress the way they are progressing. You have to do what you feel is best right now. You are getting some great advice and keeping yourself healthy in mind, body, and spirit. This strength will serve you for the D or the recovery.

I admire the decisions you are making. I know you've only been on here a relatively short time, but you have been dealing with MULTIPLE infidelities for MANY years. This won't fix itself, but you are giving your M the best environment to recover right now, by removing yourself and not being a part of the drama and changes that have to occur with your WS.

She may never realize those changes, and that is where D comes in, or she may realize those changes and begin them.

So, think about the different scenarios (as if you haven't already)...D or she agrees to NC and what you would need to have happen to move back in...that is a tough one...don't want move back in too soon.

But she is following the WS script, which is...

Making the M out to be far worse than it is ("I was always miserable...")

Blaming the BS for the A's ("You drove me to it...")

"I am happy" (Although they are near broke in health, spirit, and money)

"If you come back we can talk about NC" (what they really mean is "If you come back I'll work out a way where I can convince you to put up with the situation again")

"The OP is not the reason I have lost faith in my M" (Yeah, right, and having a side honey keeps your mind focused on the M?)

Am I leaving any out?

<small>[ February 17, 2005, 12:50 PM: Message edited by: StillHereMakingIt ]</small>

Prima Donna - You ever seen that show "The Simple Life"? I've not seen it, read about it in Newsweek. I was thinking of that the other day when I was driving home to the 'hood. You know, I think I will NEVER be comfortable going back to the "higher" standard of living that I did have. I know that is odd, but I feel more like "me" where I am now. Strange, huh? (Okay, I confess. I was also thinking about you with fish slime on your hands, asking for the "ladies' room").

TV, eh? I have thought about getting a TV, I miss watching the news and things like the History / Discovery channels. I may have to consider that, things do get a bit quiet and boring. Especially with no dog. (Still thinking about that, too.) I've kinda given up the idea of "dognapping" as it would just provoke unneeded confrontation.

Georgia

Hey everyone,

I laughed when I saw the fly fishing topic...my FBH (is that an official MB acronym...is there any such thing as a FORMER betrayed spouse?) is an avid fly fisherman.

If y'all can just dunk his head in the river while he is there....um...ok..never mind about the head dunking. I think Mimi and I would have to um....do something else while y'all are hurling those lines at the wee fishies in an attempt to slap them to death (this is what it looks like to outside observers). FGG - I appreciate you including me on the trip though!!

FGG - in regards to your resolve to avoid contact with WW, does this include reading/responding to emails? Just a question...and I hope your answer is yes.

Best Regards,

FYR

SHMI -

Yes, the one I currently have available to me:

"Come back and we can all still be friends. Why can't he live upstatirs?".

Georgia

My FWH once said to me, "Why CAN'T I have a Wife and a Girlfriend?"

I just turned around and walked away after that one...

I could have been a real smart aleck and said, "But you do, but not for long..."

I mentioned it to him once about a year ago, and he said, "I know, I can't beleive I said that."


I guess you could answer her question with..."What? Are you talking with the Jerry Springer folks and hoping that situation will make things more exciting for you when you appear on the show? I hope you pull up your shirt like all the other OWs."

But no, we hold our tongues and keep our sarcasm to ourselves...or better yet, share it here!

One other thing I wanted to post to you FGG - I stole it from Mortarman's post on Caren's thread:

Originally posted by Mortarman -
Never, ever have the discussion with the WS until they have shown to third party or expressed in some other way that they are willing to meet the terms of the PBL. In my PBL, I actually told my wife that she if she decided to get rid of OM and wanted to work on the marriage, that she was to leave a message on my voicemail that she was agreeing to my letter. That way, if she called and left a message saying "can we talk?" the answer was always NO because I knew she wasnt agreeing to the PBL yet.

(((FGG)))

Regards,

FYR

Yes,

Share it all here - we need all the lighthearted entertainment we can get!! I'm lucky I think in that my husband didn't say many stupid foggy things; but the OW SHEESH!!!

She would call and leave messages for my husband after NC letter was sent; asking him to call her because she was worried about me and our boys!!

Oh, yeah - she missed him too "as a friend"!

FGG:

You probably haven't been around long enough 2 remember my W's "clone coment" made 2 me about 2.5 years ago (brought on by a Farscape episode where the main character was cloned).

She said "that way I could be in two places at once - with you AND 'there'".

ol' 2long: "You mean with RM, right?"

W: "Isn't it obvious?"

ol' 2long: "It wouldn't work, you know. You'd just 2ble your troubles, because BOTH of you would still want 2 be in 2 places at once."

She still doesn't get it, because she made the same remark just this past weekend (but didn't mention RM, ...but she didn't that time, either).

Like the bible story, I think the real answer is 2 cut the WS in half. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

-ol' 2long

I'm enjoying our conversation today! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> Hopefully we are helping Georgia feel lighthearted.

I'm reminded from MORTARMAN's post, brought over by FYR:

My mantra was GET RID OF THE OW! I was supposed to repeat that back to him everytime he contacted me during my "MODIFIED PLAN B" time period.

Also, check this out CSUE:

I remember my H being impressed that the OW would tell him that she was worried about our YS and encourage my H to call him. What was that all about? If she was so worried about our son, why was she encouraging his F to abandon him for her. I'm sure she knew that a 17yo would certainly not embrace her as his F's GF. YUK!!!!!

2Long -

For some of your previous comments, you sure have a lot of knowledge of Bible stories. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Join us on the fishing trip?

Georgia

Mimi (P.D.G.) -

Yes, it is kinda nice to be a little lighter today. For a guy who is always pretty much on an even keel w/o extreme emotions, seems like I'm often all over the place.

But...it's nice to converse with friends today (while on another long teleconference).

Georgia

edit to add - In regard to FYR's question, I don't intend to respond to WW in ANY way unless it is "I am ready to terminate my R with OM".

I really, really do not expect that to happen. I know that you all(including the Prima Donna) might think otherwise, but that's my opinion.

(Extra added thought: Can you picture J.Lo in waders?)

<small>[ February 17, 2005, 01:56 PM: Message edited by: Formerly G.G. ]</small>

GG,

OK three BS's on the river. Sounds good. I'll just wait for an email from the master fisherman.

Just for you GG, I'll divulge my location. <somewhere edited away> directly in line.

-AD

<small>[ February 18, 2005, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: AD ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Formerly G.G.:
<strong> Okay, I WOULD NOT be opposed to a Georiga, Gimble, AD fly-fishing trip. What about it Gimble, are you up to it? I don't know where you are, but sounds like AD and I are within easy travel distance.

However, SS will not be permitted due to that lame joke <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> .

Hummm....a fly-fishing trip exclusively for BS's (and FWS"s so we can include FYR) sponsored by MB. That might have some possibilities. ....

Georgia </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Sounds good to me, but my business has me trapped (some would say in hell, but I digress) until July or August.

I am only a state away, and I probably have enough gear for everyone, although that many flyrods in one boat might be cause for concern - have you ever seen a fishhook in a man's ear? :-)

Oh, and Mimi - in the bucket and over the side if you are a girl. In this case, the guys have it easier, as long as the wind is not blowing in the wrong direction.

Gimble

Ok. I admit to P.D.Gism.....

True Confessions-AKA Honesty and Openness: I don't even like to go to Public Restrooms. A bucket is totally out of the question. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by AD:
<strong> GG,

OK three BS's on the river. Sounds good. I'll just wait for an email from the master fisherman.

Just for you GG, I'll divulge my location. Since you are an aviation guy, I'll just say that my office is about 30 seconds flying time from the W runway at (somewhere) - directly in line.

-AD </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I am a pilot and only about 25 minutes flying time from (somewhere).

Do I detect a plan brewing?

Gimble

<small>[ February 17, 2005, 10:09 PM: Message edited by: Gimble ]</small>

Mimi,

That's pretty funny about your husband being impressed with OW's concern for your son.

My husband was being sooooo very good at openness and honesty at that point that I actually got to listen to OWs message expressing her concern about me and the boys...

Yuck - she even mentioned me and both boys by name.........dripping with genuine concern, she was tearful at the end saying she missed H as a friend.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Gimble:
<strong> Do I detect a plan brewing?

Gimble </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Brew away!

(oh, and could I ask you a small favor? - to edit your post where you quoted my location. I probably will edit that out of my post soon. Tnx. )

-AD