Interesting, H taped the show for me today, said he watched a bit of it (to make sure it taped), said he thought Momof3boys and Dadof3boys were actors.

Ok, fess up, are you guys actors?

What can I tell him to convince him otherwise...

And what does that tell me about H????

He thinks our situation was unique and no one else has had to experience infidelity in their M?

No, I don't think they are actors. Their pictures are posted on the MB photo thread and it's the same couple.

I can hardly comment on the show... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> Mom is trying to hang on to her marriage and Dad is rolling his eyes and smirking. He even made a joke about taking one for all "the guys out there".

He seemd to think that he was in a fraternity or a little club of cheaters and that the audience was going to laugh with him. I think most of the audience looked like they wanted to beat the s&** out of him!

NO accountability or remorse in my opinion. Dr. Phil had some excellent advice, I have serious doubts that Dad was taking it in al all though. He seemed to be in another world reveling in himself. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

I am SO BUMMED that I missed the show. Is it on every Thursday?

That's what I got from the responses on here after the last show from Mom and Dad (and after the second taping).

Like an addict, sometimes it takes a good hard look at the bottom, the consequences, before a WS "wakes up". That's sometimes why a M has to experience Plan B.

Shortly after D-day a wise person told me, "Many people regret a D years later."

They R not actors... we met them when they came to an mb seminar in our area earlier this year.

Sad that this is real isn't it? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> Happens waaay too often.

Most WS' think they are unique. Reality says just the opposite. Hard to imagine there are that many smart people making such stupid choices and hurting so many innocent persons. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

L.

Is the show on every Thursday? Sorry to be so repeditive but I am so bummed I missed it.

I haven't seen it yet either, but I read the blurbs on Dr.Phil's website. He mentions *maybe* they will be on again...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Love comes first:
<strong> Is the show on every Thursday? Sorry to be so repeditive but I am so bummed I missed it. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I believe that every Thurs. is going to be Dr. Phil dealing with Momto3boys and Dadto3boys situation. Assuming they continue to go. I know from watching that mom will continue, but by dad's comments and reactions ya kinda wonder if he will return. Mom even said on todays episode that dad didn't want to show up for it.

I will be surprised if they come on the show again. Dad seemed smug about his recent contact with the OW and even admitted that he brought her to sleep in Mom's bed whilde she was visiting her dying father.

He is concerned about the OC being an obstacle in their recovery. No S@#*! she will be an obstacle. As long as Dad says he still has feelings and a strong connection with the OW AND continues to see her at work, he has made NO EFFORT at recovery! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

I felt that Dr. Phil's last comment to them was a veiled admission that he thought that they would end up divorced.

My concern is that they say that prior to the affair, they almost never had SF. Dad admits that he had checked out of the marriage and that he was intending to get divorced thus he did not see the affair as a big deal. If the problems that led to that condition have not even been addressed, how do they think that they can deal with the affair, the OC and get back to normalcy?

This is a very sad situation, Mom is trying to make the bast of it for her sons, but in reality I think that she needs to look at the possibility of moving on and rebuilding her life. She deserves much better.

Dad made a fool of himself. OW made a fool of herself. Mom got a laugh. I think OW is almost 30 and she still lives at home with momma. Mom deserves so much better. Even Dr. Phil was dumb founded at some of Dad's bizarre comments.

The other women was on the show today!!! I am so wishing that I saw it. I am calling all my friends, so far no one recorded it... what else happened?

The OW was not on the show. However, she called and spoke to a staff member who read the context of the phone messages.

As a guy, I must say Dad doesn't speak for me. What a jerk. He might be a doctor, but he has no smarts.

Mom should kick him out. No marriage is worth that abuse.

Lemonman, where are you?

I agree, until I saw Dad on the show I backed Mom's recovery attempts but now I think she needs to end the bull@$&*!

Dad's words, actions and body language all showed that he is selfish and has not put Mom or his marriage first. He and the OW probably deserve each other.

This is so very sad. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

One more thing, when Dad told Mom that the OW was better in bed than she was IN FRONT OF THE KIDS I knew that he did not deserve her. It made me sick to see that a man would put his children through that kind or trauma to fulfill his own sexual desires! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

OK, I'm not going to comment any more on this one, I don't want to hurt Mom and I have nothing productive to say that has not already been said ad nauseum.

please please please...
all..

no disrepectful names...etc...

it bodes no one well....

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> ark

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> As a guy, I must say Dad doesn't speak for me</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Sadly my H felt the same way, as a FWS, he was a little insulted.

The humor...it's just not funny.

The Dr. Phil episodes have done great work for my own M, and our own recovery process. We just talked tonight about it, and we both realize how much work we've done over the last 8 months. It hasn't been an easy haul on either of us, and we're both 100% committed to this.

I just wish there was a way I could effectively convey this to M23 and D23. The hard work hasn't even begun yet, and they still can't get to step one.

Mom deserves some type of reward for stamina.

I know she's not posting, because of her dad's illness and all, but I think the fact she has removed the drama from the board speaks volumes of her true intentions.

She isn't a hollywood queen, she's just a woman, loving her family, fighting with all she's got. Even if we don't agree with her decisions, we should support her either way.

"Who wants to come here with a target hanging around their neck? To all the guys out there, I'm taking it for you," says WH.

Later, he says of momto3boys...

"She came with her A game today."

He makes me sad. He isn't sorry. He's upset because he's in a situation where he "can't win", and he can't see that he is its architect.

GC

does anyone know how recent that show was taped. It could be an older tapeing- and D23boys could be making strides towards recovery. Mom is hanging in there. She must see something that he refuses to show the rest of the world. He cares enough about her to show up and broadcast his life for all to see. That takes a lot and deserves some credit. Mom23boys is amazing, however I wonder how her self esteem is, I wonder if she put her foot down and laid out boundaries how long before Dadto3boys would fall into line. Just a thought of mine.

LCF,
The show was taped last week <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

well that is a bummer then. Dadto3boys, please make a decision, this fence sitting you are doing is not doing anyone any good. Think of your children. Think of your wife. You know if you think things are going to be so good for you with OP- go, it will most likely bite you in the butt and you will possible regret your choice the rest of your life. Statistics do not lie. Yeah sure the OP is new and exciting, of course the SF will be better at first, the haze will soon clear and you will have lost everything, is she really worth it? You will be giving up one heck of a beautiful, careing, loving, wonderfull, forgiving wife, and for what? It will be your loss in the end, some other man will snatch her up in a heartbeat, and he will have it all and you will be looking from the outside in while writing check after check.