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#1244558 01/17/05 10:19 AM
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Things seem to be getting out of hand here. Are you receiving any MC?

#1244559 01/17/05 09:29 PM
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UPDATE:

I'm Tired and out of Juice, I have little faith that I can pull this off... My love bank is just about depleted. She has backed off and agreed to play nicer but I feel like it's a false hope. I have an Appt with my Attorney tomorrow, wish me luck

Tired, Angry, Upset, Hurt, Betrayed, Lost, Lonely, Confussed....


These are the words that describe my past week with WW...I just wish my wife would appear for at least an hour...even ten minutes.

#1244560 01/17/05 11:27 PM
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MS,

Got to speak to your W over yahoo, thought it was you when I i/med. Conversation was very interesting. Let me know if she didn't fill you in.

Love in Christ,
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#1244561 01/17/05 11:33 PM
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Standing Together,

She never told me anything... At least now I know she has my pass for my PC....

#1244562 01/18/05 09:16 AM
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Update:

Is it possible for a ww to be on day 57 of No Contact and still be in the fog?

Today she was so nice to me I almost felt sick....

#1244563 01/18/05 10:00 AM
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She was coerced into NC. That's a problem, I reckon.

Michael, you're counting the days, thinking you're going to cross some magic number and your W will just come out of it.

I think your W could use some psychological help. Not that she's crazy, but she's clearly confused and unpredictable.

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#1244564 01/18/05 07:17 PM
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GREYCLOUD:

I know i'm counting the Day's and it does drive me crazy at times. I'm trying to make me the best Mike ever but her attacks and moods make it so hard. I wish I could just faze her out but she makes it so hard...

#1244565 01/19/05 10:56 PM
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GC,

I think you're right. This woman's issues go very deep. I had the chance to speak w/her the other night when I mistakenly thought she was Michael. We had a brief conversation, but in that conversation, she admitted that she's at the point that she doesn't care what happens to her M, her house, or her children. Doesn't sound like a typical mother that loves her children above anything else. Usually when a S gives up on a M, they at least care what happens to their children, even if the thoughts are a little twisted. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

These WS's never seem to cease to amaze me sometimes. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Michael,

Is she still being nice to you?

Love in Christ,
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#1244566 01/20/05 01:33 AM
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Yes.....Things are not going well though...She told me that she hopes I lose the house because then we will lose the kids. She has the money to help me save the house but won't. She see's the kids being taken away as a way to set herself free...Twisted or what..

I called the police to have her removed from the home and they can't make her leave because she owns part of the house, she just laughed at me and walked away..

CPS made it very clear that if we lose the house that they will be taking the kids...WW does not seem to care and if she does she is hiding it well...the deadline on the mortgage is Monday...

I asked her if she would at least lend me the $500.00 i'm short and she laughed and told me it was for her and OM....She has over 3k in her account....I even got on my knees and begged for the kids.....She told me that because of me OM and her are over and so now she is going to destroy me and thats by watching me lose the kids, she told me she hopes after this I kill myself...

My attorney has informed me that CPS has the right to take the children because of the agreement I had with them...

LIFE SUCKS

#1244567 01/20/05 01:40 AM
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Michael, this is bad, bad, bad. She's hurting you too much.

She needs to see a doctor, and I think you may need to get her away from you.

What do you think?

GC

#1244568 01/20/05 01:41 AM
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I don't know anything about it, but... the word bipolar comes to mind.

She needs help. She's losing her sh*t.

GC

#1244569 01/20/05 01:56 AM
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Michael,

Have you thought about taping these very disturbing conversations that you and your WW are having. This does sound very scary, of course the tapes won't do anything for you legally I think, but they would prove something to CPS and the police.

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#1244570 01/20/05 09:47 AM
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I have tried everything to get her out of the house and as long as she is part owner of the house. The officer told me is she were to leave she could come back and even break a window to get in and there is nothing I can do.

If I go to CPS they will take the kids even sooner. I have till Tuesday at the latest to make this payment to the bank or they will go forward with taking the house.

I tried talking to ww again last night about helping me save the house and she pretty much told me to go screw myself.

The OM was contacted and he has made it clear that he wants nothing to do with ww and that it has been two months since he last spoke with her and even longer since he has seen her.

I of course was well aware of this but just wanted to know if her still had an interest in my ww. He told me he was sorry and that she had made matters look worse then what he has found out.

ww told me that losing the children will set her free once and for all..I told ww losing the children is just plain wrong and that she is not only hurting me but them. She told mje it's payback time..I walked away.

It looks like I am going to lose my children because of her and losing the house. I have tried everything. My hands are tied at this point. I have begged her, and no joke even got on my knees and all she does is laugh.

If I lose the kids I lose myself.....

#1244571 01/20/05 10:10 AM
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Michael, getting into foreclosure does not make you an unfit parent. Why would CPS take your children away over the house? It makes no sense.

GC

#1244572 01/20/05 10:21 AM
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GreyCloud,

Child Protective Services through there investigation of ww has noticed a problem with my being able to keep a job and feel if we lose our residence that we will be unable to provide for the children and feel they will be better off in foster care until we get our crap together.

I'm still with the same company but because of my demotion I am not making close to what my worth is and am unable to make the bills. I have an interview with a company on the 27th that would put me back where I need to be. My IC feels my biggest problem is that I have let my fears of losing ww interfere with my growth as a person.

CPS feels that losing a home while going through these issues will only cause the children further harm. I made an agreement with CPS that I would work my tail off and keep up on the bills so that I can retain the children, But I have not been able to keep my promises because of my demotion. WW finds all of this funny and told me that I should just take my life and save all of them the trouble..


Talk about hopeless...

#1244573 01/20/05 10:34 AM
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Michael,

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard! Children are always better off with their parents unless there is abuse! Even in a homeless shelter if they are loved, feed and clean would they be better off with you. WTH?? I see the courts reunite families that the children end up dead because of abuse and they threaten you because you might go bankrupt or something? Michael, IMHO, those are idle threats. But if it gets your mind off your WW and on to personal growth then ok, but don't let them bully you. Sheesh, ok nuf of my rant. Hugs to you Michael, you are going to be ok.

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Michael, I think something more than WS fog may be the matter with your wife (though that, or really any kind of falling in love, should be classified a mental illness too).

She swings from being lovey-dovey to inviting you to kill yourself and talking about wanting to lose her children. She has been violent. I think she's off her rocker.

GC

#1244575 01/20/05 06:29 PM
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Michael,

I have been trying all day to come up with something helpful in light of these recent events and I just don't seem to have anything. I believe that I completely underestimated the seriousness of your sitch previously. For that I apologize.

The only thing that occurs to me is that she seems unable or unwilling to let go of her rage against you, almost like she is addicted to the rage rather than an OM.

Somehow you've got to detach from her until she comes to her senses. Protect your kids and yourself. I don't care what you did in the past, no one deserves to be subjected to the type of venom that seems to be spewing from her at this point.

#1244576 01/23/05 07:23 PM
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It's official... Wednesday I have to meet with CPS to find out what will happen with the children. I have not been around the last couple days because I have been trying to find a way to save the house so that I can keep the kids.

WW is in the process of moving out.. She has informed me that she is glad this is all happening...

I'm so upset its not even funny and I am scared...I just don't have any answer's at this time...I'm so pi**ed and so F******* mad at her and the OM..

If they take my kids I swear on my kids..

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Michael, do you have family that can either take the kids temporarily or take all of you in if you lose the house? Do you have legal aid or someone in law that can help you? I cannot see CPS taking kids away from a loving parent simply because of finances. What can we do to help? This is a serious question.

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