Ohhhh, so you mean you are human! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Glad to see you posting! Glad to see you taking action!

Just plain glad to see you! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

No more 2X4's from me Frank. I have faith that you are taking control of the sitch and are being the best dad and person you can be.

Listen carefully to Ark's words though. She is one smart lady!

OK Frank,
This is what I have been waiting for you to do. Continue to post and discuss options and your feelings.

No one here has "the" answer, only opinions. When I give advice to seek counsel, I'm not telling you whether or not it's time for divorce, only you can make that decision. What I was hoping for was that you would ask questions and then come back and give us some answers after reading the responses.

We CARE about you Frank, which is the only reason that so many have continued to post and try to get you to respond.

Do what you have to do Frank, but realize that your DD is looking at you to be her safe place, the stability in her life. She is your priority now, do your best for her and you will have no regrets.

Ohhhhhh, I love ark.....very much and I do listen to everything I hear.......After my talk with WW I have noticed a difference in her......she is still scared of OM but is being nicer to me...I know that my WW knows that she srewed up real bad.....Yesterday morning I and meagan was heading to my job.....( she was my helper)....when WW called ...I told her that I could not get the insurance for her but there was other options.....she could go to welfare for low cost insurance....I asked her if she wanted to use meagans doctor...she said yes....I told her that I would pay for her first visit if she needed me to.....just send me the bill...I told her that I would even take her.....( I knew she would say no)....But I was the better man for asking...I can't believe this man does not even care that she has not seen a doctor.....well I hung up ....a couple minutes later I realized it was my mothers birthday so I called back to tell her and she said she already sent mom a card but would call.....I could tell that WW was just crying when she answered the phone.....I think she is doing alot of thinking........I will pray for her......I will sit back and watch now......ww did call my mother yesterday and mom thanked her...she told mom that she was on the pill and got pregnant...???????.......she said that her and OM are looking for a bigger place...( neighbors all dislike OM ) fresh start......that they are getting married next year when divorce is final....God bless her....what a mess ....Mom told her before they hung up that if she needed anything at all don't be affraid to call.....anything.......

Ohhhhhh, I love ark.....very much and I do listen to everything I hear.......After my talk with WW I have noticed a difference in her......she is still scared of OM but is being nicer to me...I know that my WW knows that she srewed up real bad.....Yesterday morning I and meagan was heading to my job.....( she was my helper)....when WW called ...I told her that I could not get the insurance for her but there was other options.....she could go to welfare for low cost insurance....I asked her if she wanted to use meagans doctor...she said yes....I told her that I would pay for her first visit if she needed me to.....just send me the bill...I told her that I would even take her.....( I knew she would say no)....But I was the better man for asking...I can't believe this man does not even care that she has not seen a doctor.....well I hung up ....a couple minutes later I realized it was my mothers birthday so I called back to tell her and she said she already sent mom a card but would call.....I could tell that WW was just crying when she answered the phone.....I think she is doing alot of thinking........I will pray for her......I will sit back and watch now......ww did call my mother yesterday and mom thanked her...she told mom that she was on the pill and got pregnant...???????.......she said that her and OM are looking for a bigger place...( neighbors all dislike OM ) fresh start......that they are getting married next year when divorce is final....God bless her....what a mess ....Mom told her before they hung up that if she needed anything at all don't be affraid to call.....anything.......

I like your mom. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

<small>[ December 30, 2004, 05:00 AM: Message edited by: weaver ]</small>

frank
its great to hear for YOU that you are taking charge of what you can and fighting for your Meagan...thats all anyone wanted or could ask you to do.

Its tough it sucks and I wish we all had more than words to help you.

Do the best you can thats all you can do. And there is NOTHING wrong holding onto hope...nothing at all, just dont let it take away commonsense while this rubbish is going on.

JMO but I have to wonder if your WW wouldn't be on your doorstep if not for being Pregnant.. she isn't happy obviously & is comparing OM to you. Guess who looks coming up short. not YOU..
but now... who knows what she is thinking.
God bless mate.

(I wonder what me priest would say if I prayed for all the OM's to throw out all the WW's for a late Xmas present & all the OW's to do the same for WH's for New Years.. excluding those who aren't wanted back of course......)

Frank,

If possible, could you do a recap list of the items of concern you have regarding your WS interaction with you and your children? Megan s/b a especially noted.

List all the instances you have mentioned over this post. I think the reason why law enforcement and other agencies are not jumping up and down as much as we are is that they are not seeing or reading as much as we are.

You bring out your story in pieces. What may be normal for you c/b a red flag for the police. They won't know if you don't tell them.

For that reason, I think a list will help. It will put it all in one place for all to see and let them decide if the WS and OM have crossed the line and put Megan in jeporady.

JMHO,
L.

I have great admiration for what frankd has accomplished thus far...he has come a long long way ....

I do think you should decrease your contact with wifey...
and make make make sure you do nothing that they can use against...

let them use normal contact and interaction with you and her against you...cause it will help prove how riduculous they are ....

praying ya thru Frankd.....

ARK

Well I dropped off meagan at om's at 930am I sent down a 6 page letter that i wrote x-mas eve...It was mostly the same things we talked about on the phone except some stuff i forgot to mention.....Meagan said she was mad then she read the letter and cryed , she did not through it away DD said.....I don't think she will show OM either........Mom got birthday card from WW today in the mail....She said it was pretty It said to mother on her birthday ....Inside.......Is said You are the most wonderful mom in the world....She underlined Wonderful...and wrote i love you and i miss you....WW.........she did not put his name............go figure........I think she is doing alot of thinking.....

Happy New Years to everyone and May 2005 get better and it will I just feel it.......Frankd and Meagan.