Being proud of you and wanting other men to slobber all over you are two COMPLETELY different things.

Jen

Ditto, kiwi. "Flaunting" was the word I was going to use.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by almostmarried:
<strong> I know what TA means... I am in his wife's position and I like to know that my fiancee is proud of me. If he stopped... I would be hurt...

I spend a good chunk of time and money looking good and it is important to BOTH of us that I do.

TA, I think it is nice that you think so much of her wife.

One other thing that is very important in our relationship is that we don't talk down about each other to anyone... not our parents, friends... no one. It is important to me that other ppl don't feel bad for his problems if we are having any. I like when he talks to me that he speaks in a very positive way... some men don't... and I end up pitying their wives. I don't want to be one of those wives... that's just a thought <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Thank You. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

My wife likes when I show her off. She works out 7 days a week, eats healthy, doesn't smoke, do drugs, drinks socially, spends a lot of time and money shopping for clothes and making herself look beautiful for me.

One of the things she said to me after D-Day was that "you quit showing me off." I said "no I didn't," then she replied "you don't show it in your words or actions." <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

NOT TRUE, must have been FOG talk.

I said it before and I'll say it again, my wife will be 46 next month and 99% of all college girls would die to have her body. In addition she is more beautiful than 99% of all women, so why not show her off. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" />

I posted her pic here two weeks ago. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

BTW, I gave her the necklace/braclet with just a Hallmark card. She wore it the next day to the Christmas party and all the women there told her how beautiful it was. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

She didn't like when other people told her how beautiful the jewelry was in front of me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

<small>[ December 27, 2004, 01:25 PM: Message edited by: TA ]</small>

TA, I'm trying to wrap my brain around this.

Anyway, sorry, but I don't know how to see the pics. At any rate, I doubt seeing your W would help me to understand your thinking here.

PM

btw, did she wear your neclace?
PM

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by papermom:
<strong> TA, I'm trying to wrap my brain around this.

Anyway, sorry, but I don't know how to see the pics. At any rate, I doubt seeing your W would help me to understand your thinking here.

PM </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'll be very honest here.

80%+ of all women do not look that good. They get overweight, don't workout, stop dressing nice, coloring their hair, manicures, etc...
and in general are NOT attractive.

Anyone who disagrees with me is not a Male. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" />

How many men HONESTLY show off their wife, be honest. Most don't.

If my wife looks smoking hot then why not show her off, she's earned it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by TA:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by papermom:
<strong> TA, I'm trying to wrap my brain around this.

Anyway, sorry, but I don't know how to see the pics. At any rate, I doubt seeing your W would help me to understand your thinking here.

PM </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'll be very honest here.

80%+ of all women do not look that good. They get overweight, don't workout, stop dressing nice, coloring their hair, manicures, etc...
and in general are NOT attractive.

Anyone who disagrees with me is not a Male. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" />

How many men HONESTLY show off their wife, be honest. Most don't.

If my wife looks smoking hot then why not show her off, she's earned it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It is true. Most women don't look as good as they could try to but not all women will understand that!!!

To some, TA, you will sound like you are using your wife to show off. But, I know how it is... I love going to parties with my fiancee and being shown off. I do have a brain though, I can socialize with his collegues, friends and I know that they envy him a little for it. That makes him feel good, so why not!

So, tell us! Did she wear your jewelry?
I hope so!
PM

P.S. Your post doesn't help. I still don't get it; in fact, I get it even less now. But, I'm not a male. Maybe that's the reason I'm clueless. I'm wondering, though. . . what if she gained weight or stopped coloring her hair, etc. Could you still love her the same?

Wow! I stumbled upon this thread and just couldn't believe my eyes!!!!! All this talk about "showing off" your wife?? Sickening! I could totally relate to feeling good about keeping yourself healthy. The fact that she looks good is an added benefit to BEING healthy.

The fact that you're dying to "show her off" like she's some showdog, is just so insecure! Most men I knew who did that (i.e.: "Doesn't my wife look gorgeous?") were very insecure and they ended up getting divorced. Their emotions weren't real. If you think your wife looks great, tell her. No one else needs to notice!

And btw, you seem to place such importance on her looks. What if (God forbid) she got into an accident and became a paraplegic? What if she lost her "beautiful bod" and face? Would you still love her? That's true love!!!!! I've gained (and then lost) 50 pounds since I had my children and my H didn't love me any less. Of course he DID seem to have a renewed interest in me after I lost the weight and got into good shape, but it's just because it was something new. And, I DID IT FOR ME! Your wife probably looks good and takes care of herself FOR HER! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

CC

TA, I actually saw the picture before you deleted it and was very surprised to see a woman who gave the impression of being a NICE person, someone I'd be friends with, you know? There was a sadness in her eyes that struck me and it makes it all the more wierd that you are painting a blonde bombshell picture of her.

A beautiful woman does not need a man to "strut" or pull PDAs (public displays of affection) to "make" men notice her, that happens all by itself, trust me. There is such a thing as trying too hard, TA.

You appear to be the type of person who is always *performing* for an audience and this is just one more example. Unfortunately in this case, you are using another human being as a prop and it not surprising that your poor wife is unhappy with you. A woman who is secure in her husband's appreciation of her in ALL areas is not going to be asking or even needing to be "shown off" to other men, sorry. Think on this.

“””I'll be very honest here.

80%+ of all women do not look that good.”””

They don’t look “that good” to who? And what does that have to do with being honest?

“””They get overweight, don't workout, stop dressing nice, coloring their hair, manicures, etc...”””

Where is the “throw up” icon when you need it? So are you implying that in order for a woman to be attractive she must have time to be totally toned, have an expensive wardrobe, have fake hair, have fake nails, ahhhh c’mon TA what about fake boobs, how can a woman be attractive without those?

”””and in general are NOT attractive.”””

Compared to what?

”””Anyone who disagrees with me is not a Male.”””

That or anyone who agrees is a male with a BIG EGO…

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by knewbetter:
<strong> TA, I actually saw the picture before you deleted it and was very surprised to see a woman who gave the impression of being a NICE person, someone I'd be friends with, you know? There was a sadness in her eyes that struck me and it makes it all the more wierd that you are painting a blonde bombshell picture of her.

A beautiful woman does not need a man to "strut" or pull PDAs (public displays of affection) to "make" men notice her, that happens all by itself, trust me. There is such a thing as trying too hard, TA.

You appear to be the type of person who is always *performing* for an audience and this is just one more example. Unfortunately in this case, you are using another human being as a prop and it not surprising that your poor wife is unhappy with you. A woman who is secure in her husband's appreciation of her in ALL areas is not going to be asking or even needing to be "shown off" to other men, sorry. Think on this. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If you read my caption that picture was taken 10 minutes before D-Day. Ten minutes later she told me the marriage was over. As I said before, her eyes looked very sad and she looked terrible. Looked like she had aged 10 years. I posted that pic because it was the worst she ever looked.

Today all that sadness in her eyes has disappeared. Today we went cross country skiing and she was in a great mood, her eyes were sparking. I would say most womens eyes look sad on D-Day.

I took that picture down because she did not give me permission to use it so I deleted it after 30 minutes. Next time I'll ask her if I can post a pic, if we ever make up. <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" />

I never said she was some Dumb Trophy Wife. She is a very nice person and has tons of friends.

I was initially attracted to my wife because of her looks, 5 minutes later I fell in love with her because of her personality. She is even more beautiful inside than outside. I realize one day she may look like her Mother. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

And to all the people who think they know me, I don't love my wife because she looks great or has a great body. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

If my wife were to gain a ton of weight, not color her hair or look beautiful to other men would mean nothing to me. Of course I would still love her. If she were a quadraplegic I would love her, in fact she knows this I have told her many times. I want her to be happy.

I simply made the point that she looks great when we go out and I like to show her off. I don't intentionally take her out "just to show her off." <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

In additon, in HSHN Dr. Harley clearly stated that men want an attractive wife and sexual fulfillment. My wife satisfys both. Does Michael Douglass not show off Catherine Zeta Jones, does Brad Pitt not show off Jennifer Anniston, and on and on and on...

Why do women spend so much $$$ on Plastic Surgery? My wife has never had anything done and never will. Why do people spend so much money on fancy clothes, jewelry, sportscars, etc... if not to look good.

Men have always showed off their female companions going back thousands of years, it will never change. The world judges people by the way they look, period. John F Kennedy won the election over Nixon "ONLY" because he looked better, period. This is fact. First impressions mean a lot. Beautiful people make more $$$, get job promotions easier, and get more in life much easier. I should know, I'm one of them. Many times I get better treatment, better pay, easier job promotions, etc... because I am handsome. I agree it's not fair and if I were an average Joe I would be ticked off at someone like me who gets lucky breaks because of their looks. This is FACT which cannot be disputed.

Has anyone here ever seen a fat or ugly Miss America? I wonder why? I'm sure some fat/ugly woman out there has a great personality, can sing of dance and wear an evening gown. How come I never see her in a contest?

Ever see a fat cheerleader, a fat homecoming queen, a fat movie star, a fat model, etc...

Why do all these women spend Billions of dollars on Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers, etc... if not to enhance their beauty? Isn't their personality enough.

Anyone here who says otherwise if full of ****. I can't tell you how many men I know quit having sex with their wife because they have gotten fat and let themselves go. Many men have PA because they want to be with an attractive woman. Who doesn't want to be seen with an attractive women?

I'm not going to apologize because my wife is beatiful and I like to show her off.


I said this before here but no one will admit it. Why is it that not one person on this site, male or female ever admit that the OW/OM was more beautiful/handsome than their spouse? Everyone always says it was the emotional aspect. How come the OP is "NEVER" as attractive as their spouse? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

<small>[ December 27, 2004, 10:29 PM: Message edited by: Justuss ]</small>

TA,

You certainly do engage in controversial issues!!

The Harley's have taken lots of heat over the "attractive spouse" EN over the years. But as I have said before, just because people don't like to hear it doesn't mean it isn't true.

Fortunately beauty is in the eye of the beholder; and honestly I don't think anyone would end up together if they didn't find themselves attracted in a physical way 1st. Then maturity takes over ideally and we can see beyond the "surfact".

Cerri, had an interesting paragraph/article on this issue recently...I'll see if I can find it. It offered an interesting perspective.

You're likely to take a beating over some of your comments on weight & good physical looks etc...don't be surprised!

All these great looking people..showing off..and still SO VERY unhappy...hmmm.

too many word already...off to help with real issues.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Why is it that not one person on this site, male or female ever admit that the OW/OM was more beautiful/handsome than their spouse? Everyone always says it was the emotional aspect. How come the OP is "NEVER" as attractive as their spouse? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Because anyone that chose to BE OW/OM...are ugly to the bone <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

<small>[ December 27, 2004, 07:26 PM: Message edited by: betrayedinjersey ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by betrayedinjersey:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> How come the OP is "NEVER" as attractive as their spouse? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Because anyone that chose to BE OW/OM...are ugly to the bone <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I can agree with that. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by betrayedinjersey:
<strong> All these great looking people..showing off..and still SO VERY unhappy...hmmm.

too many word already...off to help with real issues. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Are you saying the not so good looking people on this site are all happy? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

I saw my WW's OM. And I must admit, for a lower form of pond scum with no morals and a flare for using people he is great looking..
That is if the only part of a person you like is the outside look.

Makes life seem shallow that way dont you think. My WW is beautiful inside and out. Does not matter what she is wearing or if she just got out of bed. I love her, not for the way she looks.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by CSue:
<strong> TA,

You certainly do engage in controversial issues!!

The Harley's have taken lots of heat over the "attractive spouse" EN over the years. But as I have said before, just because people don't like to hear it doesn't mean it isn't true.

Fortunately beauty is in the eye of the beholder; and honestly I don't think anyone would end up together if they didn't find themselves attracted in a physical way 1st. Then maturity takes over ideally and we can see beyond the "surfact".

Cerri, had an interesting paragraph/article on this issue recently...I'll see if I can find it. It offered an interesting perspective.

You're likely to take a beating over some of your comments on weight & good physical looks etc...don't be surprised! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I can prove my point to everyone right now.

Open up your local newspaper to the section for Engagements/Weddings.

Notice how most Fat people are with Fat people, most beautiful people are with beautiful people, most so-so looking people are with other so-so looking people, and so on?

Rich people hang with rich people, poor people hang with poor people, etc...

Gee, am I the first one to figure this out? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Why is it that when you see an Ugly guy with a beautiful wife people always say "what the hell has he got?" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" /> He either has a Big **** or a Big Wallet. I've never once heard anyone say "he must have a nice personality." <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Ugly people with beautiful people is NOT the norm. What part don't people here understand? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" />

BTW, I don't bring up controversial issues. Other people here make my comments controversial. I'm just honest with my opinions, I don't sugarcoat like many people do.

<small>[ December 27, 2004, 07:45 PM: Message edited by: TA ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by alank:
<strong> I saw my WW's OM. And I must admit, for a lower form of pond scum with no morals and a flare for using people he is great looking..
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Thank You, at least there are two of us here that are honest. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" />

My wife told me her OM is Chubby and not near as handsome as me, boy did that tick me off. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

I'm not sure if I believe her. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />