im getting SF (sexually frustrated) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

me too, I got teased big time....

after last nights big disappointment- H says he might be home "early". I am just not so sure I want to set myself up for disappointment again- and I am not so sure he deserves to have his wife waiting for him in something sexy after he blew me off last night... any thoughts?

Sure,

Wrap yourself in wrapping paper and let your hubby know that when he's done wrapping the boys birthday presents, you know one he can unwrap <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

TB

I love that idea- evil, and twisted, yet gratifying in more ways then one!!! Would a red bow on my head with a tied on nighty double as wrapping paper?

K,

This runs counter to the MB principals. But..your situation is unique, in my view.

Have you considered cutting your H off from sex completely until there is real progress in your relationship? It's been said over and over..he manipulates you to get what HE wants, and he gives you nothing back.

You siad it yourself: does he deserve the affection of a sexy wife when he treats you the way he does?

Of course, cutting him off would cut YOU off also. And...it could push the two of you even further apart.

Still, I'm of the view that, in your situation, you need to muster up whatever power you have.

I have thought about that, however I think that would just push him into another affair, if he is not already in one.

Besides I have tried that in the past, and he would just start things when I am sound a sleep, I usually cave just so i can go back to sleep. I know that is not loving, but sometimes I am just too tired to care.

On a positive note, H came home early last night (9) and snuggled with me while we watched TV, and he shoveled the driveway today- something he knows I like- it was a nice gesture. However he still left for work mad at me because the kids started to whine as soon as I got home and he says it is my fault. Probably is, but blameing me will not change anything, give me ideas not critasism. You know?

KMEJ,

Sorry to hear that your night was a bust. You are a beautiful woman inside and out (saw your pic in the picture thread, and the way you are fighting to save your marriage is commendable) it's a shame your H doesn't appreciate you. I know if my WW were to do what you did, I would be all over her, but instead she is following the advice of her IC and that is to not have intamacy with me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> and supposedly her OM too, but I would bet that's not happening. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

Let me say this, if you ever decide to pack up those 3 tornado's, give up those purple people eaters, move to MI and root for the Honolulu Blue and Silver you look me up ya hear? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> GO LIONS! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />


sheesh, I just thought of something, my life stinks! my M is falling apart, and I am a Lions fan. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

MIF you are too hard on yourself- really!!

A day might come that I pack up my 3 tornadoes and hit the bricks, however there will never come a day that I stop cheering on the Vikings! I bleed purple!!!

Thanks you for the kind words and compliment. Your wife must be a brain dead idiot (sorry- my perception) You are here shareing your support to all that you can, I am sure it does not show even a tenth of the caring compassionate man that you really are.

A lions fan....really? Good for you, stand behind your team. I would too even if the Vikings were 0-10, I would still cheer loudly. I am not nervous for this weeks game against the Eagles, as I am proud of what they have done and they can hold their head up high no matter what the out come. I believe they are going to win, however I say that every week because I believe in them!!!! Wish I could go to the game.

KMEJ,

First, I'm glad you guys are taking on Philly, we get Atlanta. Dunno why, but I feel more confident taking on Atlanta instead of Philly.

Second, you should never have asked for the photo thread. Ok, nevermind, I should never have gone to look at the photo thread.

Let's just say your H is nuts to not want to unwrap your package and I'll close before I get smacked.

TB
Go Rams!

Thank you that is sweet- I was told that was a bad pic because I was not smileing... Had nothing to smile about that day I guess. However I do feel you should always smile, it makes people wonder what you are up too!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

As for the Viking - Philly game, we almost beat them once, and right now they are down Terrel Owens, so I think we have a shot. I have said this many times, win or lose they made me proud to be a fan this year. I will miss them greatly when the season is over. I do think we have a good chance, as long as the offense and defence show up for the game again like last week!!!

No smacking from over here, it is good to know that I am not a complete troll and that is why my H is uninterested. Just wish I knew why, and what it takes to turn a guys head- any pointers?

I don't think you'll have any trouble, other than perhaps with your ???foggy??? H.

What do guys like? Well, I don't think it's so different that what the ladies like. We wanna feel important, we don't want to be disrespected, we wanna feel special, we want to feel wanted, we want to feel like we are useful, like we matter.

We are kinda shy sometimes too, so if you want us, just make a move.

So how do I get WW's attention? She usually won't return a phone call, and my most recent communication was a note in YD's backpack stating she wanted YD's PJ's and orange socks she wore earlier.

I sent the PJ's, I couldn't find the socks. Hope she doesn't mind <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

TB

yeah woman want to feel loved, cherished and important, at least I do. I also want to feel desired.

If H is showing none of the above, do you think it is because he does not want to be here, there is someone else, or he just does not care?

It's really hard to say. From my POV, I can't imagine a man who doesn't want sex.

I don't know your story, so I can't really say. You are posting here in Infidelity, so tell me, what makes you suspicious, well besides him not wanting you?

TB

he does not like to spend time with me, does not say he loves me, spends all his time that he can with his friends, gets e-mails to his phone in the middle of the night(says it is junk mail- could be as he does not get up to check them).

I really do not think he is cheating again, but at least then I would have rejection to deal with due to him getting it elsewhere, not rejection due to the fact that I simply do not make the cut for him. That I do not turn him on. He says he finds me attractive, just that he does not have the sex drive anymore (except for OS)- however I find that hard to believe, as he is only 26.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by KMEJ:
<strong> he does not like to spend time with me, does not say he loves me, spends all his time that he can with his friends, gets e-mails to his phone in the middle of the night(says it is junk mail- could be as he does not get up to check them).

I really do not think he is cheating again, but at least then I would have rejection to deal with due to him getting it elsewhere, not rejection due to the fact that I simply do not make the cut for him. That I do not turn him on. He says he finds me attractive, just that he does not have the sex drive anymore (except for OS)- however I find that hard to believe, as he is only 26. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">So, can you check his phone? What of his phone bill?

I'm not buying that he's just not that into sex anymore. Time to put a GPS tracker on his vehicle to see where he goes with his "friends"

Oh, there is always the porn possiblity...

Sorry, these probably aren't pleasing things to ponder.

Sadly, I know my wife is a WW, yet it's not much comfort. The not knowing was much worse.

I'm stumbling here, I'm sorry, you probably are very hurt right now.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

TB

how does one put a GPS system on a car with out the others knowledge?

Yeah he is in to porn, down loads it, watches it, reads it... that is usually when he comes to me when he needs a fix. However I am sick of emotionless sex. No kissing, no carressing, no SF for me, sometime he tries, but with out the emotional connection there is no way I am going to finish, and he does not get that.

I want my marriage back from a few years ago, however I am no longer married to the same man (you know what I mean). I either need to accept what is going on and try to move forward and improve things, or I need to accept the fact things are over and try to find a way to move on.......

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by KMEJ:
<strong> how does one put a GPS system on a car with out the others knowledge?

Yeah he is in to porn, down loads it, watches it, reads it... that is usually when he comes to me when he needs a fix. However I am sick of emotionless sex. No kissing, no carressing, no SF for me, sometime he tries, but with out the emotional connection there is no way I am going to finish, and he does not get that.

I want my marriage back from a few years ago, however I am no longer married to the same man (you know what I mean). I either need to accept what is going on and try to move forward and improve things, or I need to accept the fact things are over and try to find a way to move on....... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I understand, there are GPS trackers that attach magnetically to a vehicle, but they cost $$$$

Maybe a private eye has them to track the vehicle, like you can "rent it", instead of buying one.

What makes the covert ones costly is not having a convention antenna.

http://www.thespystore.com/gps-usa.htm?wcw=google

You can get a GPS for a few hundred, but where do you hide the antenna?

TB

I do not really want to track my H. For the most part when he goes out with friends I believe him. I just can not be sure if someone else shows up. He is home during the day, and our youngest is a chatterbox so it is unlikely he would have anyone over for fear he would be ratted out- and he stopped giving our son a nap so he has no real alone time, however popping a simple movie in does the trick as well.

I will skip the GPS system- I would however like a way to "home in" on how to get him turned on to me again.....

any tricks to the trade that an ol girl like me might have forgotten?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by KMEJ:
<strong> I do not really want to track my H. For the most part when he goes out with friends I believe him. I just can not be sure if someone else shows up. He is home during the day, and our youngest is a chatterbox so it is unlikely he would have anyone over for fear he would be ratted out- and he stopped giving our son a nap so he has no real alone time, however popping a simple movie in does the trick as well.

I will skip the GPS system- I would however like a way to "home in" on how to get him turned on to me again.....

any tricks to the trade that an ol girl like me might have forgotten? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">So he's not giving you any information to go on?

How about a get away, just you and him without the kiddos?

Or the same thing at home.

What did you do before this that really got him going?

Maybe he'd like to write his own story and act it out.

Or since you said he reads it as well, why don't you write a story about you and him and let him read it. Maybe act it out.

Ahhh, this is so sneaky, ask how he would write one of the stories.

Do you know what kind of stuff he's looking at?

Or, do you not even want him, after thinking about him looking at porn? I certainly would understand that reaction.

The deal is not what I think he might want, it's what does he want. Have those wants changed since you first met? If so, how?

Personally, I believe the porn has to go before things will get better. My guess, he's withdrawn and is taking care of his own needs, and has little regard or respect for you. You already mentioned he had an A before, so that's pretty disrespectful right there.

So you can try to get his attention, but I believe the bigger issue is respect.

So what are his biggest EN's?

What LB's are you guilty of?

Yeah, he's not nice, but you want to entice him, right?

Ok, I'll be off the net for a while. The cat is starving and I'm going out to the store to get him some food. It's probably been 10 minutes since he ate, LOL.

TB