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Hi, I am Bob Pure !

My story gets referred to quite a bit on these boards, not because I am special but that my story was TYPICAL. The untypical bit was that everything happened pretty fast and I managed a close adherence to MB advice thanks to the wonderful people on these boards and some grit I never knew I had. Oh and God's intervention of course <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
With so many posts and the search facility not being so brilliant I thought I'd gather important stuff together that may help new BS.

These links are not to show up MY posts but to READ the FANTASTIC advice I received in these threads and the outcome that was achieved. I hope they give you confidence that you are not alone, that your life WILL get better SOON, and that MB applied properly CAN help get your baby back.

God bless you in your efforts to recover your marriage.

Firstly an introduction, who the heck am I ?

So who is Bob Pure?

My dear wife of 18 years ,Squid, had an affair that I found out about on d-day July 22 2004. I wasn't in good shape then , maybe just like you now <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> :
How did I feel on D-day ?

I was blessed by finding Marriagebuilders only three days after d-day. My early posts show my state of mind and heart. My dear Squid had been kidnapped by aliens and replaced with a snarling, spitting thing that made no sense,and hated me, our kids, friends, relatives...everyone but OM. The fog was thick and I had no idea what to do: Look at my desperation and misery BUT ALSO at the WONDERFUL advice and care this stranger got from MBers ! You are NOT alone on MB ! There are Angels here !

And they were not talking only to me but to every desperate Betrayed Spouse that ever reads this !

Note how generous in support are the FWS on this site. Do NOT be mean to them because infidelity hurt you. It hurt them too. You will NEED their insights. I learned from them how my Squid was feeling when she couldn't tell me herself. Their insight and support was central to our recovery.


See my early posts show hopelessness BUT see the uplifting advice from MBers, old and new alike !

First hopeless mess thread

I was soon pointed at a FANTASTIC resource on this board - WorthATry's Quickstart for new Betrayed Spouses. This thread has saved more than one life I am sure.

New BS READ THIS and digest it. THIS and prayer are all you need for a while.
WATs WONDERFUL guide to new betrayed spouses

It made me read every word on the site which made me buy "surviving an affair" by Willard Harley. I soon began to implement 'Plan A'.

Plan A advice from experts

Plan A is as much an exercise in hope and fear control as it is in stopping the affair. It has a massive secondary benefit of delivering self-control and self-determination to the BS too !

BS can get impatient with plan A, when really exposure is needed.

Experts stop my impatience with plan A

Here is a wonderful reasource again from friend WorthATry describing the process and benefits of exposing the affair to the OPs spouse and others.


WATs guide to affair exposure 101

Exposure was the most effective and satisfying tool against the affair that I used ! Melody Lane , Pepperband,K and WAT almost BULLIED me into doing this when I was weak and felt like exposing would drive my wife away from me into the arms of her lover.

Wierd affair dynamics with WS
You can expect nastiness from your WS BUT exposure is important for all parties affected. And tell me the thought of OP dodging crockery for a day or two doesn't make you smile <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

WS and OP don't like exposure much ! Hyuk hyuk !

Fog from WS after exposure....

Remember that you are not the only innocent hurt party in the affair.
Doesn't OPs spouse ( if there is one) deserve to know what they're married to ? In my case sending proof of PA to OM's GF was the catalyst that sent OM into therapy and their relationship on the road to recovery. NEVER feel that exposing is immoral JUST BECAUSE it feels good. OM GF has thanked me for my BRAVERY in exposing to her and helping start their R recovery.

OM GF begs for proof of affair

SO...if starting plan A and exposing gets your baby back home with you (as I was blessed to find) you have work ahead of you, dear BS. Recovery is like climbing out of a long tunnel only to see miles of desert in every direction. You need a compass, not a map any longer.

You may be tempted and think " is it worth it?"

Is it all worth it? Temptation of BS in Plan A

Your FWS will probably suffer withdrawal fom their feelings of addiction to the affair and OP. You must support them through this, even though it hurts you so badly.

Suzet's wonderful guide to withdrawal

You think " I don't want this betrayer back"

Don't particularly want her back

You will wonder if your FWS will ever love you again...
Will she love me again? Am I second choice?

You may find you are tempted to settle for the easy way, and cease recovery as soon as your WS is back in your arms BUT DO NOT ! Strive for a GREAT marriage for both of you !
Do not give in too easily through loneliness

You may feel you can never be part of a couple again :
Each of us is alone in this life

After a while, MB concepts like POJA and PORH become part of your vocabulary with your FWS
POJA even important stuff like contact with OMW

And you find yourself after WS withdrawal in recovery. In Plan A or plan B you had only one objective - stop the affair. Recovery is just as hard, but less easily targetted.

You may feel that although life is imporving your WS is not as contrite as you would hope for or expect, they may be affected by one of the many complex emotions suffered by FWS.

You may not see it now,but affairs are hard on them too. There are no easy lives after an affair.

Get inside a FWS head

As a FBS, you will find everything against your instinct that is successful. Amongst the hardest things I did was forgive my Squid. But I got back more than I could have dreamed.

Discussion on total forgiveness

And you may find yourself taking more blame than you deserve for the poor M which may have led to your WS affair

Isit all my fault ?

If you have scanned through for some of these I hope you may have seen parallels with your own seemingly hopeless sitiation.

Well, I am here to tell you that you CAN get your baby back and be happier than ever. My Squid loves me again and is working on our marriage in a loving and mostly fun environment.

Take heart, new BS. Your heart CAN be mended. Follow the advice of the wise folks on this board.

Be brave. May God bless your noble fight.


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bobpure..

you should know that your admiration around here is well earned...

no matter your perception of what chaos you felt...

you my friend did take the hard steady Marriage building stand...
pretty much hook line and sinker...

it was amazing and still amazes some of us so called "vets"....as you pretty much hit head on a wife who was very very involved..

she was so entwined both with the OP as well as the hobby/life of the sport emeshed with the OP...

you put your head down and forged forward...much to my amazement as well as I am sure it's OK in this case to speak for, others....

we are as amazed by your recovery as you are...
because it is rare for someone to adhere as you did...we can tell them to all the time...but telling and doing are two seperate things in such difficult emotional times...
but you did it..
YOU did it
and it worked...

YOU did this...
though we may have guessed you were worth the fight.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
it is your wife who really gained and grew in the end...
I love that you two are doing well
I love that you don't back down and listen to foo-foo poppy-**** about not meeting her needs and how 'great" he who shall not be named....was

I'd love some day for your wife to post here...

and for those reasons bob..you are kind of special...and hopefully you can stick around a while and help out those that really do need you..

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Ark^^

You made a big Englishman cry. <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" />

Whatever path my life takes now I will never forget the passionate care of you and the vets for this broken stranger.

And I will ever offer prayers of thanks for you all. Instruments of Gods peace in a godless world.

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Very, very cool, Bob <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> ...it means a lot because I know how much time it probably took to do this post, and I am confident you will help a LOT of people with your experiences.
I love that a person can share like this!

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Hey Bob - Great thread... sure wish I'd had something like this when I was deep in my own personal H3LL... You are truely an inspiration to us all! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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I think this needs a bump! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

*****hey Bob, hope you're well today******

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Great post, BP. I have already cut and pasted in an e-mail to some neighbors of my friends just recently hit with infidelity.

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[color:"mediumblue"]Bob, what a remarkable thread.

Your message is going to help more people than you can ever imagine...People that perhaps just found this board and are struggling where to go and what to do...People that are hurting and wanting help and understanding, yet thinking they will always feel this deep painful despair.

They will know at a glance to click on to this thread.

You have shown, with hard marriage saving work, that there IS LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
You are quite a guy, a GOOD guy.

Sincerely, Julie <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />[/color]

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There is a light! Today is my year anniversary of d-day and we are doing great! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

It is possible!!!


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First D-Day: 3/7/04
Second D-Day with total truth: 4/13/04
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In recovery and doing wonderful!
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bOb Pure, as my students would say, you ROCK!


Me 40, STBXWH 43 Married 16 years D-day 01/25/05 Son 14, Daughter 10 Divorce almost final - I hope!
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bOb Pure,

Thank you! I was just bawling my eyes out from the latest tongue-lashing about why it's my fault I'm alone now. Reading your post and Toolkit made me stop crying and smile again at the goodness of people.

Absolutely you rock!
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Sally even if you'd beaten your WH with a stick every day since your wedding, his affair is not yoru fault. If you had an unsatisfying M or relationship, then you may or may not have contributed to that BUT having an affar was 100% voluntary by your WH.

You MUST detach yourself from blame.

Next, you must realise that your WH has his head up an aliens butt right now. He is largely incapable of rational thought or speech such is his addiction. Again you must detach and work on Plan A until the fog gets to breathable levels.

Detach yourself from the chaos. Smile and be good to yourself. You're going to need this as you win back your marriage.

all blessings.


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This is excellent......Bump to the top.

Thanks bOb


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You are very good and kind. So as not to mislead - We were engaged many years but not married. In the last (almost) two weeks so I got a little background: WSO/OW phonecalls go back as far as our stalled wedding.

And to this I say, "Of course they do. Stupid Sally."

Wso wasn't the lasher in previous post. My Gram called to list all my short-comings as a woman and mate. She was trying to help. I know that. And she doesn't know about A. She meant well but it took a toll.

I promise you that I KNOW WSO is doing all of his own decision-making. He's doing all of his own lying. I am taking responsibility for my contribution to our relationship problems yes, but not that stink-O A, NO WAY!

My hope is in the toilet and I don't function well that way. Forgive the apparent contradiction, but because I love him, I am glad he isn't so unhappy anymore. My heart ached to see him so miserable.

And because I always believed he loved me, I am horribly sad that he really didn't love me, that he said he stopped feeling anything for me after our first two years together?? what about the last 5 and a half years then? that would mean he stopped loving me before he proposed to me??? it's sickening.

So after all of that time with me, he is in love with OW and planning his future with her. He wants me to start dating and "moving on". UGH. I can't even imagine what OW H must be going through. He knows, but seems still to not believe.

It's probably not the first time for WSO either right? OF course, I suppose there is always a first time. I need to go back to OBGYN and have many tests... I am a nut to keep considering plan A any more...

EEEK!!! I'm thread-jacking!!! I'll retreat. I should start a plan A thread or rollercoaster thread or primal scream thread... Aghhh! :-) And there it is again - that blasted smile! I should have been a flight attendant.

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Mr Bob,

Excellent post. Most excellent. Keep up the good work. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Have a nice weekend!

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As close to a "one size fits all" resource that can possibly exist.

Bump.

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